/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed) (embed) (embed)

CPU
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>i5 8400/i5 8600k - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>R7 2700(X)/8700k - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>wait for RTX 2000, great performance per $ than current GPUs.
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.
OpenCL work
>Vega 64

Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS)
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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Repostan my budget build

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£128.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£91.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£161.65 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.74 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£96.22 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £603.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Any reccs for a good cheap mouse and keyboard? Also do I need a WiFi card?

>CPUs with security flaws
Nice shill thread faggot

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32" is too big for me mang. I've only bought my 1st 24" monitor 6 months ago. Before that I used shitty 17" and 15" TN laptop screens. Besides, a 27" monitor is perfect for my sitting distance and I can pair it with my current 24" without adjusting scaling or videogame FoV too much.

So I'm looking at 1440p/144hz ips monitors. I think I've found what I'm looking for but it's boiled down to these two: Pixio px277 and pixio px277h. Anyone have any thoughts about these two? How important/good is HDR? The h model has 600 nits. I'd prefer the looks of the non-h, but again I don't know how big of a difference the HDR makes.

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Well then you gotta pay up goy

>hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution

Basically don't expect any pre-launch benchmarks to be legit. Nvidia is now controlling who the AIBs send their cards out to and what they can and cannot say during said review. For 5 years.

WELL I BETTER PAY UP DAQUAN TO HAVE IT "REPOSESSED". HOW ABOUT THAT YOU GREEDY FUCK

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Better get it from your local Piotr who stole it from your neighbour. You need to get it fast before he comes back to poland tho.

Is $178USD a good deal for a 32" 1080p 144hz monitor? At the moment I can only really use it when playing Quake Live or CSGO but I really want to upgrade my current main monitor, a 21" 60hz 1080p screen with a fuckton of light bleed and only one DVI input.

Its a good build with upgrade path.
You need a WiFi card if your gonna use WiFi but using Ethernet is better.
Also any cheap mouse and keyboard will do. They're all the same. I buy genius. Its budget quality. Only autists care about superficial specs and design

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What do you think?

What's a good voltage to get 4Ghz on a Ryzen 7 1700? I got a beefy ass cooler, but whenever I try to do 4ghz at 1.4Volts it crashes. Should I go higher than that? I don't think that's a good idea, even though the temps are low.

Why do we need ray tracing Quadros? Who uses them?

not all ryzens will reach 4ghz and no you shouldn't go above 1.4 even with good temps.

Should I just settle for 3.9? I think I have a bad chip, because using the stock settings XFR it would crash at stock voltages and I had to manually raise the voltage to get stock clocks not to crash.

I can't fathom having such a poor chip, what motherboard?
I can hit 3.8 with a 1600 on the stock voltage.

Yeah sounds like a poor chip sadly you lost the lottery, some people win like this fagand some lose.

I'm upgrading to a 360mm 'AIO' in a few days. What sort of load temps should I expect from a 2600x when using shit like Prime95? Or is there a better program to use nowadays?

RTX will most likely be overpriced, and buying used 1000 series or Vega on sale will make more sense for the next year. That is unless you plan to play RTX titles exclusively.

Asus B350-F.

Yeah sadly I've already had it for over a year and I won't return it now. Since I overclocked from day 1 I didn't notice how bad it was at stock settings.
I'm waiting for the 3700X to come out to get one.
So far I'm doing 3.85Ghz at 1.35V

What's a good WiFi card that will work with my build?

Cool, i get to build a $15k watercooled pc tomorrow... I feel bad for the client though, getting 1080tis insteaf of waiting a few months

>parking with my 21" quite comfortably. Feel absolutely no need to get a bigger screen.
Though I've got my 55'' 4k TV that I connect to my PC. Its got 5ms lag with 60hz everything but 4k which is 30hz. Regardless its pretty sweet and only cost me $400

Still managed decent results I think.

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Use Prime95 v266 or PowerMAX.

is a 1080 for 460 dollars worth it??

Which GPU should I choose?
Asus GTX 1070 Dual OC
or
Palit GTX 1070 Dual
only these two since I'm buying used. The palit one is ~8% more expensive. I'd like less noise and a passive mode, but I don't know if either of these has it.

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Is there anywhere in the US I can get a 1080ti for under $700? Should I wait till next year when people are going to realize that the 2080 is not worth it and shit xD

that's the price of 1060 over here, buy two send me one and I'll send you back $500

>XD
leave

>being this edgy
yikes

>Should I wait till next year when people are going to realize that the 2080 is not worth it and shit xD
You realize by that point stock my actually be sold out right? They aren't making any more 10 series cards. This is all old inventory.

