/dpt/ - Daily Programming Thread

Why do people code like this?
if ( )
{
...
}

As opposed to this, which looks more aesthetically pleasing:
if ( ) {
...
}

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also hate the former

more readable (makes it easier to see what code is in which block)
better for diffs (makes patching easier and more legible, makes history more legible)

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I like the former. It's more readable, and is more aesthetically pleasing. Looks cleaner overall.

Also, that's C#. You'd be going against the standard.

plain old C

>C
Why the fuck are you capitalizing your variables and using camel case? It's god awful.

probably a C# pajeet

Anal idol edition

Actually, that's called PascalCase. camelCase does not begin with a capital letter.

I don't understand one thing about fork().
If I make an array of pids and loop fork() lets say 5 times do I create 5 children and 5 parents or there is always only one parent and is the main program?

>he needs a fucking book to use his basic tools
freedomlets, when will they learn

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You're not tied to 1 compiler.
bellard.org/tcc/

man fork

also i think you need to watch those file descriptors. been a while since i fucked with that.

>create project
>write shit
>click green button
>everything just werks (tm)
>if I want to change options, I have a nice gui for it
fucking magic, I'm telling you

BASED GCC

>codemonkeys

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I
FUCKING
LOVE
BOILERPLATE
HGNGNGNNGGGG

My gf!

because they're retarded

there's literally no other answer, the first option is objectively worse in every way

>he fell for the test driven development meme

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The fork() function creates a process that is a copy of the process calling it. It returns a value of 0 in the child process, or the pid of the child in the parent process. In either case, since both processes are copies of one another, they will both continue on from executing the same code, with the only difference being what was returned from the function call. It is typically expected that immediately after fork() is called, the return value is checked so that the parent and child can execute along different paths.

If you are calling fork() in a loop and storing the child pids in an array, so long as the child does not create processes of its own, you should have one parent with 5 children.

Please read some more documentation about fork() before doing any serious fucking around with it. There's some gotchas about how it works.

Really, you should be fine with just
gcc --help

for most use cases.

S-SEMPAAAI
Drop some knowledge on me please.
How do I into graphics programming?
No, I don't mean gaming, I mean serious stuff like DRI, libdrm, vulkan, wayland compositing, XCB etc

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>another loonix tard
not gonna make it

Fuck off, micronigger.

See you in 5 years when you'll get that pretty triangle up on the screen.

>DRI, libdrm, vulkan, wayland compositing, XCB etc
>"serious"

L

M

A

O

Write a graphics driver instead.

>anime op
excellent

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>franxx
not excellent

In 1979, when I was working at IBM, I wrote an internal memo lambasting the Apple Lisa, which was Apple`s first attempt to adapt Xerox PARC technology, the graphical user interface, into a desktop PC. I was then working on the development of APL2, a nested array, algorithmic, symbolic language, and I was committed to the idea that what we were doing with computers was making languages that were better than natural languages for procedural thought. The idea was to do for whole ranges of human thinking what mathematics has been doing for thousands of years in the quantitative arrangement of knowledge, and to help people think in more precise and clear ways. What I saw in the Xerox PARC technology was the caveman interface, you point and you grunt. A massive winding down, regressing away from language, in order to address the technological nervousness of the user. Users wanted to be infantilized, to return to a pre-linguistic condition in the using of computers, and the Xerox PARC technology`s primary advantage was that it allowed users to address computers in a pre-linguistic way. This was to my mind a terribly socially retrograde thing to do, and I have not changed my mind about that. I lost that war in the early 1980s, went to law school, got a history PHD, did other things, because the fundamental turn in the technology - which we see represented in its most technologically degenerate form, which is Windows, the really crippled version. I mean, I use Xwindows every day on my free-software PCs; I have nothing against a windowing environment, but it`s a windowing environment which is network transparent and which is based around the fact that inside every window there`s some dialogue to have with some linguistic entity.

cabinetmagazine.org/issues/1/i_moglen_1.php

you again, how goes it?

COPE.

>In 1979, when I was working at IBM,
Boomer, I...
wtf are you doing in Jow Forums?

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What are some interesting AI research papers?

I'm working on creating an agent that imagines possibilities for features and remembers those possibilities for doing problem solving and planning. Eventually I want to create a metaphorical memory that uses remembered features in terms of what it already knows by using the related memories that describe it to predict new results rather than blindly training to find weights that do not generalize to new problems.

