Lol, sure. Just AT&T/Bell and IBM and whatnot. Intel will eventually become a shadow of its former self and make cheap little industrial controller boards with ARM chips. Just watch.
Ryder Fisher
>Intel will eventually become a shadow of it's former self Where have you been for the last two years?
Nathan Lewis
>>Temperatures don't matter! >>Heat doesn't matter! Kind of redundant user
Jonathan Watson
>two
Evan Peterson
How many proxies are you going to lose tonight?
Eli Smith
...what?
Cameron Thompson
>Implying Intel didn't peak at Core2Duo and Sandybridge >Implying it hasn't all been downhill from there
Intel till late this year early next year has a process advantage, so... final hurrah
if you want to talk about intel peaking, pentium pro became pentium 3, became core 2, with pattents they acquired they got ht to work so nehelium, then the last process update brought us sandybridge, and from here, they had no where to update so they went hard on fpu.
Cannot fucking wait for today's stock market closure hours. Massive drops of TOXIC Inturd actives inbound.
David Nguyen
> 22+>1 INTEL WINS AGAIN! AAAAAAAH
Oliver Martin
The big turning point will be when the enterprise switches their servers to AMD EPYC. Before that consumer CPUs don't matter, they make too small percentage of the income intel gets.
>The big turning point will be when the enterprise switches their servers to AMD EPYC. They already did. All businesses who have at least a sliver of self-respect and dignity left, are trashing Xeon garbage en masse right now, running away like rats from a sinking ship, to Zen. Regardless if small/home (these tend to use THREADRIPPER), medium sized, or large scale corporations/conglomerates. A daily reminder 7nm EPYC 2 is already coming out at the end of THIS year. AMD's share in enterprise and server will be at least 25% by summer of next year, and by late 2020 they'll have over 60%.
Adam Bennett
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Xavier Green
They aren't finished though. Intel can recover this if they have something up their sleeve. Remember P4? That was a fucking disaster; they had to scramble to recover and eventually released Core2Duo, as AMD already had a dual core out. Still, they did manage to recover. We'll see where they go from here.
They aren't finished, but they are wounded. If nothing else, they'll be relegated to mobile chips/laptops for a while.
Juan Morales
>Intel can recover >they did manage to recover >They aren't finished
I'm not a kike. It's a fact. AMD had a dual core processor, Pentium 4 looked like a fucking joke by comparison, and they had to whip something together quickly. They factually did recover from AMD beating them to multi-core CPUs. It's really hard to deny that when, even now if you look at 2nd hand computers, C2D are more prevalent than Athlons or Phenoms. And yes, they did use Jewish trickery to bribe vendors into using their hardware, no it's not ethical, Israel is shit.
Landon Reed
>48% yield for motherfucking bulk flash BULK. FLASH. holy shit how could they get literally repeating memory cells wrong? 99% sure this is FUD to spike SSD prices
>relatively new hardware arch has no known exploits >old hardware arch that hasn't change that much for years has lots of exploits known
Wow! I bet you're the same people who complain about Linux having more known exploits than Windows simply because you can find them more easily in Linux, which is a good thing since they get fixed sooner.
More like Intel was always shit but somehow suddenly everyone noticed
Luis Collins
The thing is they don't have any tricks up their sleeves; the Core 2 lineup was derived from their laptop chips, which had a whole second design team working on them. Intel doesn't have anything like that now. All their chips are basically Skylake derivatives, aside from the garbage Atom based ones.
If Intel had any secret stuff, they would have used it when they were trying break into the tablet/cellphone market; instead they had to pay OEMs to use their shitty Atom chips.
Intel basically needs a whole new chip design to move forward with, especially since they are losing their fab process advantage. New CPUs are extremely complex, and it will take several years before Intel has one.
David Powell
COPE
Liam White
Not in Intbecile's brainless headcanon world. As in - Ryan Shrout's/JayZ's/Tom's heads.
Tyler Rodriguez
The Atom architecture is showing some promise after 20% IPC gains generation after generation since Clover Trail. The Core architecture is an absolute dead end for them.
But Atom still has a very looong road ahead of them to come anywhere near Core or Zen.
Chase Taylor
98% of those Inturd's "exploits known" are NEWFOUND holes that weren't known of for decades prior, you dumb fuck.
Gavin Hill
That only measures Intel's and AMD's CPU vulnerabilities. Your argument doesn't make any sense.
Justin Bennett
>AMD shills jacking off at the thought of an AMD monopoly (lol
Julian Bell
>*KVECHING intensifies*
Christopher Williams
AMD did not design any of their CPU architectures after Spectre/Meltdown and friends was discovered, so your argument makes no sense. None of their architectures are affected by anything more than Spectre v1 (which affects speculative execution as a concept) and maybe v2.
