Previous thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement) >P-Series - 15'' + 17'', 4K display, up to 64GB of RAM, Xeon CPU option. Expensive.
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet >Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
Seems pretty average, considering it's the i5 model, and doesn't mention an IPS panel or anything. Just don't bid too much. I'm not great with prices, but I'd at least try to stay under $200.
Josiah Gutierrez
My X230 has randomly stopped charging when plugged in. What's the issue? Battery going?
Jason Perry
The firmware does that automatically when the battery is full.
Jackson Allen
But usually the plugged in indicator in the system tray doesn't go away.
Dylan Hall
I wouldn't know I don't use Windows.
The firmware reports a state of unknown instead of discharging or charging when this happens on my T530 and I edited my battery widget to see it as charged so it doesn't trigger me.
Eli Green
Just got a T530 with the 5400M dGPU Any other special thinkpad-specific programs I should install other than tlp?
Kevin White
I wonder if it's the power connector port on the back. Don't those go bad on Thinkpads sometimes?
Zachary Richardson
I think it has to do with the PSU that they ship not being able to provide enough power to the system under load so it occasionally will tap into the battery. At least that is my understanding.
Carson Jones
They mention IPS in the title user
Hunter Green
Is it actually possible to swap gpus in p52? Like, if i get tye m1200m version, is it possible to upgrade to p1000 quadro? They both work with the same cpu, so ots the same chipset, right? Or is it soldered to hell like t560 was?
Matthew Perez
To the guy I was having a discussion with in the Libreboot thread that just got nuked.
The list of affected models did not include the X200 regarding pitch noise on the think wiki page you listed. To my knowledge those issues had been resolved by the time the X200/T400 series came out. Also, make sure you update your X200 EC to 1.07 which was released just a few years ago which greatly improved battery charging and performance.
My bad, I guess it probably is worth it then, although it's a shame it's not the i7 version with USB 3.0.
Wyatt Moore
Could anyone recommend a good ThinkPad for general development? Preferably something with a good screen and fairly lightweight. I'd like something less than £1,000. I've looked at laptops like the E range or the X1 but can't decide.
Alexander Williams
About to buy a Carbon x1 gen2. Did i do good? i5 4300u 256gb ssd 2k touch display 8gb ram for around 350 bucks
Jonathan Gonzalez
Help me, user. I just got an x230 and updated it with one 8GB stick of ram. Gave it a clean Win 10 install. Snappy system, but whenever I play youtube videos and raise the volume above a certain percentage somewhere in the 80s, the sound starts stuttering like crazy.
Bentley Robinson
driver issue?
Tyler Phillips
posted this in the last thread but it was already at bump limit so I'll post one more time. Ideapad 320, i7-7500u, Geforce 940MX GDDR5, 8Gb RAM Acer A515, AMD A12-9720P, Radeon RX 540, 8Gb RAM
Owen Long
What's the deal with IPS vs TN screens? I understand IPS is better, I have one for my desktop monitor, but I don't really understand the downsides of TN.
There's this guy who sells refurbished thinkpads on eBay, he's based in Canada so I would get reasonably fast shipping and no import duties.
I don't really care about the HDD as I'd probably remove/replace it, but is IPS + 16GB matched 8GB sticks of RAM worth the extra cost over 4+8GB non-matched RAM and TN screen?
Am I a sucker for paying this much? I could get an i5 TN 320GB HDD 4GB RAM for $250
but then I'd probably upgrade: >RAM: +8GB: C$84 +16GB: $169 >SSD: $89.94 >IPS screen C$100
ending up at C$524 to C$608
pros: >learn to do it myself >can be sure of quality parts going in
cons: >have to do it myself >takes longer >more expensive
downsides are viewing angles and colors being worse
I'd always pay more for IPS
Zachary Perry
>cropping out the perfectly fine cheaper model to make some sort of point bretty cringe m8
John Taylor
But has a working keyboard
Luke Phillips
I bought an x1carbon gen1 for my last semester at uni for 90$, 8GB ram model with a mint battery and its motherboard or ram shit the bed in 2 months. Getting a 2 beep code and no display. Is it 100% fucked?
