PHP

No startups are choosing it so it will eventually be a language u need to know to work on a legacy codebase.

It won’t die though cause there will be a lot of those.

Javascript of all languages...

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shm desu

cuck

Real question who the hell is using python in a real backend production evironment?

Other than for teaching and ML I can't see what python offers.

ad hoc garbage is great for wimmin in tech and future basedboy js electron devs

hope some genius brings native performance to python

making website using pure php is actually dead its framewoks like laravel,yii,codeigniter is keeping it alive.

not to mention making wordpress addons is still profitable sideline

google uses python a lot

I've only used python for rinky dink scrim scrum things people aren't meant to actually see like tedious json manipulation

I wouldn't use PHP for a webdev project, but it's underrated for use as general templating/preprocessing/codegen.

I recently used it to generate some boilerplate x86_64 assembly. The target was a .S file (GAS+C preprocessor), so mixing PHPisms, Cisms, and asm in the same file does make it a bit hard to read/maintain. But it got the job done really well. I'm not sure which better options are available, really.

Google for one.

Google only really uses 3 languages. Java, C++, and Python

PHP's syntax is reason enough to not use it. I don't care what meme features they added in the latest version.

Why would you think Python couldn't be used in a backend environment? Because it's interpreted? There are numerous websites implemented using Django with hundreds of thousands of daily users and they run fine.

Javascript is the most expressive language of the main six, so it would make sense to choose it when you are dealing with a rapidly evolving environment such as the web.

This.
It's worth knowing it to be able to work on maintaining old systems when there's high demand for it because all the new guys are not learning it anymore, and migrating is just way too costly for any system that's of a considerable size

>implying j*vascript has a much better syntax

What is go

Guess who's back

source ?
can you mention some of the bad syntax you see in php ? i really doubt you ever wrote or saw decent php code, also >i woudln't use PHP for a webdev project
reasons ?
>laravel,yii,codeigniter
>not mentioning symfony, zend which are the only 2 framework that don't depend on other code while other frameworks depend on them
you can actually use pure php , using symfony , zend and the league components with a templating engine like twig and database abstract layer like doctrine DBAL , you can create your own framework.
i agree on that
actually, wordpress is dying as we speak.
with the release of PHP 8 in 2020, wordpress won't have a choice, either update their code base to support PHP 8 and drop support for PHP < 7.0 or keep support for old version without support PHP 8

what's more lucrative at the moment being a node.js+react developer or php/symfony+twig/react

Laughable.

i don't actually use symfony as a framework, i only use few components, with doctrine and twig on top of zend expressive + PHP Swoole and VueJS on the front-end

but i would say symfony+twig, nodejs and react are being used by hipsters all over, its easier to find a job, but symfony+twig are more lucrative since big companies use these two ( including BlaBlaCar, DocPlanner. Spotify and YouPorn ) also, a lot of other php projects depend on symfony ( including laravel ) symfony.com/projects

This is bait, right?

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At least use Typescript guys, I implore you.

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>Google
>Ebay
>PayPal
>OpenStack
>Quite a few banks

There's probably more, but they're the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Since it says question views, my guess is that its the fall/spring semesters, and people looking for homework answers.

Was gonna use an off-the-shelf framework but now I’m gonna go create my own from scratch. Thanks for the advice. Upvoted

why are there such reliable spikes in Java throughout the years? how on earth is Java programming seasonal?

>everything on the web is made in php
>durr is php dying
Sage.

its not actually from scratch if you use symfony, league, zend and other vendors components - they provide everything

It's the language taught in high school computer science classes. They probably mature after entering college/work/etc.

Forgot to mention US high school computer science classes.

I thought Java was in overall decline?

>we live in a world where python is thriving and lisp is dying

t. someone who has never had to write docs for their monstrosity

>We live in a world that values productivity
Why are you so surprised by that?

that's hilarious