Jow Forums is CS really one of the hardest majors threre is?

I am a freshman in uni and we have wrote a few basic programs but this stuff is super hard, half the class has dropped already and we have an exam coming next monday i don't think i will pass. I already failed my calc1 and physics exam last week, i thought CS was just programming wtf?!

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Maybe you're just a retard

Most universities have extra remedial classes for the harder stuff. Check it out, helped me a lot personally.

CS is computer science.
Algo, maths, complexity, data structure, etc.
You have shitty low-tier diploma to learn how to program.

I went to a very theory-based CS uni and it was a blast to only have passionate and inteligent people.
You could do the whole 5 years with writing less than 100k line of code which is really not much.

Dude stop smoking weed and actually try. Study. Calc 1 and Physics shouldn't be killing you this early. If you're outright missing prereqs (like you don't know algebra or whatever) then deal with that first.

CS was a lot easier than math and physics for me but I there are some people who have real trouble getting it. I don't know what the reason is.

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you might be the mongoid user.

>You could do the whole 5 years with writing less than 100k line of code which is really not much
I may have written 30k in the 8 years I've been studying

No.

physics in cs?

no it's one of the ultra brainlet tier majors
literally one of the easiest majors in any college

>failed calc 1
lol, i have to do fucking up to calc 3

dem quint mah man.
Not him but I had optional physics course too for two years and there was a bioinformatics master at my uni.
It really depends where you go.

if you can pass 2, i read that 3 is actually easier. even our professor said the jump from calc 1 to 2 is harder than calc 2 to 3

no, it just attracts a lot of retards. drop out and save the rest of us the trouble

Is calc 3 the last calc?

Not him but I'm in CS and I have to do up to 4. Cal 2 is killer, 3 is much easier. Not easy, but easier.

>Jow Forums is CS really one of the hardest majors threre is?

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what is 4? 3 is the last here i think

I don't know, I haven't finished 3 yet.

>failing calc 1
never gonna make it bro. just switch to MIS or your school's equivolent. its typically in the business school and its for brainlets that couldnt make it in engineering.

SOURCE: am brainlet MIS major and work as a dev at a small software company

Fellow MIS major. I enjoy getting a business education with some tech stuff. CS majors learn so much useless shit, as an MIS major at least you can learn useful stuff on your own that will make you employable. With the business side of it, you won't be a total autistic sperg lord that has no idea how the rest of the world outside of a computer works.

Stop complaining faggots. Yes, CS is hard, but it's not as hard as e.g. physics or pure mathematics (or chemistry - I don't know). You won't go far without some theoretical background. If you wanna just "code", you can learn it in your spare time.

>CS is hard
you guys don't know true suffering
t. mech. eng. student

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t. I like cocks in my anus

glad we can agree on that

You just sound retarded. I doubt they are teaching you anything hard in your first CS class. I got a D in calculus but even I was able to do well in the beginning with limits and easy shit like that. You should swap majors or drop out.

>applied math is hard

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I'm curious too
here 1 is differential, 2 is integral, and 3 is multivariable

I smoked a good amount of weed during my undergrad and it went fine. if you're a loser before you start smoking weed though youll just be a double loser.

It's easy, the only requirement is a dash of autism

In my Canadian uni

>1 is differential/single integrals
>2 is a ridiculous grab bag... indefinite integrals, sequences & series, divergence/convergence tests, partial derivatives, a bit of diffeq
>3 is multivariable

1 is the easiest because we cover differential calculus in HS, and it's pretty much review. 2 was pretty hard, just because of how random and varied the material is. 3 was pretty easy if you understand integrals in 1 dimension.

does smoking weed during undergrad have an effect on how good of a pajeet i can be in industry?

sweetie...

I dont know why you're asking here. No one on Jow Forums actually has a degree.

Nothing against weed really, I'm just saying that if anyone's failing Calc 1 they need to reexamine their life. That's a wake up call desu

Some unis have general requirements for the specific college.

>Freshman
>First CS class
>Super hard
>Half the class dropped out
Are you in fucking community college or something? The first semester is the easiest fucking shit. This has to be bait

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Should've taken all the bullshit classes in community college like everyone else with a brain dude. You're actually taking the hardest classes right now in all of CS. As for the programming class your professor just sucks. But CS is really hard for me but I'm a brainlet. I'm usually coding 8 hours a day to keep in my senior classes

Also I just realized you said you failed Calculus I already. Didn't the semester just fucking start? What the hell have you been doing these last few weeks, jacking off to tranny porn all day?

if you're failing physics and calc 1, calc fucking 1 of all things you won't survive the actual cs courses

The first semester is by far the easiest, especially the intro CS class. It's a goddamn general ed class for fuck's sake. Most schools purposely dumb it way down so normies can pass it.

