Long term Iphone user, why is the general consensus on this board that Androids are better devices despite your hatred towards google?
What would be the advantage of buying an Android if I dislike google?
(Dislike Iphones currently due to obvious reasons)
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For fuck sake:
Because the minute you buy an Android device, you can debloat it if you're smart enough. No Google bullshit, no Chinese shit and no Samshit.
I'm actually starting to consider an iPhone my next phone around. Seeing the new iPhone 10s Max makes my heart kind of hurt for it. I have really big hands and it's been why I haven't been buying iPhone but I have the bezels just as much because of large hands. But the XSMax has a huge screen for media and Apple is pretty decent about putting.
Overall there are just some things we can't avoid. Companies will collect our footprint whether we like it or not. They'll always somehow end up using any data we create for their statistics and research and while it does bother me, it can't really be helped all that much. :/
Because they offer vetter value and performance. iPhones use to be good but that's not the case anymore.
debloating voids warranty
whereas apple's apps are actually useful, updated and accepted by non-virgins.
>What would be the advantage of buying an Android if I dislike google?
emulators
>debloating
Not with Google, OnePlus or Xiaomi phones. You're free to unlock the bootloader, root or install custom ROMs and still keep your warranty.
Not in the EU
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>Does rooting your device (e.g. an Android phone) and replacing its operating system with something else void yourstatutory warranty, if you are aconsumer?
>In short: No. Just the fact that you modified or changed the software of your device, is not a sufficient reason to void your statutory warranty. As long as you have bought the device as a consumer in the European Union.
I can do more on android, are you retarded?
Because poorfags are bitter
You eat poor people? What are you, brazilian?
Seems Apple have a much better privacy policy if that's what you are concerned about.
First off, Google and Apple are shit.
Now, if you want to get a listening device, it depends on your technical knowhow which is the lesser evil:
>tech illiteralte normalfags
get an iphone, it spies, but less than anndroid
>techies
get an android and configure it to spy less, hack around in termux, run free software from fdroid or replace android with a botnet free rom
Still the best solution is not owning a smart phone.
In what way?
They collect BSSIDs and GPS data for their network location service.
consumerist.com
They neglected fixing a security vulnerability for three years so law enforcement could use it as a backdoor. Who says they don't the same with iOS?
telegraph.co.uk
They also have a backdoor to remotely wipe phones.
telegraph.co.uk
Apple proposed integrating the fingerprint scanner into the screen so you can't use the phone without giving away your fingerprint.
theguardian.com
Apple collects all your call history.
theintercept.com
We had the fappening happen because it uploads all your images to iCloud. It even sends the files to the cloud without asking for permission.
theguardian.com
Most iCloud data and some data from passcode-locked devices can be provided.
arstechnica.com
Google still spies more. I don't even need sources fir this. It's literally their business model. Google is the mother of the botnet.
Value, why get an overpriced fisher price toddler phone that needs lagtunes for access when you get get something better for half the price?
oneplus 5T:
>$500
>faster performance
>8GB RAM/128GB Internal
>3,300 mAh battery (0-60 in 30 min)
>~1080p amoled screen
>dual 16MP cameras
>rarely overheats and thermal throttles
iPhone X:
>$1,000
>slower performance
>3GB RAM/64GB Internal
>2,717 mAh battery (0-40 in 30 minutes)
>~1080p amoled screen
>dual 12 MP cameras
>constantly overheats and thermal throttles
Somebody reel in the scat porn please
Really, do you have anything to back that up? Because to me they both collect a lot of "telemetry" on you but at least on android you can disable most if not all of it. On iPhone you can't do much except jailbreak it and expose it to a huge magnitude of patched 0-days like webm related.
> why is the general consensus on this board that Androids are better devices despite your hatred towards google?
Better operating system.
Better ability to choose your software, including heavily manipulated OS. And the ability to go full open sauce.
Better deal for the phones, you get more per dollar if there are monetary constraints.
Better phones on the high-end most of the time if there are no monetary constraints.
whoops forgot
You can’t even view webm in safari
KYS, what's the matter?
Does that happen on the latest iOS version? Because we can update, unlike Android shit.
If you get an iPhone, don't install Google maps or any Google shit, they'll track you worse than if you had Android.
