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Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL work >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
That GPU shouldn't be loud at all. It has a really oversized cooler on it and IIRC can disable fans individually. Something must be wrong. How much power is it drawing when it's loud? Fan speed? Does fan speed actually seem to be correct?
I'd say you could get an Artic cooler put on it, which is quiet even at near max RPM, but it sounds like you have greater problems than that. But yes you can passively cool a 2400G with something like a Thermalright Macho.
The Mbest 1440p 144hz IPS is only a bit over $300. Not much more than TN panels yet a fuckload better. Pretty much the only monitor considering around $200-$350.
Made this budget build for a friend. He's after a build that is under £600. It only needs to run games around the era of Fallout New Vegas for 1080p 60fps and older (E.g. the newest game he would want to play is GTA V but that's not mandatory)
Jaxson Ramirez
>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots Kys shill
That's way too much money to pay for a 1050Ti. I don't understand why people think that card is nearly RX570 equivalent when it's more like only maybe 65% as powerful yet costs so much. 1050Ti should be ~$125 USD or equivalent.
Maybe get the Bazooka mATX board instead and a cheaper mATX case to save around 30 bong there. PSU seems expensive as well. You can get the L5 LITE 3D 480Gb for 80 bong which is a much faster SSD than the A400 and probably enough storage for FONV plus porn mods and just drop the HDD.
Are you sure the 2400G iGPU alone isn't enough for those games, too..? Should check some youtube videos on them. Do they have to be run maxed?
Cameron Edwards
>9900k is up for preorder on a few US sites
How soon can we expect a launch?
Isaiah Hughes
I love how vega is the 2nd best card AMD always wins baby.
Angel Thomas
I want a GPU that can drive 2 or more 4k displays for relatively low cost. I'm not very interested in PC gaming, I'm looking to build a workstation with a 2700X. Vega 56? 64? Or is there some lower-end or enterprise GPU I should be considering?
Jaxon Lopez
Very soon.
With Intel's 14nm+++++++++++ shortages its best to secure a preorder now while its still at SRP. It can easily balloon to $500+ and at that point so why not a Threadripper 2?
The leaked benchmarks already show it blowing an overclocked 2700X and beating up a 7900X at stock.
If you still haven't decided, you don't need a 9900k and should just stick with the 2700X or 8700k.
Owen Jones
Would an NH-L9x65 be better than a Wraith Spire?
Xavier Clark
Look here1070 or 56 are the only 2 cards worth buying.
Ian Phillips
Why not just get a 2400G? Do you need more than 8 threads? Just make sure you get a board with outputs which support 4k@60. I think the Mortar has both HDMI and Displayport out. There are embedded boards which have outputs for 4x 4k@60. Otherwise, an RX550 or RX560 with, again, the proper outputs. All "EyeFinity" AMD cards support 6x 1920x1200 or 4x 4k@60 minimum. You do not need Vega for that. > Or is there some lower-end or enterprise GPU There is something like the WX 1700 which is an RX580, single slot, and with pro drivers. If you're just using it for display, it's quiet. There is probably an RX550 workstation version... idk.
Only slightly better, I think.
Luis Smith
What is the lowest possible power consuming second hand pc that can run League of Legends at 25fps, yes 25. Around ~200$
Are there any good CPU coolers under $55 or should I bump up my budget a bit more?
Jordan Jackson
>Cheapest 1080 TI (non-reference/mini) = $650 >Cheapest 2080 = $790 >20% price increase for 5% performance KYS Nvidiot
Owen Russell
Just spend $100 more for a 2200G build. You'll spend 50% more money but gets 2x better performance than some trash $200 used pc.
Yes, plenty. Cryorig H7. Bequiet Pure Rock. Hell there's even decent ones under $20 like Artix, GAMMAXX, though not as good as those.
Performance increase is even only 5% in cherry picked games. Test the usual games Nvidia made people test against Vega and it's more like -5%.
Xavier Anderson
1%*
Zachary Gomez
Am I the only one who really wants to buy into the full RGB meme from corsair? It just looks so satisfying
Josiah Torres
> RGBT rainbow mode The only good looking one is the LL series and does not have profile memory. So everytime you turn your shit on it will be desynced rainbow crap. Oh and you pay twice the price. If you wanna go RGayB go for ML series and buy a Commander Pro. Still expensive af.
