/pcbg/ PC Building General

Moar RAM edition-

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

CPU
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050 3Gb or RX560 for lower settings and/or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.
OpenCL work
>Vega 64

Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS)
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots
Found the poomd shill

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x
GPU: Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ 8Gb
RAM: 16Gb 2966/3200MHz(???) CL14

Can I expect 1080p60 streaming, 60+ gayming?
First AMD build.
How does StoreMI works? Should I buy two HDDs, one paired with SSD and the other for cat pics? Or just one big? Do I make a partition for OS?
Is stock Ryzen Wraith Spire cooler enough for slight OC?

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Can I OC 2600x to 5ghz with a Noctua

how does it "just work" when it has nothing to work on?

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Prove him wrong if you know better.

No.

You'd be lucky if it reaches 4.4

I mean he's not wrong but I know what you mean since he recommends pooga which is worse than rtx
Anything more than 4.2 is lottery

It's supposed to hit 4.25ghz without OC.

>$1200 for 10%

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ROG strix or SC gaming black 1070ti?

>1070ti

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And it's extremely hard to get it to budge.

It's factually true, worst price per frame than previous gen. And they pushed this RTX memes for idiots to justify the crazy price premium.
That being said 2080ti fucking shreds 4k gayming.

Is a $200 1800x worth it? Wrapped in box

I'm looking at one but it's supposed to be worse in games than 2600x.

Is 300europesos new TR1900x worth it?

Can't you get 60fps with a 1080ti in 4K already? With the right proc and ram that is.

yes

>Can't you get 60fps with a 1080ti in 4K already?
Some games yeah with a single 1080ti you can pull around 60-ish. 2080ti manages to pull around 90-100fps in a surprising amount of games.
Nvidia are fucking idiots, they should've revealed the most impressive performance results in numbers and not only giga rays and hype would've been a lot bigger and a lot more positive. Instead of "RAY TRACING IN 0 GAMES FOR $1200!!!!" they should've marketed it as "100FPS IN 4K GAMING but also ray tracing ONLY FOR $1200!!!"

What? Quick rundown. I'm about to order.

2080 has only 8GB VRAM and 2080ti is expensive as fuck

Maybe in the short term it's like you said.
But if they pull this off and manage to make RT spread in the market it will make more sense to shill it that way. Who knows, maybe the next GTA will use Ray Tracing.

You're not gonna get the impact of all those extra frames when you're only using a 4k 60hz monitor though.

> only 8Gb
Of GDDR6, whatever that means.

Finally got my first adaptive sync monitor and it's kind of a revelation. Buying a non-adaptive-sync monitor for gaming now seems absolutely insane. You either turn off vsync and tear regardless of your framerate, or you turn it on and get enormous input latency. If you can even run the game at your native framerate- if it regularly dips below, it becomes a stuttering mess.

Why isn't this emphasised more? The OP here, for example, says that freesync should be "considered" and that adaptive sync is important "for slower monitors". As far as I'm concerned it's now a non-negotiable minimum requirement.

Speed isn't going to matter when textures fill up the capacity and your frames tank

Does freesync work with Nvidia?

2080 cant even get 60fps on 1440p so adaptive sync is unnecessary

Freesync=AMD
G-sync=Nvidia
But there is an unofficial workaround if you're willing to buy a spare AMD card to handle output: github.com/pinumbernumber/SetGPU

Memes aside, situations where you can almost but not quite reach your native refresh rate are the perfect use case for adaptive sync. E.g. 50fps is going to be terrible on a non-adaptive 60hz display no matter what you do, but works perfectly if freesync/gsync kicks in.

>maybe the next GTA will use Ray Tracing
Most likely, since a lot of upcoming 2019 games will include some form of ray tracing. But the thing is, by that time we will have 2180ti with 32 giga rays per second and possibly at a cheaper or at the same price point. It's kinda stupid to market the first gen of a product when there is no implementation whatsoever.

There are a couple 4k 120+ hz monitors out there, but they cost $2000+ so... yeah.

if you get gsync on a 60hz display you are literally retarded

I know the monitors exist but realistically no one is using them given the price tag and the fact that once more demanding games come out you're going to need constant gpu upgrades to justify the purchase.