Any idea what my average temps should look like? Install guide for the block looks pretty simple, but I won't know if I fucked something up with the paste or something if idle/load temps are slightly higher than they should be.

u got beaned

Leave

yikes do you think you fit in already with the hardcore Jow Forums crowd. You posted on discord how you pwned some anons?

I know theyll discontinue production since theyre moving on to Gaytracing but I sooner or later the GPU would drop unless demands hits harder within the next few months which woould suck ass

>brainlet alert

So I got 3000mhz RAM to with my Z370 and Coffee Lake. Do I need to do anything to get it to actually run at that speed? And what? Some XMP stuff, right? Even a link is fine, cause I don't know what to search for.
Thanks in advance

go to bios click ram set 3000mhz thats all

Leave

It's that easy? Thanks. I remember seeing a video where this was mentioned briefly and I feel like there was more to it than that but I'll take your word for it since I don't remember myself

pcpartpicker says my build needs 352 Watts to run, is this good enough? Keep in mind I do not intend to overclock anything at all.

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nah it's literally that easy. If you want to be cheeky cunt you can try 3200 even but that might require some tinkering.

Other user is right.
Leave.

Oh right, I forgot I got 3200 and not 3000, my bad. It was a last minute switch and I've forgotten about it. I think I'll drop the cheeky cuntness for now, I'll tinker with proper overclocking once I feel like it'd actually raise performace considerably

Should be more than enough, obviously.
May want to consider a 650 if you can afford it. Just to have more upgradeability for the future.

Yeah I thought so, but have been doing lots of DD since it will be my first time building, and I have read a lot about not being cheap with the PSU and I was not sure if this would be sufficient.

Not being cheap is more about not buying a cheap garbage PSU than getting one with high wattage. Yours is fully modular and has Gold sertification so it's not cheap or bad for the wattage you are getting.

Alright thanks

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Is there anything wrong with continuing to use windows 7? Never upgraded to 10 cuz botnet

Please help

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>1500x
2600 is $15 more on Amazon. It's much better.
>slow ram
Get 3000mhz or higher. Or at least 2800 and manually OC it yourself.
I don't know much about the ultra low end motherboards so I can't say. I would say don't get anything under a B450 (for 2nd gen) if you plan on using it for awhile and want it to be mildly decent..

$1600 budget
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Should I get a vega 56 with a mb279qr144 or 1080 ti with a s2417dg? Aside from >csgo I'm going to be playing r6s, pubg, mhw, ark, and ffxiv. I could wait for labor day sales to try get a xb271hu or equivalent, but I'm worried that they won't drop in price enough and I'll have missed out on a $330 s2417dg, even though that could go on sale again. Should I just buy the s2417dg now, don't open it, and then return it if a better monitor shows up in a week or if I end up getting a cheap vega 56? I have to wait for sales to get the 1080 ti either way.

>tn panel

its like you want to be colorblind

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I need to build a PC to run my new Cintiq 24 Pro (4k 60hz; will likely buy a faster second monitor later), using it for creative shit like drawing, photoshop, video editing, etc. - gaming is a plus. I'm going for a small form factor, to make as much room for the tablet as possible. My budget's around $900 but I'd be willing to go a couple hundred more if it means better long-term investments.

I'm still working on the parts list, but what graphics card should I go with? I'm planning to invest more into fast processing and RAM than game graphics since I'll be working in 4k, but I'm not willing to shell out for 4k gaming. Would the gtx 1060 work for me?

thanks man

pcpartpicker.com/list/NZsFmq
This is the updated version although there seems to be a compatibility issue, any solution?
I am new to building computers, I apologize in advance for any frustration my stupidity may cause.

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It's a decent price but 32" and 1080p would most likely look awful.

I've seen this 240 Hz monitor go on sale for 180 GBP quite frequently:
UM.HX1EE.B01

Copy this
And add a rx480 (or don't if you're poor)

96jiggabytes of ram?
what possible applications does this have?

A 350 board will work, but you'll need a 1000 series CPU to update the BIOS to work with a 2000 series CPU. You can either get that done at a local repair shop/Microcenter or get a boot kit from AMD. 450s work right out the box.
>Some AMD B350 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Pinnacle Ridge CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

are new chips more voltage sensitive? i run my i2500k with 1.42v since day 1 release with no issue.

Could you please give me a name of a compatible board since the repair shops around me are not the most reputable ones.

Any b450 or X470 boards will work out the box. B350/X370 are previous gen (1000 series) boards.

>its like you want to be colorblind

what did he mean by this?

96 GAJIGGANIGGARAYS BUY BUY BUY THE NEW RTX 2080TI!!!

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I appreciate it, thanks a lot pal.

