Anyone using Ubuntu 18.04?

Anyone using Ubuntu 18.04?
I'm using it with a phenom 2 550 x2
and an AMD 6950 1gb

Now these same specs with any Windows version is smooth, 720p 60fps flawless, can do gaming 60fps, very smooth interface

ubuntu 18.04 is very laggy and choppy, can barely play 720p video, ETC

This is fresh install

Anything i'm missing here? Linux still garbage? I thought it was suppose to be faster for old hardware? Wtf is this?

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wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#AMD
smxi.org/sg/sgfxi
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI
phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-cat-wow&num=2
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Install Xubuntu instead and make sure you're using the proper drivers

Isn't there only one current choice for AMD drivers? the default opensource ones?

There is no other driver to use for AMD 6950 ...

It's laggy as fuck.

I also have Arch Linux KDE plasma installed on another partition, I havn't launched it in awhile but I bet it's just as laggy and cant even run 720p 60fps as well...

Linux, plz...

>Anything i'm missing here?
yeah, configuring Linux
free means it's free to be configured to fit your hardware, there are no big dev nannies, just users like you whose experience you should take into consideration first

What is there to even configure on ubuntu 18.04 that could possibly run smooth

I thought this was suppose to be ready for desktop use.... There is nothing to configure, no alternative drivers to try, barely any interface tweaks... it's just still trash, after almost 30 years

Amazing.

Gnome is known to be choppy and slow, especially on older AMD cards

uhh, new Linux kernel barely supports AMD's drivers

When they say it's good for old hardware they dont mean your gpu
Its good on your HDD, Ram, Cpu, because its easy on background workload
But gpu needs proper drivers, back then no company bothered with making drivers for linux, on a lot of old ((legacy)) amd gpus dont even have drivers for win10
So its gonna keep running shit unless you switch to integrated graphics or a different gpu

Gnome 3 is a slow and laggy piece of shit

so what's the conclusion

Linux is still fucking useless?

Cool. Nice OS you idiots have here. Enjoy your 0.5% market share.


Lol. My motherboard has onboard graphics. You're telling me if I unplug my once $300 graphics card that can play 1080p games at 60fps, I'll get better performance?

AMAZING OS guys. Bravo.

To be fair once windows7 loses support you're gonna be stuck using outdated software along side your old hardware
It's really amds fault that they decided to cuck their customers and not provide proper drivers

I thought Nvidia was the one with shit drivers on linux

So wait AMD and Nvidia both have shit drivers on linux

LOLD HARD

>muh market share
captlsts get out

So I figured out

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#AMD

Apparently my card is just old enough where it is not using the newer open source AMDGPU driver which is suppose to be 'great'

Instead it has to use the OLD open source driver simply 'ATI'


So the reason my performance is so trash is because I just slightly missed compatibility for the actual useful recent open source driver

My options:
1. Attempt to use the extremely outdated proprietary 'Catalyst legacy' driver

2. Take out my perfectly good, well performing (mechanically) GPU and attempt to use the Onboard GPU (which I think is like AMD 3000 series, thats probably going to be much worse actually)

3. Stop wasting my fucking time with linux garbage and go back to what actually works without issue .


HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Install the proprietary drivers by going to "Software & Updates" > "Additional Drivers". The default drivers are not going to give you the best performance. Windows automatically installs these proprietary drivers, but on Ubuntu, you need to enable them yourself. Once you do so, you will have performance and feature parity with Windows. (NOTE: Installing Xfce or any other desktop is unnecessary for performance unless you simply don't like the default Ubuntu desktop.)

INSTALL BSD

your card probably runs like shit on the newer amdgpu driver, look up howto install the legacy radeon driver instead.

nvidia open source driver (nouveau) is absolute trash, on my older laptop with a quadro gpu there is constant screen artifacts showing up. lately linux has really turned to shit and a lot of regressions are added in the kernel because development is rushed and nobody bothers with bug reports about older/rare hardware that get broken with newer versions. on my lenovo tablet, everything works after some tweaking on kernel 4.12, since 4.13 audio and sd card reader are broken, I filled a bug report about the audio, it was assigned to some loser and stayed this way forever.

Just looked.
'No additional drivers are available'

Like my last post, my card JUST missed the mark for compatibility with both newer propritary, AND newer open source drivers

My only option right now is to attempt to use the insanely old FGLRX driver, which I have no idea how to do, or if its even possible on ubuntu 18.04

For that matter, it would seem my current system is also completely useless on ANY linux distro.

I mean this is just a backup hobby joke computer, but its still incredible to see just how useless linux is in most real life Desktop cases. Lol.


oh yeah I have to say ubuntu 18.04 also looks like total shit aesthetically and many of the visual themes dont even blend together. Yikes.