Also currency a freshman at uni.
1. No, so far my course load is god damned easy
2. CS is much more than programming, especially if you want to get hired after graduating.
3. Unless your proffs are fuckoffs, you shouldn't struggle in calc 1, that shit's not hard. Worst comes to worst use internet resources to learn.
4. Suck it up, they have your money already, earn your keep!

As someone who did a degree in biochemistry and is now doing one in computer science, I can say that computer science courses definitely take more effort than any hard-science other than perhaps, physics and quantum chemistry.

CS is a subject that you have to love to enjoy. This is the reality of programming, you either love it or you hate it. CS is made to weed out the people that hate.

It's the easiest stem degree.

Still harder than everything else though.

Calc 4 usually is the differential equations class, though I don't usually see it named "calc 4" like the other 3 courses

yeah. I don't understand how people have so much trouble with calc 1 desu senpai

also, the normies don't drop first year, in my experience the normies who get into cs because they hear about the money in it get btfo by the time 2nd years is over

I love it but man fuck sitting in a chair for 8 hours

no you dipshit

>heat transfer
>difficult

What the fuck would your rather be doing? Digging ditches outside all day?

Calc, physics, chemistry, plus balancing the bullshit English and history classes is not easy. I can honestly say I spent more time in those first two classes than any other in my time as an undergrad.

I did CS, pure math and applied math and all I can say is pure math was the hardest. Engineering problems solved using applied math probably the easiest. Unless you mean "IT but let's call it CS", in which case you should retroactively abort yourself right now.

Why the fuck were you taking chemistry as a CS major? That was your first mistake right there, unless you're double majoring in physics

not him but my uni for cs/software engineering/computer eng/electrical eng usually needs first semester chemistry for some reason, I imagine it's the same elsewhere

I studied math and found it to be easier than CS.
Not intellectually easier, but CS required a ton more projects/busy work and I am lazy as shit. Math is maximum comfy as far as workload goes.

Mine requires physics w lab, I've seen most schools require one hard science sequence and then you're done, not two

>I already failed my calc1 and physics exam last week
Stop being such a mathlet

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t. Math cuck
congrats on your meme degree buddy.

Not him but I feel like if you fail calculus/physics in a regular 15 week semester, you either didn't study whatsoever or you're literally retarded

this, there was some girl at my uni who tried to pay me to take her math 101 exam. Mind you this math doesn't even count for credit and is several levels below college algebra, it is probably like first year highschool math or something.

>calculus 1 for bussiness career
>precalculus

lol ok buddy
I can have any job I want with my degree
also get 300k starting

nah our uni has different classes for those.

what are the standard weed out classes in cs/software?

>calc2
>circuits
>2nd year digital logic/computer architecture
>2nd semester physics
>data structures/algorithms

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>I already failed my calc1 and physics exam last week
Post pics? I want to see how hard they were

also
>operating systems
>compilers
>high performance networking
if your degree program isn't a joke

I did both the computer science and computer engineering majors at my school. Computer engineering was way harder, but that doesn't make computer science "easy" in any way.

If you're at a good school, CS is a highly variable difficulty major - you can take easy classes or you can make the major as hard as you want. I suggest the latter, it'll pay off.

>CS
>hard
lel. Hard is medicine and engineering. CS is where average people go. If even CS is too difficult for you, maybe you need to think about getting into a no-IQ-required major, like journalism or sociology.

What kind of classes do you think are really important to take? Is a masters something i could do if i can get it for free?

>CS is where average people go.
Doesn't it depend on the school?

At what point do people start getting out during Data Structures? There are so many fags in there that are on their fucking phones and watching fortnight on their laptops, yet can't even put together a simple program with fucking classes and objects.

medicine is pharma cucks that just give prescriptions.

No i smoked weed with every intern at my internship.

That applies to all majors.

literal retard

as expected from a tripfag

based

I am sorry if you feel hurt when people make fun of your sociology degree. And no thanks, I do not want fries with that.

physics is the hardest

Engineering math classes are literally watered down pure math courses for brainlets who can't into proofs. CS math is closer to pure math, so you're full of shit.

literal retard, I did software engineering and can say that looking at the course sequences, aside from some physics classes and some circuits classes, that cs is basically the same (cs has more algorithm and os classes)

CS math is almost junior high zero iq nigger math, thats why it is the biggest meme degree on par with sociology and poli sci.

wat
at my uni cs, computer engineering and software engineering all take the same math classes, namely calcs 1-3, discrete math, that's literally all the math they need to take

Serious question, did u even go to college?

same for me at asu

considering his retardation he probably went to college and not university

kek you go to uottawa?