Christopher Young
Hell no, you're not the only one. It's just that these threads are full of boomers who think it's a sin to want a good looking system, or only enjoy black boxes. My rig is corsair only where applicable, besides the AIO, just because NZXT's looks way better. All my peripherals are Corsair too. Their software is great and some of the things you can do look really good. Best thing about it is linking profiles to different programs, which lets you have program specific macros and lighting
Brandon Green
Nigga you gay. Whenever you play vidya, you watch the case or your screen?
I don't sit plastered to my screen all the time, no. I die, I take breaks. My PC is used for more than gaming, many applications where I catch glimpses of my PC. It's also not turned off very often. I'm not saying everyone has to like it, but people who do shouldn't be hated just cause they do.
Matthew Barnes
Or maybe us "boomers" have gone through the phase and realize that shit just looks ugly?
Justin Phillips
> please don't hate on me for paying twice the price for underperforming fans and 70$ more for a 6-slots controler just cuz it looks gud senpai > also I swear I don't suck massives cocks on a daily
Hudson Anderson
So? How does that change anything that I said?
>twice the price >Underperfoming fans >Commander for 70
Okay sweaty. I don't even have a commander pro, I only have peripherals and, ram and aio along with fans that aren't synced with the rest
Grayson Fisher
Do you plan on upgrading to Zen 2?
Julian Kelly
Cope.
Daniel Baker
I /prog/ and game but my PC is a monolith with filters. You only buy RGB with customized colors and frequency, this way you can affect your own subconscious with color sequences to decrease your thirst for cock.
Colton Hall
Probably not immediately.
Justin Garcia
>he like what I don't >he gay
Based and redpilled
Joshua Wright
What monitor do you have?
Caleb Thompson
I have a 1440p 60hz Asus monitor. I plan to get a 144hz monitor and use my current one as a secondary monitor.
Evan Sanchez
>2200g >35tdp Looks interesting, how would a build about it look like?
John Perez
Then you're gucci
Lucas Cox
Gotcha. Good to know I didn't mess up my list.
Cooper Garcia
Here is my build purely for gaming at 1080p and 144hrz.
>AMD Ryzen 5 2600 179,90€ >Asus Socket AM4 PRIME X470-PRO 180,73€ >G.Skill DDR4 RipJawsV Red 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz CL14 225,08€ >SSD Crucial MX500 500GB 92,53 € >Fractal Design Define S 74,82 € >SeaSonic Focus Plus 750 Gold 99,00 € >Cooler Master AMD Ryzen AM4 Upgrade Kit 1,00 € (going to use a 212 evo) 853,06 In total. I plan to OC CPU the thing to 4.2GHz and get a 1080ti couple months later.
Parker Scott
Call me stupid but I don't see a gpu in there
Oliver Martin
>didn't read the entire post
Jaxon Rivera
pcpartpicker.com/list/QvWpV6 Cheaper, same speed RAM Better SSD Good, fully modular PSU Better mouse (sensor) Decent, clean case with 2 fans
Samuel Hughes
how's this look for my first build? I already own the drives and just bought the gpu for $140 plan on dualbooting windows for gaming and linux for everything else (inb4 linux dead) I'll mostly use it for playing older games with graphics mods like morrowind and kotor 2, emulation, and occasionally newer games will probably pick up a nice freesync monitor and some better hard drives around black friday
Why would you add in the cooler? Wtf man use the money to buy 1 step up
Isaac Carter
A 1080ti was only mentioned "couple months later" Is the PC not gonna get used until then? In that case, sure, it's an okay build
Use the stock cooler or another aftermarket one if you really wanna OC hard. No point in paying 50$ for that Wraith
Jackson Jackson
>Is the PC not gonna get used until then? It' means I either have something to hold me over or as you said it wont be used or what ever. I mean I realize people are retarded but you can't assume that people literally forgot to have a GPU of any kind to use.
>sure, it's an okay build Is there a way to make it a better build though is the question.
Grayson Barnes
just put it there to get the voltage I'm not actually buying it since comes with it
Mason Young
>voltage meant power consumption
Bentley Murphy
A noob could do that with the belief that all Ryzens had igpu's just like Intel. Or confused it with APU's. When it comes to making it better I feel like paying more for mobo than CPU is retarded, otherwise it's just about perfect imo
Nathaniel Miller
>corsair psu No
Jose Butler
Try something like this on Newegg. It's yuroprices, so count VAT and the import tax out. I'd say around 350$.
