ITT:

>kernel got coc'd
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make it pls

That's not controversial

spamming Jow Forums threads is more harmful than CoC shitting trannies.

He's right though, linux is now a dead meme just like the SJW browser. People who have it now only do so as a joke or they're part of the problems themselves.

linux is fine, nothing changed in the project. Other kernels are also perfectly fine, none of these things are related to desktops. Only thing it relates to is (which linux still has)

How do you know that? How do you know that 90% of linux code is not SJW/LGTBQQ dogshit?

I don't wanna find out and am wiping my drive as we speak.

>linux was never good for audio (3 barely usable lame kludges in a row: OSS, ALSA, PulseAudio)
>linux was never good with both NVIDIA and ATI graphic cards
>linux never had good "real time" kernel functionality because it wanted to remain in the 70's unix paradigm
>linus trovalds was personally behind all these failures, he's not a hero nor a good leader but a cucked boomer asshole
>it never was the year of the linux desktop for people who wanted to do more with linux besides office wagecuck stuff and nerdo obscure commie programming

Because it is code and not those things. At worst the mailing list is going to be shittier because there's nobody like linus to stop the bickering.

PulseAudio is unironically good except at what it was made for (networking)
Linux is identically as good as any other OS with nvidia drivers
Yeah it doesn't do real real time except maybe in some stripped down 2.6 builds.
Linus didn't do much of anything, especially related to audio or nvidia.
Year of the linux desktop doesn't even apply anymore, they run browsers instead.

>Yeah it doesn't do real real time
I believe Fuchsia and possibly seL4/Genode do though.
The future's looking pretty good

Supercomputers, Android, Servers, IoT. A joke.

there are always merits in separating compile time from run time in a language model
unixoides were never good
single-paradigm things will die
DSLs are dead in one way or another as soon as they include some form of boolean logic because at this point you might as well use a real programming language
"scripting" is ill defined and abused as an excuse for shoddy software development practises
the shell is an inner system effect
C should never have been standardized, it should be fragmented and fading
the web is an inner system effect and inherently cache-unfriendly
ad hoc languages in the vein of Python and Ruby were made by people without further understanding for the consequences of their semantics
while Windows can be considered a poor unixoid it does a couple of things better; these days, its main problem is being a botnet
data and logic should be separated as much as possible
a lack of advanced metaprogramming features manifests in shitty external tools, framework approaches, overconfiguration
metaprogramming is best done almost entirely at compile time, as it is best to keep semantic spans in one context
mircosoft can't be trusted, neither can any other OS vendor
emacs and vim actually are bad text editors
systemd is merely a symptom of something else
unix was just an excuse to implement piping
9-bit bytes should have won

>PulseAudio is unironically good except at what it was made for (networking)
Unironically it's a buggy kludge with way more latency than it's counterparts and it's not profesional grade, only hobby grade.

>Linux is identically as good as any other OS with nvidia drivers
It has specific OS bugs tied to linux, reported half a decade ago and never unresolved, specially when using 2 screens, it's just a top of the head example but it tells how things are handled about it.

>Yeah it doesn't do real real time except maybe in some stripped down 2.6 builds.
Because the guy doing that module got tired of Trovalds personal attacks bullshit and took his toys and went away from the kernel.org shit.

>Linus didn't do much of anything, especially related to audio or nvidia.
Audio is shit mostly because the kernel is not targeting real time issues that are needed for everyday modern use with personal computers, because linus literally bullyed those who didn't wanted to remain in the unix 70's paradigm(his words). Linus personally refused to do anything with NVIDIA, and got into an inane fight with them, pressured all the kernel.org members to do as he says. PIC RELATED is him telling the reporters to take his picture and to tell NVIDIA to get fucked. No it's not a joke, that really happened.

>Year of the linux desktop doesn't even apply anymore, they run browsers instead.
Great excuse, but not all user computing could be done with browsers, but only the most mainstream shit. As I said, not everyone is an office wagecuck or nerdo obscure commie programmer.

And you user are just a fucking disinfo unpaid shill fanboy. All I wrote is googleable.

You can keep trying the apologist excuses, I don't care about your Ubuntu install for normie stuff.

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There is latency but thats a given for anything that supports bluetooth. It's definitely not professional audio production grade? But still great at audio mixing and management at slightly less than realtime.
The problems with Nvidia aren't linux related, they were tied to Xorg.
Linux was never designed for realtime and the patches that handled that were iffy at best. That's like saying Windows doesn't do realtime, not important.
Low latency audio isn't a thing except in very very very niche uses and is actually impossible in most modern everyday situations. It's basically nothing to do with kernel anyway, nvidia refused to work with linus and thus nvidia is not related to the kernel.

Every desktop computing thing can be done with browsers or other similar technologies.

those sound like jokes

>Every desktop computing thing can be done with browsers or other similar technologies.

Is this another one of this "This badboi PII can run everything your i7 can run just slower." threads?

Uh probly not a PII but shit like electron apps and various other browserified interfaces are ubiquitous. Very few people actually need a desktop OS to do work or other recreation that isn't vidya. Vidya is also mostly portable except where explicitly DRM'd to not run places.