Some of the better papers I've read so far:
Unsupervised Predictive Memory in a Goal-Directed Agent
arxiv.org/abs/1803.10760
The Kanerva Machine: A Generative Distributed Memory
arxiv.org/abs/1804.01756
World Models
arxiv.org/abs/1803.10122

that's the spergiest thing I've read in quite a while

>writing graphics drivers when vulkan exists
>reinventing wheels

Not a paper, but,

I thought you said you wanted something serious, not baby tier.

If I was Moglen, I imagine I'd be trying to save the world from it's own stupidity. Develop some taste, most of the good stuff in computing is pre 1990.

The guy is pretty weird. I like some of his ideas though, especially as it pertains to language and user interfaces.

Mean to reply to

thanks

n-nani
Will AI unleash the era of unlimited pornography?

What areas of programming are on the rise? What will the market need specialists in in the next 5 to 10 year?

>What areas of programming are on the rise?
Social justice
>What will the market need specialists in in the next 5 to 10 year?
Masters in gender studies

Also forgot: MUCH larger CPU bit widths to efficiently handle genders.

had me until that last bit

the only reason I got into CS was so I'd eventually get into this AI shit and churn out fakes of every girl on facebook I've met from middle school to grad school

haha xd

You laugh now but you won't be laughing later.

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Yeah X is FUBAR.

Trying to make a new linux syscall
It's a bit hard when you don't know the ins and outs of the kernel yet

Is machine learning fun? I've got a chance to do some work automating the interpretation of scientific data using neural networks in TensorFlow. I haven't done any ML stuff before. My worry is that it will just be feeding data and tuning parameters and it would take me away from my usual development work, which is standard stuff but I enjoy it.

That's a tiny-ass edition

Skinny butts are cute butts

Rewriting my game engine because I thought a single module would be a good idea.

from my limited experience you end up spending a lot of time tuning and tweaking and less time developing.

Its still kinda fun tho, something I'd like to do more of myself

Implying the workflow doesn't consist mostly of procrastination and planning.

i want to nakadashi iori

It's the year of the asslets, bucko

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Thanks for the input. I think I'll go ahead and do it because I can go always go back to developing when it's done.

it looks better when the braces are aligned with each other t b h

I'm the wrong person to ask for that, seeing as I haven't messed around there much.

Sleepy. Research is slow and changes direction every few weeks. But I've managed one year of my PhD without dropping out from the stress or getting any grades less than an A-, so that's nice.

Google "FakeApp"

>first link
>"how to install fakeapp" is preceded by "the ethics of fakeapp"
fucking normans I swear

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Latter should look like this:
if ( ) {
...
}

Not like this:
if ( ) {
...
}

Don't add an extra space in front of the if statement. That's retarded.

Google search results are curated with a bias. Nonetheless, the point to be made was that the thing user went into CS for already exists. Although one should be careful of which version one uses, as apparently a later version contains a crypto miner.

girls can't program

keep at it, I find cal newport's strategies to be useful for school-type workload

>as apparently a later version contains a crypto miner
I'm starting to enjoy this proprietary dystopia.

Because

if ()
{
if()
{
if()
{

}
}
}

is better than
if(){
if(){
if(){

}
}
}

if (a && b && c) {
...
}
Retard

what in the utter fuck?

Fuzzy logic

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IDEs are shit

if (...) {
if (...) {
if (...) {
...
}
...
}
...
}

wouldn't be equivalent, was probably an oversimplified example.

probably a typo

You are shit

IT'S GOTTA BE
MOTHER
FUCKING
HORSTMANN!!!!!

if (...)
{ ...
...
if (...)
{ ...
...
}
}
YEAH BABY

if a && b && c {
// every thing else is plain retarded
}

Shuddup gopher

It's not Go only.

Pattern matching

Shuddup SJW

if the braces are mandatory it's more retarded

desu you don't need any special syntax all you really need is a function if : forall a. bool -> a -> a -> a

COPE

explen
what lang

>not bool = forall a. a -> a -> a

that's also a good choice

a if(bool condition, a ifTrue, a ifFalse);
if : (bool, a, a) -> a
if : forall a. (bool, a, a) -> a
if : bool -> a -> a -> a

Seems like you haven't done anything difficult in VS, don't you. You need all the same compiler and linker switches. Even more so if you have some sort of custom build or CI.

>if I want to change options, I have a nice gui for it
Learn to read, you imbecile

There could be code in betwee my man