>start with precalc in community college
>male professor shows more proofs and deriving than the female calc professor I had after her

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yeah, buddy! fellow alumni?

nah, 2nd year
CEG2136 such a retarded course, got it with groza and he just goes off on tangents

hoping this is all worth it in the end, I'm assuming you did software eng or cs right?

Every engineer major had calculus 1,2,3,lineal algebra,diff eq as basic math, but usually CS use very simple discrete math.

CS really hard part is people change from easy code exercises in afternoon or weekends to build thousands of lines code project in Operative systems,compilers,graphics computer a lot people just burn in tried finish projects in one week.

Ah cool. I just graduated in May. Hah, yeah I had him for Computer Architecture II. Honestly last two years I didn't even go to lectures. Most of the profs are terrible lecturers that just drone on over powerpoint slides. Not necessarily suggesting you do that 'cause I don't know how self-motivated you are, but that was my experience. Even though some aspects of Computer Architecture 1/2 are retarded as far as the course is run, they were actually some of the most fun and rewarding in retrospect. In I, you build an 8 bit computer in a lab on an FPGA and write a little program in machine code. In II you learn how to program a microcontroller in C/assembly. Tough, but pretty cool, desu.

I did CS + Math minor. As for worth it, I dunno yet. The job market for entry level here seems to be brutal. I have a 3.5 GPA, significant open source contribution, multiple personal projects, and so far zero callbacks except for the government. Might take that path, but the process is so slow I dunno when I'll get to an offer. Meanwhile, a Google recruiter just found me on LinkedIn and I'm starting the process there soon. I know it's tough to get in there, but who knows.

I'd say definitely do a co-op, I think that hurts me a lot. And network, someone told me Ottawa high tech is all networking, especially for entry level. The companies here also seem to value particular knowledge of various frameworks and libraries whereas the big guys seem to care more about general programming skill, which again, hurts me cause I don't know the latest and greatest webdev shit. If the gov job doesn't pan out, I'm gonna start looking outside the city, but it is comfy here and I'd like to stay.

Oh, and look for a job well before you graduate. I bought into the "CS is so easy to get a job right away" meme and focused on my studies rather than juggling a job search as well, and I'm figuring out first-hand it's not quite that easy. I think things will turn out okay, but just plan ahead.

>calculus 1,2,3,lineal algebra,diff eq,discrete math
I had to take all those and more, thought it was a pretty standard CS math curriculum

I got a Master's, wouldn't recommend if you're good.
Take all the operating systems classes available, distributed systems, algorithms (grad level), and practical development classes.

fuck man, I was in fucking health sciences for 2 years and then switched to cs so I don't qualify for coop anymore because of our unis retarded administration - either way I feel it's a good switch.

If you didn't do coop, did you not look for summer jobs after 2nd year?

Government jobs I hear are very comfy, but you don't work much in them so one could say you're wasting some of your potential (unless you goal is just a cushy govt job in the first place).

Didn't think it was brutal in ottawa, from what I hear people who manage to finish cs or software eng tend to get jobs as software developers pretty quickly, even people who finish computer engineering/electrical engineering tend to go into the software field - at least, this is what I hear all the time. I have a friend in carleton who just landed a 70k/year job at ross video, he did software eng and did 2 or 3 coop terms, each with the government. If you can stomach the commute, I hear kanata has lots of jobs.

Gonna apply like a madman to every internship posting for the summer.

calc 3 is calc 1 + 2 with multiple variables. You can consider differential equations sort of like a "calc 4" and jumping into an analysis sequence is learning how to build calculus formally from the ground up. There's not really a "last" calc, but typically calc 2 or 3 is the last required computationally-focused calculus course for compsci.

>fuck man, I was in fucking health sciences for 2 years and then switched to cs
Yeah similar boat here. Was in Chem Eng for 1.5 years, but I hated it so I switched. Same reason I couldn't do co-op. Nah, didn't look for summer jobs. I'm dumb. Honestly, looking back, I was pretty fucking depressed throughout uni. When summer came all I wanted to do was turn my brain off. I still did coding in my free time so I wasn't totally useless, but yeah.

Gov't jobs aren't known as fast paced places to work, but I did uni late. I graduated at 30, turned 31 recently. The stability, job security and pension appeals to me, and I'd like to start a family before I'm 40, so the thought of riding out my career there doesn't seem so bad, since I'm already like 10 years of salary behind someone who didn't fuck up their 20's.

I'm applying all over the city. Sent out like 50 resumes, and nothing other than the gov't postings. I bet that co-op made the difference for your friend. Get some experience, and you'll probably be fine.

Redpill me on CS interviews

How do you stop freezing up when asked to whiteboard a simple problem? I can do problems like that without trouble on my own, but its hard when an interviewer is watching over your shoulder