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>muh sheets and gay mes are all dem normies need
Why is it that some faggot without real life experience always utters this non-fact in order to shill the cloud meme as a consequence for offering multiple services for the same data?
Also how, did you go from
>Every desktop computing thing can be done with browsers or other similar technologies.
to
>but shit like electron apps and various other browserified interfaces are ubiquitous

It's not even cloud, that's just one of the many options. As for
>going from X to Y
That's literally the same statement twice.

>There is latency but thats a given for anything that supports bluetooth.
But happens when not using bluetooth and with professional grade sound cards, that use to work pretty fine but not with linux PulseAudio

> It's definitely not professional audio production grade? But still great at audio mixing and management at slightly less than realtime.

>The problems with Nvidia aren't linux related, they were tied to Xorg.
So Trovalds did not made that meltdown fit that caused all that trouble back then? The open source noveau drivers suck, and the official closed source drivers suck less but they are abandonware because NVIDIA has no time or money to apease a minority of politicized nerdos

>Linux was never designed for realtime and the patches that handled that were iffy at best. That's like saying Windows doesn't do realtime, not important.

>Low latency audio isn't a thing except in very very very niche uses and is actually impossible in most modern everyday situations.
Well, there are people, users, in that niche, that get to use any other commercial OS with consumer products(software and hardware) and it works out of the box without the need to beg for it to the OS developers, linux never delivered and it never will, because of excuses like yours.

>Every desktop computing thing can be done with browsers or other similar technologies.
You're either being naive/ignorant or just shilling. The thing is what about people who's into professional audio engineering on a budget and are video gamers also, even about old games with source, like stalker(that it's being ported to linux but slowly as fuck) even if it would get to be ported for (((browser))) how many frames per second would it run, and how bad would it look in comparison to either Dx10 or Dx11. PulseAudio and OpenGL aren't the non-plus-ultra of solutions and you know it, they are very limited and it shows, it's not the 2000s anymore, the future is now old man.

>Cont'd
If open source platforms development would be way less politicized I assure you it would had done way more than the stagnation it is right now. And It shows, the more politicized it is the less delivering it does, like GNU. Because it attracts less developers, or pushes away the ones already doing something.

GNU/Linux is useful for some, but not for all, mostly because the people trying to do something has to be group-thinking in accord to the politburo's dogma or their code gets gulaged.

Forking is also another usual lame excuse, and barely does good, like the Xorg shit.

Pulseaudio is pretty great at mixing, yeah.

Linus had a meltdown because Nvidia wouldn't cooperate at all with the kernel guys. There was nothing for linus to do but call them out on it.

There are far lower latency audio systems than pulse that are for actual professional use tier. Not related to the kernel though. It's nothing to do with linux.
>games
>games
>gamers
Can fucking kill themselves (but they mostly run fine on linux now if you're not a tard)

Linux was fine
>was
>was
FeelsTerribleMan. I want to kill myself. Probably will jump off some 15 store apartment building and aim for the roof so that people do not even have to deal with parts of my body.

>> It's definitely not professional audio production grade? But still great at audio mixing and management at slightly less than realtime.
It only works for everyday users, not really useful for professional audio production. nothing besides a youtuber or podcaster.

>Linux was never designed for realtime
Yes, and that's why it's not useful for the things I mentioned.

>and the patches that handled that were iffy at best.
Because they were develped by a guy that got isolated by their peers because he wasn't following the dogma.

> That's like saying Windows doesn't do realtime, not important.
I know the monolithic kerne it is, and it does way better real-time than linux. and it is important, probably not important for you, but for others it is.

>games
>Can fucking kill themselves (but they mostly run fine on linux now if you're not a tard)
Hey there linus, you boring boor, you can go fuck yourself also, your dogmatic computing views are dead memes since the 70s. Everyone left you behind and your ancient C code.

Pulseaudio isn't the only audio system for linux. It's the nonprofessional tier.

Realtime really doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't have anything to do with kernel design outside timing and deadlines. It has nothing to do with vidya.

Redhat is CentOS with enterprise support and is a stable OS for corporate world.

CentOS and Fedora are basically beta testers.

Many hobby distros are a waste of effort, and shouldnt exist.

>(but they mostly run fine on linux now if you're not a tard)
Lel, tell that to all those professional developers that tried to jump on the meme linux OS that Valve tried to push and had to downgrade their game's graphics for linux, hahaha.

Those are called "mobile game developers." Nobody ever had to downgrade graphics on linux but nobody really tried. Valve completely failed at everything relating to SteamOS.

Grape-kun was too pure for this world.

>no fun allowed

but according to user "game developers" and "gamers" should kill themselves, we don't want those doing any computing anytime soon, especially with our pure unstained precious Operative Systems that could actually fullfill everybody's computing needs right now, and if it does not, then they should kill themselves too for trying to use computers in a deviant queer way.

So it's pointless, don't even try!!

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But this is Jow Forums, this is the place to bash on gamers!! This is the perfect place for it.

DEATH TO ALL GAMES, GAMERS AND GAME DEVELOPERS!!!

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Unnecessary censorship further proving point

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>GNU/Linux was trash, now that's cucked and SJWd it's a dumpster fire, still linux fanboys will keep fapping to it and it's toxic fumes fetish.

>when a cartoon of the ideologists became a better ideologist than you, still you try to send them to the gulag before they sent you there because you know it will happen.

lol JK

You just wrote the natural history of every leftist movement.

>Controversial opinions thread
>Still gets censored
wow, those fucking censoring S 0 Y cucks