It makes sense at 4K, especially when you keep in mind that you probably won't be holding a constant 4K60 in most games.

At less than 4K... having it is still better than not having it, but I agree that the gsync tax makes it a questionable value proposition. Freesync 60-75hz displays are much more reasonably priced though.

>you're going to need constant gpu upgrades to justify the purchase
But that's the whole point. And there are a lot of whales who buy 2080tis and 4k 144hz monitors on release and then buy lootboxes in battlefield and then they will buy the next fresh tech and more lootboxes in battlefield 2 and the cycle never ends.

PLEASE RESPOND user

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How much more for a 1080ti? 8GB is shit

$200-$300 more

8gb GDDR5 at that, and not glorious 11GB GDDR5X

Depends on what you're expecting to achieve with it and how much you'll pay to reach it then.

1440p 60fps

>2080ti
>bad performance for value
well technically it is but considering it's as good as a titan v for 1/3 of the price i'd say that's pretty good, still not gonna buy it thought.

A quick rundown on Zen 2 and 9th Gen Intel?
With RTX20** out in a matter of days, what will be AMD's answer? Any price decrease planned/expected?

Is there a noticeable difference between m.2 and regular ssd speeds?

maybe

no

yes

MSATA? no. Not worth it unless you absolutely need space.
NVMe? yes. But $/Mb ratio is shit.

I cancelled. I'm going to buy a 1080Ti on Black Friday

>Motherboard asrock h81m-vg4 r2.0
>CPU intel pentium g3250 3.20ghz
>Ram 2x4 gb ddr3 cheap garbage
>GPU Geforce GT 720
What do you think of this badboy? It’s my first PC i built about 3 years ago.

Gonna do an 8700k micro atx build in this. Probably keep my 1070 and get a 1080ti during holiday sale.

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Love this case, but 120€ with nothing, or 180 with a hub, a node and two 120mm LL seem too much.
Also, such bitches to put 120mm on 140mm slots just to make you pay more.

I'll eventually make a similar build. 4x120mm intake, 2x140 exhaust.

is this exact card worth $300 new?
>MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GT

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I asked this question before but I forgot to clarify something.
I have to drives and bought a third drive this time an ssd. I want to put my os on it. But I can only plug in 2 satas to my mobo at a time. I have large programs installed on the drive I want to keep but the os is on the other one. How would I migrate windows?
If I unplugged the one I wanted to keep with the programs and other files, then used its slot for the ssd to migrate, would the os on the ssd still have the install paths on the larger hdd

No. You can get an RX 580 (faster in DX12) for less ($250). Even if you're dead set on Nvidia, there are cheaper 1060s than that.

9th gen Intel will be out next month, the 9900k is the only thing worth buying

If you want 6-cores then the 8700k

BUT IT'S SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE!

Good MoBo for an i7-8700k/1080ti? Not interested in overclocking, audio quality is important to me, and price is a factor.

Go for a poopy mobo and buy a good internal or external sound card if audio is your concern.

If you can't afford the 9900k then just stick to the 2700

There's a leaked benchmark that shows an OC'd 2700X is still slower than a regular stock 9900k

The 9700k is trash, it has no hyperthreading and comes with 8 less threads, just get a 2700X if you can't afford $450 to buy the 9900k

I can get the aorus 3 for 100, any reason to go for the 5 or 7 over it?

I'm totally out of the loop. Why is everyone recommending AMD for CPU now? Someone fill me in. I just created a parts list around an Intel CPU and I'm wondering if that was a mistake. Parts list if anyone wants to give feedback (first custom build, don't go easy on me)
pcpartpicker.com/list/rqC49J

>1060
Trash

Just buy RTX

if youre serious about audio quality then youll be getting a usb dac in which case you can get any old mobo

would help if you gave more info on what youll use the pc for
that graphics card could be plenty or shit depending on your current/planned monitor and resolution
amd gives more bang for buck and if oc'd (assuming you will if youre buying the 212) it bridges the performance gap somewhat compared to their intel counterparts
also the am4 platform is expected to stick around for a while so theres one less part to buy later on

Thinking of rewarding myself for recent accomplishments.
Is it worth upgrading from a 980 ti to a 1080 ti?
Is the 1080 ti expected to lag behind in performance rapidly with the release of the new RTX cards?
The upgrade will also likely involve a new tower and possibly monitor, but that's not immediately important.