What 14" or less thinkpad should I get to replace it for under $400? I'll be using virtualbox and windows per class reqs so I need like 8GB of ram minimum. Ideally it would also have an m2 slot so I can salvage the ssd from this carbon. X250 maybe?
Joseph Young
What loonyx notetaking programs would you recommend? Also if it can use the x220t digitizer that would be cool.
Kevin Bailey
Going to get a X2xx model because I'll be traveling and my T420 is too big to fit comfortably in my travel bag. I'll be running linux and only using it to check email and read/type/send documents. Is there any point in getting a X220? I imagine they'll all run about the same temperature and performance for such simple tasks should be about the same, right?
Nicholas Powell
What happened to the link and discount for the new ThinkPads?
Brayden Gutierrez
>more powerful hardware with more storage and better specs overall is more expensive imagine that
I just use vim and basic text files, but I've heard good things about emacs org-mode. If you're doing hand-written notes with the stylus, I don't know of any programs for that.
Owen Walker
ThinkPad X250 from eBay
Jacob Collins
They're pretty nice, I would recommend X220/30 for sure.
Liam Brown
will any of the AMD chip thinkpads handle c++ and matlab programs?
Anthony Hernandez
No, they will only run C and Octave
Aaron Jones
Nope, you'll need an Apple Macbook with Retina display.
It's literally not the AC adapter. I have two identical ones I've been using for years with that system with no problems. Stuff like the wifi board has stopped getting recognized too now. Even with just a battery connected.
May just sell for parts since the display works fine.
Easton Collins
I have 20-30 thinkpad x230s I've been trying to sell with little success. I paid about $350 for the entire pallet at a tech recycling warehouse.
Are there any places that would purchase them in bulk from me?
I work full time and hate using eBay.
I have them posted on Craigslist but I'm getting very little interest in my city.
Any ideas?
Would it be worth upgrading them all with SSDs for resale purposes?
Just ordered a T440p today, got one question for you guys though: How is the trackpad on that thing? I've been seeing a ton of people give it a lot of shit, is it worth it just to go ahead and swap it out with a T450 trackpad or is it at least bearable?
Ayden Phillips
why are laptop hinges gay now? why is the bottom of the top lid touching the floor? Whom was the genius that thought it was a good idea?
Jackson Bennett
Pure garbage, you'll need to spend the $20 on the t450 trackpad.
Chase Mitchell
>Do you only use the touchpad? It's fine like most laptops, nothing special. >Do you only use the trackpoint? It's an unusable steaming pile of shit, the T450 touchpad is a must and you should buy one asap.
Kevin Cooper
Well, this is my second Thinkpad, and I really fell in love with the trackpoint on my X200t, so that's a definite. I was wondering if that was going to be worth a shit for trackpoint control, good to know it isn't. I'll definitely get one ASAP, thanks.
Elijah Jenkins
whats the best thinky I can get for under 400 (used on craigslist or some shit)
needs to be relatively portable and decent processor. I don't need a gpu.
Kevin Ward
x230 or t440p
Luke Fisher
One more question and I'll shut up about it, but if anyone here has done the trackpad swap on the T440p before, was it as simple as just swapping the two, or is there anything else I'm gonna need to do to make sure it works?
Adam Russell
Hey I want a libreboot/coreboot capable thinkpad with the most security features possible (Fingerprint reader, TPM and all the shit alike) bonus point for Qubes OS capable (fits all requirements for 4.x), support non ME processors (AMD is tolerable) and can use an eGPU (even if I need to open for that) any models ?
Isaiah Gutierrez
>was it as simple as just swapping the two yes
Colton Sanders
My trusty X220 no longer seems to recognise anything in the expresscard slot, I have tried several different cards. Also the USB directly underneath the expresscard slot does not register anything that is plugged in. This is the case with several different OS's so probably a hardware problem.
Anyone ever come across this or have any suggestions?
Jaxson Martinez
meant for fck
William Wood
Alright, cool. Thanks user.