Connor Hughes
I'm not sure the Atom chips are all that bad, from what I gathered they were pretty acceptable for tablets. Better than Mediatek, not as good for compact devices as Qualcomm. They will need a new architecture going forward, but even if takes them 2-3 years to design one, their chips aren't monumentally behind as it stands.
Whether AMD's further shrinks and developments create a larger rift is unknown, but if AMD can somehow come back after Bulldozer, I wouldn't put it past Intel to make it out of this rut either.
Benjamin Howard
Intel was able to go back to pentium 3 core design and update it, scrapping p4 entirely, they don't have an alternate design to go with. Intel has not had an alternate design in almost 25 years that has worked.
Intel did have the process advantage to fall back on for quite a while, but that's effectively gone and they are never getting it back
Im sure intel will do something competently in 3-5 years when their new uarch is out, but till then they are taking it raw from amd, and to top the shit sandwich off, they have so many performance killing vulnerabilities that there will be a mass exodus, if not before a company killing breach is enabled due to the cpus then after.
They paid oems to not use amd cpus to the tune of 107% of their quarterly revenue, as in they paid them more then they made selling the cpus to not use amd. the world is watching intel, I dont think they can do it again or even if they have the money TO do it again.
nah, ssd prices are set to plummet for price for storage, all this is is intels version of what should take over being hard to manufacture.
because intel made god damn sure amd suffered and had no war funds to properly develop bulldozer.
best of the best currently, though not worth the cost for consumers.
Logan Edwards
I'm very interested to see if AMD can manage to make Zen more power efficient in the low end, they idle a lot higher than an Intel equivalent, but use a lot less than Intel on load. If they manage to get the idle consumption lower, Intel will have no market to stand on.
Leo Lopez
> AMD monopoly Far from it, but it wouldn't hurt to get them at least 40% of CPU market.
Liam Phillips
We're in very interesting times, Qualcomm seems to be stepping up trying to compete. It's not too unlikely to see Qualcomm and AMD fighting it out if Intel is out of the game.
Levi Lee
Intlel shills are braindead apes, who would have thought.
Oliver Brown
>AMD with less money came back from obscurity >Intel with billions invested into them will just disappear because AMD shills said so
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Brayden Rivera
"Intel is the clear winner here bois"
Gabriel Ward
TSMC has infinitely more money than Intlel. Where's 10nm, intlel shill? They lost the node advantage forever, their only hope is to spin off their fabs.
Anthony Cox
He means that researchers look less into AMD vulns since they aren't dominant on that market. Or they do, but we don't know about it since they can't find anything. We don't know which outcome is true.
Jace Gray
>this delusion We had this already, rabbi.
Thomas Cook
They tested spectre shit on both intel and amd, and intel was BTFOd a lot harder
Benjamin Kelly
*All* of AMD's chips have poor power state controls. This has been the case for a long time. I remember Llano having the same issues years ago, and before that, even their semprons suffered in laptops. Honestly, it's why I still don't think I'd buy an AMD laptop today.
>They paid oems to not use amd cpus to the tune of 107% of their quarterly revenue Honestly, I had no idea they had paid them so much.
It really will take Intel a couple of years to play catch-up. There's a real possibility they'll have Team Retard and Team Innovate. Team Retard will keep piling more cores onto a die while aim for 10% increments to keep toe to toe with AMD, while Team Innovate hope they don't pull a Bulldozer.
Intel's 10nm process is still smaller than 7nm TSMC lmao.
Samuel Lee
And then you woke up
Xavier Kelly
>best of the best currently That's Samsung for you, alright.
Daniel Harris
>*All* of AMD's chips have poor power state controls. I wonder if that's because of AMD or manufacturers just not engineering their laptops properly because there's less incentive money-wise.
Because there's some Intel based laptops with similar battery sizes and spec configurations that have wildly varying battery life between models.
Andrew Powell
Nah it's a little bit bigger, where did you get your sauce?
Liam Jenkins
shut up goy
Ayden Hernandez
intlel shills are retarded schizos living in their fictional world
Leo Robinson
> delusion What are you trying to convey? They tested Spectre and while Intel was vulnerable and AMD was not, who knows? Maybe they didn't push there hard enough since Intel is a goldmine of vulns right now.
Christopher Hill
It's very likely they just haven't done the R&D for it. I can't conceivably see why the architecture itself would restrict power state management. Large chunks of power state management can be done by simply parking cores and lowering clock speeds.
Tyler Hughes
>TSMC 7nm - 98.21 Million Transistors per mm2 >Intel 10nm - 106.10 Million Transistors per mm2 AMDjeets BTFO