>buy a motherboard through Amazon.com
>find out amazon is ordering it through TechnologyGalaxy
>already shipped

H-How fucked am I?

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Well its not fed ex so you got that going.

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This is my updated setup, any other recommendations?
Thanks.

My chassis fan is detected and works when I'm in the BIOS

But it's not detected and doesn't work when I'm in windows

What?

Do you install any of the 6 million programs that come with a motherboard (drivers, power management, fan management, rgb management, intel management, sata management, lighting management, update management, management management etc.)?

Been like a month of looking around and decided that the best value for what i want is

I5 8400
Z370
16gb 3200mhz ram
1070ti
1440p 144hz TN G-sync

Only thing im not sure about is spending 100€ more for Gsync. Does anyone have any experience on that?

>Gsync
waste of money it's completely useless

If you can get a 240GB boot SSD for ~$40.

8350k with an overclock is a better gaming cpu than the 8400

Can anyone recommend me a Z370 board that isn't overpriced?

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Note taken

extreme4

>2018
>4 core 4 threads
Nope

Nah it's only 4c/4t which is already obsolete. 6c/6t is the sweet spot and 12 threads is too much for gayming imo

and everyone knows gtaV loves those cores

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so uhh what do you think about this build

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor
GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 4GB
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-A
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz (2x4GB)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
Power Supply: Deepcool DA500 80+ Bronze
Case: Deepcool DUKASE V3
Wireless Adapter: TP-LINK TL-WN881ND

i'm a complete brainlet and never built a pc before, i just want to know if it should work good and without problems. wont do much outside vidya, photoshop, multi-tabbing and some work/desktop stuff.
also Win7 or 8?

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Pls respond

If I'm going with an AMD cpu and 32gb RAM, is it worth $37 to go from 2133 mhz to 3000 mhz?

I have a lian li pc65 case, and recently got a blower style gpu (rx470). This picture shows how my fans are positioned. All are 1800rpm fans except for the top fan which is 1200rpm, and the psu fan of course. My question is, since I am putting this blower gpu in, which pushes air out of the gpu itself rather than just dispersing heat and letting the rear case fans take care of it, would it help to flip the top case fan to an intake? In that case the top fan would better feed the cpu and exhaust out the back, while the bottom fans would be able to get more air to the blower gpu fan.

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Is 270€ a good price to pay for this? They both cost a bit more when bought separately. Will be using the GPU for 1080p vidya and the SSD for smut. The 1060 is bad at cooling and runs relatively loud. I only have a 1050 ti at the moment.

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Get 2600x and a better PSU
Maybe 16gb ram but you don't need it really
Looks pretty decent

depends on your airflow and cooler and how many processes are running. If you're running a top-notch cooler with plenty of air and minimal programs then it should idle around 25-27c, up to 35c if you're using a small cooler with a constrictive system. Temps should rise to around 70-75c to 85c. If it's higher than that you should install a better cooler or lower the voltage, or you might have a fan that isn't spinning.

It's fine if it's a 6GB card, the SSD is shitty though.

It's a Swiftech H360 X3 so outside of a custom loop I don't think it could get much better. I had peak temps on my 280mm around 77c, but since I plan on adding a GPU to the loop (and the fact that it's 3 years old) I wanted to upgrade. Case is a Define S so airflow shouldn't be a problem. Sounds like my temps were about average already. Thanks.

and 8350k is literally more expensive than 8400 lol. It's shit buy.

>better is more expensive
>surprise = zero

I have a RX550. Is a 1060 6gb worth it for 220€ or should I wait for the 2060 hoping nvidia won't screw us?

I won't be running anything important off of the SSD and the 1060 is just a placeholder until I buy a 1070. Should I still go for it?

>2600x
opinion discarded

is there too much difference between 2600 and 2600x? i'd like to save some bucks if the difference isnt too noticeable
also what do you mean with a better PCU? more than 500W, better than bronze 80+ or just a better brand?

So? It's one game, and who knows if that user even plays it.
4c/8t is acceptable, but no one should be buying 4c/4t at this point.

I got a new computer for work today. The hard drives are entirely empty because I intended to install my own OS to them.

Unfortunately I cannot seem to get anything to show on the display.

The motherboard is an AS Rock X299 Killer SLI/ac.
The monitor takes an HDMI connection and is an Asus VE247H monitor.
The CPU is an Intel Core i7-7820X skylake.

Pic related is the ports available to me. I am currently connecting the USB C port through an HDMI-USB C connector to the screen. The screen simply says "no VGA signal" before fading to black. The motherboard is definitely receiving power since I can see the LED's flashing and the fans turning.

How do I fix this?

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