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Sorry, should have said that I only have 2 1080p 60Hz monitors. Also the only game I play 99% of the time is Old School RuneScape which is single threaded and doesn't utilize the GPU at all. I'm not really a gamer, I'm just getting a GPU because I want to be able to play recent games on moderate-good settings in the rare event that I may want to one day.

The most important thing for me is to be able to do a lot of multi-task without lag, 30+ tabs and a couple of programs

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see

What graphics cards enable me to game at 1440p at 144hz?

in that case you should definitely go the ryzen route as you get more cores/threads for way less money
i5/i7 excels in gaming and ryzen in productivity (generally speaking)
1060 is plenty for games at 1080p

if youre willing to tweak retarded ultra settings down to sane options, a 1080 is fine with a 1080ti providing heaps of headroom if you can stretch the budget
vega 56 with an oc if youre using a freesync monitor

I have a i5 4590. Is there a reason Id need to upgrade my cpu?
Thinking of getting ai 1060 gpu if prices ever drop, or even something like a 270 if rtv isnt a meme. Would the cpu hold me back. To my knowledge, most programs are only meant for dual cores and games are just now starting to use 4 cores.

Got it, so a 2080ti

ryzen + pay for osbuddy pro so u can use opengl til jagex finally releases it themselves

anyone know where I can find a 1060 been for about $200?

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r8 and h8, also please recommend me a case. Budget is $700.

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>1080 TI asus ROG stryx
>Z370 prime A
>I7 8086 delid
>16 GB 3200
>1 TB SSD crucial
>3 TB HDD
>1440 165 hz monitor
>F750D case
>H150 I pro cooler
Liquid metal, did I do good?

Anyone have info on Zotac 1060 6gb Amp?
Thinking of snagging a 1060, could get a Palit Jetstream too but it's like 40 bucks more expensive

even that wont get you ultra settings 1440p 144hz in newer releases

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something from fractal under your budget
meshify/define series are nice
phantek entoo/nzxt h500 are pretty nice too

Really? It seemed like it would.

I haven't seen anything about the i9 series, is it not out yet? Also what's the best performing processor right now?

Go back to rs3 you fag

Is doing a custom water cooling loop difficult? I want to try water cooling for my next build but I'm not sure what I would water cool besides the CPU and graphics card, both of which can be bought with radiators attached.what guides out there are good for this?

playable? definitely
144 fps? yeah nah
wait for 2180ti if you MUST have all ultra settings on current games
>but then current games at that time wont run at ultra settings so youre back at square one

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Ryzen 2600(x)
Msi b450 tomahawk
Ditch cooler
Ram is fine
Ssd is fine
Could get a cheaper card or look at evga
Psu should be fine

This will be 5m please, nge w27

maybe dip your toes in wc with an aio solution?
its not terribly difficult to install an open loop if you can use simple hand tools
plenty of guides on youtube for watercooling, gamers nexus' channel would be my recommendation for anything hardware related

dont need cooler if not gonna be oc'ing
1060 is fine for 1080p gaming
switch to ryzen 2600 and b450 mobo if you wanna save a shitload of money since they fare well in productivity and still completely adequate in gaming

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so annoying how windows forces you to restart the PC every other day in order to install updates
how do i disable this shit?

I already have the 1080ti, got it from a miner on the cheap and now I'm looking to build around it.

replied to wrong post, meant to be

Rate my shit famalam, it has 2 Xeon 5150, 16gb ddr2 server ram, ATI 5770, 800w psu, 500gb hard drive, no original ram and chassis fan and barely runs csgo :^)

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go back in time and not install win10

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its almost alien seeing a psu mounted above the mobo nowadays

msi geforce gtx 1060 6gt oc new for 259 euros worth? currently cheaper than any other 1060 card because of a sale

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When the Athlon 240GE available?

Looks ghetto as shit with that fan o the RAM - get a stronger fan for the case's back

3gb, also low tier model i guess

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>ti cards have lower clock speeds than their non-ti counterparts
why?

More VRAM?

More Cuda units?