Apple wouldnt give a back or front door to the FBI.
Simple: poor people need to defend Android because they can't afford iPhones.
Why do you think that iOS marketshare is bigger the richer the country is?
Why do you think that iOS market share in the US is close to 50%, but close to 1% in India?
Android doesn't have glaring holes like this though.
Literally every single Android attack counts on the user clocking through 3 different security prompts and agreeing to giving his phone cancer
> that drugs part
I don’t really think that a good thing
>android
> Android doesn't have glaring holes like this though.
of course not.
because it's not on youtube, it doesn't.
NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT ANDROID SECURITY.
>you can debloat it if you're smart enough.
>following on-screen instructions means you're smart
kek
Not in countries that aren't america
Did I strike a nerve?
LMAO
>7.0
Wtf? Is this an LG?
> pajeet bricks his phone installing custom roms
> runs crying to the retailer that the phone is broken and begging for a replacement
degoogled android leaves you with shitty apps and ruins functionality.
Yeah but we still get updates, even ancient phones like the galaxy S5 still get updates. We may not get the latest android ROM but the updates are still there.
>They'll always somehow end up using any data we create for their statistics and research and while it does bother me, it can't really be helped all that much. :/
Unless you opt out of smartphone use.
>iOS
Better or similar hardware for a lower price
More customizability
Not locked behind applel'e walled garden, you can download apps from many places, and use it completely without gApps
Being able to flash your own rom
And pretty much else is covered in what I said above (water protection, SD and Headphone jack support, apps like greenify that help control the active and background apps, Haven that lets you literally use your phone as a security camera, etc.)
Why wouldn't you buy and android? Thats the question you should be asking
What reasons do you have to stay with IOS
I'm gay.
>actually believing the stunt
This cellebrite must be pissing their pants laughing along with all the feds monitoring this thread.
My phone works fine degoogled and I can still use most apps.
more like SEETHING
wow u mad lol
He's pathetically attempting to falseflag to justify his terrible financial decision. All of my family members have iPhones on a lease and whenever anyone tells them anything bad about them they mutter "muh privacy, muh apps, mug logo".
Android cucks are some of the angriest people I’ve ever come across
lol
Yes, keep posting bullshit you find online from sources that are basically Google/Samsung lapdogs.
>can't retort with any substantiated claims proving otherwise
>"f-f-fake news ;_;"
The alternatives for Google maps, docs, calendar etc are inferior though.
iPhone SE for 288 eurobux was a top tier financial decision user
Doesn't matter
For what it's worth, and as a small example of even the debate between big corporations, the reason BMW only has Apple CarPlay available and doesn't allow Android Auto is because Google wanted ALL the data. All of it. So much that BMW told them no and gave a no strong enough that it's now 2 years later and they still won't have Android Auto. Google refused to negotiate. Apple is certainly getting some data but I guess they at least kinda understood a bit. I mean, considering you're taking the smartphone in the car with you and it's tracking you wherever you go, what's scary, to me, is how much more data could there possibly be available to even get? I don't know. Again, take that for what you will just as an example, but as far as I know BMW told Google, essentially, "fuck no dude, are you fucking crazy?"
>you can debloat it if you're smart enough. No Google bullshit, no Chinese shit
this is a lie
these tests are garbage
unironically considering replacing my SE with a higher capacity SE if there's no SE2 planned
the posters of Jow Forums have no lives, so they can afford to sit around and tinker with their phones until they're perfect or near-perfect. they value malleability over simplicity. Android is perfect for tinkering, and so Jow Forums likes Android.
just buy the phone you like best. no one actually cares except for the special autists on this board
who actually has 6 phones side by side like this. stupid test
What about this one. Or do you think a 2 minute gookbench test is 99.999999% more accurate than this?
Wtf is paltalk and aol?
see
I got mine for $100 and it's fucking great.
I'm considering keeping it forever if they don't come out with an SE 2
pathetic samefag shill
so this thread is telling me:
android has the larger appstores with more ways to load apps (sideloading)
apple fones are overpriced for comparable hardware technology
that's all i got. what else is there?