Motherboard seems like a waste when you can OC to the same amounts as 120-140 EUR mobos. 650W more than enough. I'd upgrade to something stronger than 212 if it doesn't work out for you, Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B costs 44.90 and is similar to N-D15 in terms of performance/noise. All of those parts are cheaper in DE shops if that's available to you.
Blake Roberts
RMx are decent PSUs, what are you talking about?
Cameron Barnes
Seasonic or bust.
Charles Sullivan
>Are there any good CPU coolers under $55 or should I bump up my budget a bit more? >not buying /ourcooler/, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 POWER for slightly less than DH15 performance at half the price
Alexander Walker
Get a better board htan the PC mate. Get a better model GPU than that Gigabyte one like an XFX or Sapphire. Or Red Devil if it's on sale. PSU is much larger than you need; 450W would be fine and 650W huge overkill. That cooler is bad value. You may as well just get a 2700X which has it included. Get a nicer case. Like Q300L with a mATX board.
That's so GPU bottlenecked. Yes, sometimes AMD CPUs are worse in a GPU bottlenecked situation because of driver overhead. That's very unrepresentative though because the 2400G iGPU on low settings get 200fps in dota fine.
pcpartpicker.com/list/jTmtNQ $342 so a bit over. I'm really not a fan of having an SSD smaller than 240Gb, though. And 2200G and PSU prices aren't as great as they have been in the past.
But that's a 4core overclockable CPU, and if you overclock the iGPU it's just a bit behind the 750Ti. It's a good platform to upgrade from, unlike how some used $200-$300 PC wouldn't be.
William Perez
what's wrong with pc mate?
Ethan King
Also well, I would recommend the 2400G more. Sometimes they're on sale for like $130. It will bottleneck a lot less if you ever add a dGPU to it.
Just a bad quality board. The lot of MSI's 300 series boards had issues. They improved things a lot with 400 series boards.
Gabriel Johnson
Don't listen to this retard >Motherboard seems like a waste when you can OC to the same amounts as 120-140 EUR mobos. Your mobo is fine. Don't cheap out on motherboards if you're going to OC. >650W more than enough No, I run the same rig as you except deduct one generation and put in a 1080 instead of a 1080ti. I use a 650w seasonic focus plus gold and I have a little bit of headroom out of my 650w since I overclocked my 1600 to 3.9ghz @ 1.35w. Go to any PSU calculator. >I'd upgrade to something stronger than 212 if it doesn't work out for you, Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B costs 44.90 First, don't be a faggot and get a 212. The 212 performs the same as the first gen wraith spire, which came stock with the 1600 processors. Unironically get or the DH15 for 2c reduction in temperatures.
Levi James
1.35v >The lot of MSI's 300 series boards had issues. This is true
>First, don't be a faggot and get a 212. I already have it, second it performs better than amds Prism, which is their high end for 2700x. I will absolutely use that over the stock coolers.
Nolan Thompson
I currently have the option of either getting 700€, or a Gigabyte Vega 64 OC. I can get a 1080Ti here from 670€, but most seem around 700€ to 800€. 2080 seems 850€ to 900€. I can get an Asus ROG strix Vega for 650€.
Should I take the money, or the Gigabyte card?
David Adams
Gonna have a relative in the US buy parts for a PC. When should I look for discounts on Amazon for Black Friday? Do I get them to order the parts on that day?
Lucas Wright
If you get the card new, get it and sell it. It's worth 900 in France so you can sell it up to 880.
Luis Gray
Why don't you want mATX when you aren't utilizing the additional low bandwidth PCI slots? Tomahawk is an ATX one. Or the A Pro.
Get Vega56 for gaming, not the 64. Clock-for-clock, they are the same, and they are unlocked. The Gigabyte Vega cards are fucking awful with a buggy cooling solution, though, and avoid them either way.
Joseph Richardson
I can buy that card new for 710€, I doubt I can sell it for more than that.
Ryan Perry
>The Gigabyte Vega cards are fucking awful with a buggy cooling solution, though, and avoid them either way. Okay, I think I'll just get the money then. I was planning on deciding on a card later anyway, see how the 2080's shake out in a couple of months.