Also i've been googling for like 15 minutes trying to figure out the most stock standard command to just figure out exactly which GPU driver i'm using

It's actually pretty hard to find out how to see what GPU driver im using

Lol ..

lsmod | grep amd
lsmod | grep fglrx


Not sure if the sgfxi would auto detect and install the right drivers for your AMD. It's supposed to support installatio of fglrx.
Try:
sudo wget -O /usr/local/bin/sgfxi smxi.org/sg/sgfxi
sudo chmod +x sgfxi
# here you switch to vtty2 by pressing ctrl+alt+f2
# login to your virtual terminal as root
# note: press ctrl+alt+f1 or f7 t' return to UI
In vtty, run sgfxi as root
Should detect your hardware and suggest driver to install

zeeb@zeeb-GA-MA78GM-S2H:~$ lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Cayman PRO [Radeon HD 6950]
Kernel driver in use: radeon


as i thought it's using the oldest and slowest version of open source driver 'radeon'

any of the newer and more usable drivers are unsupported for me.

They discontinued fglrx support in 16.04.

RIP

I have another system with an Nvidia gtx 760.

but should I even bother? lol..

>most real life desktop cases

Most real life desktops are used for work and business instead of GAYMING like you're trying to get your shit "hobby" pc to do.

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At least try sgfxi if you have nothing to lose. But the 760 should work fine.

I don't want to game on linux you retarded faggot
I just want acceptable performance for doing my WORK and MULTIMEDIA playback

fucking nonce

ok thanks
no one else finds it damn shocking that basically ANY AMD/ATI card before 2011 is completely UNUSABLE GARBAGE on ANY linux distro?

I mean, thats really shocking a

Gnome seems to be shit.

I'm running an i3 2120, GTX 560Ti, 8GB of RAM and SSD.
Ubuntu 18.04 is sluggish while w7 runs wonderful.

......and unacceptable in my opinion.

In 2018, people typically use their computers for a variety of purposes, not just browsing Jow Forums or watching loli porn. A variety of purposes could include watching HD streaming, playing light games, or working in a photo/video editor, all of which require reasonable graphics performance.

>Now these same specs with any Windows version is smooth, 720p 60fps flawless, can do gaming 60fps, very smooth interface

Admit you have a piece of shit PC and nobody bought something shit enough to even develop for it

back to
>>Jow Forumseddit with you

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*stutters*
*screen tears*
*lags*

Ok, wow, linux is so amazing, any AMD gpu made before the year 2012 is completely unusable and awful performance on every single distro ever

Wow, you win. I guess you're right. Linux is the best, guys!

lol
Loonextard admitting his tranny os can't run as well as windows do.

AMD are the ones to blame here, they won't update or release the code for their drivers, so Linux people can do nothing to fix them.

Like I'm actually in awe that it is impossible to use linux with any acceptable DE performance manufactured 2012 and under.

How is this acceptable as a reasonable OS people should even consider giving attention?

Joke OS
Toy OS

If the posters in this thread are any indication, some elements of the Linux community are hesitant to fix actual performance issues and instead want to play around with internal politics or rice their system so their loli porn can match their terminal colors. Note that companies like Canonical and Red Hat, companies that we hate on here, actually work hard to ensure that hardware released since 2011 works well by default under Linux. You might just have an incompatible video card. 2011 was seven years ago, and Linux is already moving ahead with newer technologies for more recent hardware.

*with any acceptable DE performance WITH AN AMD CARD manufactured 2012 and under *****

sry

yeah thats cool, ok linux might be slightly usable and enjoyable as a desktop computer IF all of your hardware was made post 2012, sure

But the amount of times I hear people spout "linux is amazing for older hardware"
or
"linux will save your old crappy computer!"

etc

Just total lies.
One of the only two major GPU companies (amd) are completely broken 2012 and under for ALL distro's

Sad state of affairs.

>acceptable performance
>amd gpu
>on any system ever

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Just booted the same system into windows 7

Played the exact same youtube video that would barely work 720p ubuntu

It ran 1080p 60fps on windows 7 with 10 tabs open and multiple programs

Nice OS freetards. /sarcasm

Oh and dont even get me started on Audio engineering or multimedia creation on Linux.

Linux is truly an OS only good at fucking text documents. Rofl

>ubuntu 18.04 is very laggy and choppy
this
>can barely play 720p video
not only that it can't even play it out of the box

You are the one who should fuck off you consumerist whore.

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>Isn't there only one current choice for AMD drivers? the default opensource ones?
Don't the kernel drivers only support GCN?

>I mean this is just a backup hobby joke computer, but its still incredible to see just how useless linux is in most real life Desktop cases. Lol.
6950 is gonna run like shit on every OS, it's just kinda a shit architecture.

Works on my system.

My Thinkpad's fan barely makes a sound while running ubuntu - in contrast to windows where it is loud, at least for as long as the updates take.

>spacing
>/sarcasm
You know, we're not mentally challenged here as you and your friends are out there on reddit. I also hate linux because of discussed things, but i hate you more

s e e t h i n g

$ node

node: command not found
you can install it by running 'sudo apt install nodejs'

$ sudo apt install nodejs

error: package nodejs not found


yeah.... that's a yikes from me

Arch wiki says otherwise
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI
>The open source driver is on par performance-wise with the proprietary driver for many cards.
If unsure, try the open source driver first, it will suit most needs and is generally less problematic.