Owen Brown
X230 or T430
Leo Sullivan
Will let some go cheap if paid in bitcoin
Brody Powell
Can I only ask questions about business laptops?
Landon Peterson
yes everything else is shit
Jayden Harris
>mfw i have to get a 120gb ssd fot my x230 so i dont bloat my fresh linux install i hate myself i have a full 1TB desktop
What's the best place to get new ram for a T440p? Crucial is out of stock right now, will they get more or is this too old?
Jason Baker
thats weird, try different operating systems to see if its a configuration problem or a hardware problem
Lincoln Ramirez
What happened with the discount code for new thinkpads? Did Lenovo find out that a lot of frog poster were using the corporate perks for individual thinkpads?
I've had the power connector go bad on my old T420 6 different times, 5 times under warranty and once I had to fix it myself. Its really common especially if you move it around a lot.
Nathan Torres
winXP and ubuntu both have this issue really making it hard to use the laptop which is a shame given how I got it
Chase Lewis
IPS is more important for laptops because they are a mobile device. A desktops screen is often centred in the middle and you're almost always sitting directly in front of it whereas a mobile device like a laptop is often used in different angles and positions where an IPS can be of great use. IPS is also vastly superior in outside environments.
Caleb Foster
I had a keyboard that got wet and some keys change the input too. If that is the problem, I think there is not fix. Maybe you can try using other keyboard if you have the opportunity
Wyatt Jenkins
What do you do about it? I think I have the same issue, not charging at all, battery works fine and holds a charge, but won't recharge
Ethan Gutierrez
its like a time capsule, just needed a new battery.
wait wait, x230s as in plural x230, or the exact model x230s?
David James
As in multiple. I didn't even know there was an x230s
Matthew Hernandez
So I found this locally and I can but it for $170 us. He says the hard drive is encrypted after he did system restore and he forgot the password to unencrypt the data. I was wondering if this is a ezpz swap the hard drive as only the physical harddrive was encrypted or if this was the equivalent to a Thinkpad bios password where you can't change boot devices. If the latter is true would laptop repair places get rid of encryption or whatever?
How is the newest 13 series? I used to have a x131e but honestly I liked that one better than my x220. 13 series seems similar to x131e but a decent CPU and pricing. Has a better iGPU too than both x220 and x131e.
Should I get one next paycheck boys?
Thomas Hughes
Oh nevermind about the cpu.
Charles Nguyen
It means nigger stole it for crack money. You can wipe it if you aren't a dumb thieving nigger.
Luis Taylor
Buy a new one for 5 bucks, disassemble your computer down to nothing, replace it and rebuild your computer.
Lenovo's are practically made to be disassembled as long as you don't mistake the different sized screws from one other.
I'd recommend always having two chargers however, just in case it was the fact that your charger which got a short near where it plugs in. You can try the charging cable around, keep your fingers right near the end where it plugs in and if you hear a spark/buzz or suddenly feel it get warm you're more likely to have a short in the charger instead and you should replace that. It's VERY annoying replacing the charging port if it was the charger broken instead.
Okay so I made some progress, now I have the listing in grub to update the bios but I have the errors in pic related. Here's what I have in /etc/grub.d/40_custom : #!/bin/sh exec tail -n +3 $0
Both the bios.img and memdisk are in my /boot folder, I installed syslinux and I copied memdisk from /lib/syslinux/bios/memdisk What am I doing wrong here ?
Well, my autistic ass finally managed to upgrade the BIOS, the problem I had all allong is that I should have wrote linux16 /boot/memdisk initrd16 /boot/bios.img
XPS 15 >same as above but with a 400 nit FHD Price:$1699
Explain.
Carter Jenkins
I'm looking to buy a new laptop, I switched to from ThinkPad to MSI a few years ago and I'm considering switching back. My main use is for programming. I need to do some computationally intensive tasks (statistics on large datasets, training machine learning models) for my job. The bulk of it gets done in the cloud, but I still need a powerful laptop to run test projects locally.
Are there any Thinkpads with an Nvidia GPU and 16+gb RAM ? I don't have any particular budget limits.