Carson Evans
Oh it was a Vega STRIX, my bad.
Just bought a RX580 Nitro+ special edition for 230€($270) new, can someone tell me if it was a good deal?
It's better to spend 260€ for a Ryzen 2700 or 300€ for a Ryzen 2700x? I will not use it for gaming but for a deep learning workstation build and I don't plan to overclock it.
I am inclined to go with the latter since the Wraith Prism that ships with the 2700x is a better cooler than the Spire coming with 2700, thus I can save 30€ for a Cryorig H7, keep the Prism cooler and use the AMD's boost implementation for the cases when I need more CPU power.
What are you thoughts on this? Also note that I will not game a single minute on this build.
Aaron Wilson
anyone have experience with the LG 32GK850G-B 32" 1440p VA panel? I'm thinking about getting that over something like ASUS PG279Q 27" 1440p IPS but don't have any experience with VA.
Connor Stewart
I just want a goddamn rgb ssd, why can't I have one
Ryder Cruz
Is trying to "OC" RAM worth it, e.g. would CL17@2400 vs CL14@3000 make any real difference (without touching the CPU clock)? Am on Ryzen 7 1700. I am not gaming btw.
Yes the X is the best choice here. It's pre-OC'ed and as you said, has a better cooler. Don't know much about deep learning but you might want to head for a threadripper or an i9.
Nicholas Carter
fight me
Jack Young
Yes, while it's true that for only 100€ I could get a TR 1920X (12c/24t), I'd have to add 80€ for a Noctua TR4 cooler. A X399 board would cost 120€ more than a X470 one, so overall it would cost 300€ to go for a Threadripper build, which would have much better performance with reinforcement learning tasks.
Actually I'm torn between spending 300€ more upfront for better RL performance and more PCIe lanes, on the other hand I'd like to stay under the 1200€, considering a bundle deal on a GTX 1070 Ti.
Someone want to recommend me a build for 1080/1440 Inc monitor.
Alexander Ward
It is. It's on amazon, ebay ++ and so is the HyperX Fury variant. But no sellers in Norway, and every shop that sells online and ships to Norway has it waaay overpriced, and I have to pay 25% extra customs for anything above 35$ in Norway if it isn't from here.
I found some ssd covers that will do just fine, if not better though, so we good
Grayson Edwards
If you do that has a hobby I suppose you can endure longer loading times. If you plan to make some cash with it with youtube for example I suppose I can be worth the extra investment. I hope someone more knowledgeable will come to the rescue. Good luck yurobro.
Cooper Lee
>Buy 1080ti for higher price and wait on next graphics card 7nm
or
>Buy 1050ti for cheap and wait on next graphics card 7nm
I'll be running 1440p 144hz, which one? I feel I should get 1050ti and wait so I can have the extra money, but I also don't know if 1050ti is super duper awful on 1440p 144hz
How do you guys get Microsoft Office set up on your new builds? Having trouble finding a reliable source for mine.
Ethan Mitchell
i say cheap board and like a 2200g or something. whatever the cheapest ryzen is. as for ram its your call since it wont make a difference but if you lock into the board you lose and future benefits of x570
what games? 1060 6gb would struggle with 1440p 144hz outside of esports
yes. i did some benchmarks between running ram at 2400mhz, 3200mhz and 3666mhz (CL16, 14, 17 respectively). if you can push it its worth it
Jonathan Harris
That's a good deal for that card. One of the highest end models.
Market price has been $385-$400 for Vega56 weeks but he somehow picks out $430 for it here. HMM.
RX580 and 1440p 144hz Freesync. You won't get that framerate in much, but it does do around 60 in quite a lot and that's what Freesync is for. That Mbest and Pixio PX277h are nice.
John Harris
This or a rx580. 7nm cards will surpass 1080 for the price of a rx570/1050ti
I'll wait for those too and I need a screen. Will likely go 27" 1440p144hz freesync. my card won't handle 2k well. Can I fullscreen/borderless and use 1080p without performance drop?
Joshua Baker
>second it performs better than amds Prism, which is their high end for 2700x. Gib sauce. "The 212 is GOAT" is a holdover from back when stock coolers were absolute shit, and not just Intel's.
