Moon colonization technology

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Can we really make a moon station with current human technology, assuming we cooperate and finance it?

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no because we never landed on the moon.

It's simply a matter of money at this point. The technology has existed since the apollo days.

>The technology has existed since the apollo days
>being this bluepilled

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>Can we really make a moon station
We haven't even put a habitation on the bottom of the sea yet.
That's significantly closer and yet less-well known. 70% of the Earth's surface is under at least a mile of water. We have only dipped our toes in there.

NOT

ECONOMICALLY

VIABLE

is anyone else really put off by this graphic design? Looks like a crappy toddler's toy, the type people grow out of when they turn five or six

There's some very questionable things in this video.
Namely, pregnancy even working on the moon.
Need to see how much gravity matters for forming a baby, and it might to some really shitty inviable stuff.

One thing is for sure.. Whoever lives in the moon will not be able to come back to land.

It's not pokemon where the stuff adapts like that.
You may just get horrible deformities that don't work anywhere.

>it would cost XXX billion dollars to start the colony according to NASA and the private sector
okay
>if we had a moon base it would lead to all sorts of incredible technology *rocket boot graphic* and we would all be involved and it would springboard us into the rest of the solar system and we would have "unlimited resources"
hang on, what? you can't just say all that shit in an ostensibly informative video. the moon has very limited resources and they aren't found in concentrated amounts, they're very diffuse and mostly worth very little, for one thing

It's also a lot harder to do, numnuts

Why are we bringing niggers to the moon? Just so tyrone can knock up some moon niggeress then fly back off to earth?

Technically something as simple as a train running the diameter of the moon at a slow and constant speed is enough to keep you in shape to return to earth. The centrifugal force would simulate a low gravity.

No sorry, we have to feed dindus.

this was my biggest problem with the video, and the channel in general. A lot of hand-waiving and misguided/misinformed optimism. I'm not sure what the angle here is my misrepresenting facts, but it's definitely not the first time the channel has done it to paint some happy futuristic scenario.

While true, it's also easier to launch rockets and things into space for asteroid mining from the moon than it is from Earth

I don't know about the video as I havent watched it, but unlimited resources is effectively correct in a sense. Just not on the moon. Using the moon as a springboard for infrastructure however? That makes perfect sense. The first step however would be to cut launch costs from earth just so we can get the starting materials out there in the first place. But once we've got the bare minimum infrastructure to supply the moon from other places in the solar system the potential for growth there is endless.

The only thing that makes space development expensive is the cost of getting up there. Once we've got a solid foundation it only gets easier
There's actually a much more in-depth channel about this stuff if you're interested.
youtube.com/watch?v=JgxkilF5XUM&list=PLIIOUpOge0LsGJI_vni4xvfBQTuryTwlU
Isaac Arthur is very solid and sticks to the math the whole way through. I -highly- recommend his channel.

No because jews

Pretty sure he means because of the demons.

That would be silly, we're talking earth's moon here, not phobos.

Well, we could go about it like colonization on Earth, but with the problem of exploiting natives.

Is there anything on the moon we can sell on Earth cost effectively?

No because
1. We never actually went to the moon
2. Being born in space would cause tons of deformities in the baby
3. I don't think current NPCs are fit to live on the moon

We need to forget about these space colony memes.

The earth is all there is. Until we have the technology teleporting around the universe. Because even at the speed of light, you aren't going anywhere interesting.

Sealab! Underneath the water!

based/redpilled

Centrifugal habitats could also be built, for the Moon or Mars. It would be like living in a giant version of those carnival rides. At the very least, the any pregnant women and young children could stay there.

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>Hate exploring for the same of exploring, not even considering other benefits
>Calling others NPCs.
Fuck off, npcs

it doesn't require cooperation, it's actually quite the opposite. the reason the better people on earth haven't done anything remarkable recently is because they decided they would rather babysit mentally retarded adults in third world cesspools. we don't even have money to build nice looking bridges or buildings anymore, in fact, we can't even afford to maintain the nice things that previous generations built. stop thinking about yourself and your silly moon fantasy, all those poor africans need your money for machetes and kerosene.

nyet. just you. its not even that bad

And how would you get the materials for the rockets to the moon?

You know what I noticed about this video? Not a single white male in it.

Yes, the initial few launches would be from Earth. I'm not denying that. But after that we could harvest asteroids for the resources. Did you not even bother to read my entire post?

Is this a shilling for drumpf's space force?