See benchmarks also:
phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-cat-wow&num=2

I never used AMD GPU on Linux but it sounds more like a brain error, than Linux problem.

>before the year 2012
Why the fuck would you use anything that old when you can get a better performing card for 100-200$ today which has better power efficiency? Sell your shit card and buy one that wasn't made in time AMD didn't make drivers for Linux.

Try out Wayland, way smooth. Judging by your CPU, I'd say Pop OS would make a great choice. Just click the cogwheel icon at the login screen and select Wayland.

>use windows for free
>or pay $200 to use linux
Riiight.

I can watch 1080P youtube videos and shit on my Ubuntu 16.04 install. AMD A10-6800k APU I think

It's laggy/choppy because GNOME is shit.
Video playback is just fine. Video playback =! Video streaming. Most browsers have relatively poor hardware acceleration on Linux, however that's improving fairly quickly.

No shit, OP's CPU is literally worthless. Even a pentium G5400 has a good +40% single core perf over the 6800K, let alone wipe the floor with the phenom and piss on its grave.

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>it's someone else's fault our timesink OS is crap
yikes...

the conclusion is to stop larping as a normie, pajeet. we can smell your fuĺl of shit asshole from here

Haha dude these AMD processors are pretty shit from these time period. To make matters worse, I used to try to function with an A6-5400k up until like last year. G A R B A G E

I'm still going AMD on my next build though because poverty

0/10 reading comprehension

What the fuck are you talking about?

You being retarded isn't the distros fault.
Fuck off.

It doesn't work and that's the only thing that matters. Stop playing hot potato to escape the blame.

Get an nvidia gpu. AMD drivers are shit even on Windows.

Windows 10 is about as slow as modern Gnome 3 (which is to say very slow). I have a Ryzen 5 with 8gb of ram and a 1060 and the UI still takes like 100 milliseconds to respond in some cases (especially UWP """apps""" like the fucking settings screen).
The stuttering when playing video could be because the browsers on linux (except some beta versions of chromium) don't support video hardware accel, everything else could be because you are using low quality GPU drivers.

Actually modern AMD cards have better support by default on Linux (without installing proprietary drivers).

It's not the browser. Literally watching a 1080p video on YouTube right now from an AMD A10-6800k computer on Ubuntu 16.04

>Ubuntu 18.04 is choppy on fresh install

Sadly everyone has the same problem, OP.

The problem is that Canonical chose to revert back to Ubuntu-Gnome from Unity (which worked well for performance) and Gnome, as you already figured out from experience, is very choppy.

I too suffer from the same problem. Here's what happens when running nvidia-smi:
user@ubuntu:~$
Wed Sep 19 05:21:12 2018
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 390.48 Driver Version: 390.48 |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU Name Persistence-M| Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
| 0 GeForce GTX 960 Off | 00000000:01:00.0 On | N/A |
| 30% 36C P2 28W / 120W | 508MiB / 2000MiB | 0% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes: GPU Memory |
| GPU PID Type Process name Usage |
|=============================================================================|
| 0 1117 G /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg 15MiB |
| 0 1164 G /usr/bin/gnome-shell 56MiB |
| 0 4577 G /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg 203MiB |
| 0 4670 G /usr/bin/gnome-shell 221MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

What drivers are you using on each version? You can find out by running lsmod. Alternatively maybe you have something consuming excess amounts of CPU, check using whatever task manager your distro comes with
Nothing strange, Unity should consume about the same

>Linux still garbage?
No linux is fine. You just have to do one tweak to get ubuntu perfect.
sudo apt install awesome

and then just log out and log back in with awesomeWM selected.

Hope i could help you :-)

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NVIDIA-SMI was more meant for OP to see what GPU and drivers I have.

Ubuntu-Gnome and just Gnome3 in general is an unoptimized piece of shit that makes me feel insecure about the hardware I have. Scrolling down websites seems slow and choppy and it just suffers from a fuckload of issues. I'd switch to a different DE but I'm in IDE most of the time so I could give less of a shit

No, I mean mine works just fine. :D

The only choppyness I experienced was when I tried to throw in my old Nvidia 8400gs and run 4 monitors. Xorg then took up all of my CPU cycles and I was too retarded to install the nvidia driver correctly.

>only good at fucking text documents
or you know programming or something useful other than watching youtube with 10 tabs open

Or you could install lxde/xfce/MATE/Plasma+compton and stop complaining like a little child.

People hate to admit it or outright deny it, but hardware support is shit in general, especially compared to Windows.
They like touting the rare cases when something isn't supported on Windows anymore but still has drivers on Lunix, except most of the time these drivers are basic and/or perform poorly.

The latest version of Ubuntu is garbage.
XUbuntu is better imo; same base, but a much lighter DE.

(and that's a good thing)