Iphones have a 2 year life cycle whereas androids are 1 year
Apple is moving towards making iphones even more durable too.
when u say "life cycle" what is that referring to exactly ?
do they die after a year or 2 or do you mean planned OS updates? or is it something else
some androids are overpriced too.
that's a laughable assertion
the bezelless meme is only going to make phones more fragile
Why does every thread like this evoke the "I've used android for years but I'm getting sick of it" and the "yes, user, man the switch" responses? That's all I fucking see anymore. Go argue on /spg/
retailer resets the software, phone is work
hard brick
Iphones are generally supported with updates for at least two years, Androids are lucky to get even one update
Also there is no argument in build quality, Apple wins hands down.
Consider the fact that when an iphone screen breaks or the battery gets worn out, it can be easily repaired either by yourself or by one the many trained technicians at Apple stores across the country. When an Android phone breaks, you throw it away and buy a new one.
0/10 terrible bait
>buy ipwn
>it first bootloops then detonates
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fuck, you got me
>build quality
>apple
pick one and only one
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>implying this is not b8
Iphones aren't the only phones that blow up you dumb nigger.
I've had a few androids with bootloop issues too.
You can permantly rip the hardware by fucking around with the software? Honestly didn't know that, how does that work?
iphone have like 4-5 yrs of software updates
androids have 2-3 yrs
desu no one actually cares about updates after the first year
>implying this shit doesn't happen every day with lagdroid
Right but stop misleading people to believe apple has better build quality, if anything they have worse. The only difference is they have more hush money than chink manufacturers.
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Then why is the galaxy S4 I own getting updates?
lineage os doesnt count
>desu no one actually cares about updates after the first year
I DO
>iphone have like 4-5 yrs of software updates
but realistically only 2 years before it gets bloated and slows down
Do you work for Google or something? Find me a new Android with a glass screen and CNC machined aluminum body for $140 or less
If Apple has so much hush money than why do all these articles exist you dumb nigger?
Samsung is the exception, not the rule.
>chinkshit
android security is an oxymoron
never listen to anyone on Jow Forums when it comes to phone security advice
there's a reason all those criminals who use android are in jail and the ones with an iphone are all scott free.
but the new ios update made phones run smoother.
>i don't listen to the security researchers who all use ios and apple because they have better security
>i use google products because eric schmidt said android was more secure than ios and despite a giant room of professionals laughing at him, I chose to listen and believe
wow, very brave of you.
wrong, apple devices regularly get 5-6 years of support whereas most android devices get one and it's very, very late.
Really?
brb updating phone
>long time iPhone user
>get X during launch
>buggy af
>switch to Note 8 for 6 months
>buggy af, but somehow worse
>pre-order XS and can't wait
>probably will be just as buggy, but with iMessage
>most android devices get one and it's very, very late.
That or the manufacturer just says fuck you and refuses to send out that update they promised and tells you to buy a new phone.
Ive been using iPhones since the 4S and I kind of hate the X. I have an 8 now. I don’t like the notch, I don’t like the bezel rim, and I don’t like the lack of a headphone jack. I haven’t gotten used to the design like fanboys said I would.
I think Samsung is kicking their ass on hardware design right now, it’s not even close imo.
So when it’s time to upgrade I may go droid, but it would be like starting over.
Better hardware, better applications, open source software repos like F-Droid. I can transfer files between my phone and any Windows or Linux PC with no extra shitware like iTunes. I can choose from dozens of music players that can play a wide variety of audio formats, I can use YouTube clients like NewPipe, I can block ads systemwide. I also get way better battery life.
I've also opted to install an entirely new OS on my phone (Lineage OS) that has no Google shit installed. I'll never go back to using iTurds. Apple devices are locked down pieces of shit. You can get more flexibility and options from a $20 flip phone.
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doesn't seem hard to fake a video like this (record 6 attempts, then unlock, then film 6 more). also with ios12 external devices no longer get USB data access if the phone has been locked for more than an hour, so such an attack would only work in theory for a short time window.
Unfortunately that isn't an option for me.
Not a complete lie! I've tried it with older phones and it's easy to get by without Google shit everywhere. But it IS close to impossible without ruining a good chunk of functionality, so it gets harder over time when you could have just used Google. Shitty situation the tech industry is in, unfortunately.