>space niggers

Dropped

fuck in a nutshell. everything they produce is fluffy horseshit.

this thread has me curious now. have there ever been any experiments with pregnant mice or some shit in space? imma google it.

>space pup
nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/893.html

The question wasn't about exploration. I'm all for exploring space but until we find a planet that meets our requirements and isn't unreasonably far away (spoiler: they all are), space colonisation is not getting anywhere.

Yeah, might as well just give up then! Is too hard!

Doesn't the body get pretty fucked up if you're in no gravity for pro-longed periods of time? A child growing up in space might end up horribly damaged.

>Can we really make a moon station with current human technology, assuming we cooperate and finance it?
Short answer: Yes.
Real answer: No.
We have the tools, and technology to build functional settlements on the moon, it is a matter of money basically. There is no financial gain from doing so, and likely never will be.

There is no fucking point
Zero economic reason to build a base on some rock
anything you could mine there is not worth the price of sending rockets back and forth and maintaining a habit on a planet with no atmosphere, no soil and being bombarded by cosmic radiation

Rare Earth metals are called such because they are rare on Earth. They are not so rare in asteroids. There are rocks with tons of platinum and other expensive metals flying within our nearby reach that we could harvest them. Is definitely worth it

>Is definitely worth it
when you consider the cost, it's definitely not worth it

Goes back to
>Why do anything new? The initial cost is far too high.

I didn't say initial cost, I said cost, period, there's no forseeable point where it would ever be worth it
Maybe if new technology were invented that made space travel and habitation cheap, but then you should invent that technology first shouldn't you?

Of course not. You need to be in the environment to make the tech, not to mention the benefits to people not in the space industry that spawn from all the research and testing and usage in space

You're a liar, the coloniser at the start who killed billions, was white.

>You need to be in the environment to make the tech
no you fucking dont
you don't need to live on the moon to build a rocket
you're proposing something with astronomical costs and dangers for little benefit that can't be achieved on earth

>Because even at the speed of light, you aren't going anywhere interesting.
Actually, if you achieve light speed you can go anywhere up to the cosmic horizon.
The only issue is time dilation

>Asrtronomical costs
>All the stuff NASA has done on pennies to the dollar
You don't need to live on the moon to build a rocket, but you do need to live there to create better tech to use the environment better, to better develop space mining machines. To facilitate cheaper rocket launches

Living on the moon would help you build a moon habitat, obviously, but the problem is the cost of transport means it isn't even close to economically viable with current transportation technology

And the initial cost is higher because gravity on Earth is heavier. But as a colony develops on the moon, you need to
>Launch from Earth less
And
>Take less resources to launch due to the lower gravity

wud b kool

It will still never be close to worth it with current technology. The initial investment is so massive it's never going to pay off, and it probably won't even pay off if you are producing and launching rockets from the moon. It's a pipe dream for sci-fi nerds that isn't practical in the slightest. You think going to the moon is cool and try to come up with reasons to justify it

there would be plenty of economic reason if we fuck up Earth to a degree where rich fucks would consider it viable to live in space
basically I want Elysium to happen but without the pro immigration thing

Antimatter rockets are clean ( no nuclear waste ) A single gram is equivalent to 23 fuel tanks.

What's the investment? What tech do we need to have to make it viable? Give me evidence that we can't do it for any reason beyond "it doesn't pay off in 6 months"

>What's the investment?
building a moon base and figuring out how to make it sustainable
>What tech do we need to have to make it viable?
Cheap transportation for one
>Give me evidence that we can't do it for any reason beyond "it doesn't pay off in 6 months"
It's completely possible, it just isn't worth the money. It probably wouldn't pay off in 60 years

Let the world be mutt.
That will fix everything.

Cost figures, user. Give them.
>Wouldn't pay off in 60
What's 60 years for the future of humanity. If we don't start now, it's just 60 more years from when we do start.

how much nuclear fuel do you have to burn to produce a gram of antimatter?

>Cost figures, user. Give them.
look at the video in the OP
billions
and human lives too probably

dat zoomer magnet animation tho

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What about a tourist attraction where people get excited over a bunch of moon rocks.

I wasn't programmed to hear that

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I thought white people were the evil colonizers

>>>> /sci/

this
it's made for soibeans like this fucking retard

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE ISN'T ECONOMICALLY VIABLE?! FEEDING NIGGERS LOL!

OH FUCK I FORGOT MY IMAGE ROFL

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