>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Set brand loyalty aside and look up benchmarks relatively to price and to what you're planning to do. Measure by how much % a change from intel to amd or vice-versa woud change the price of the whole rig and put it next to benchmarks relevant to you.
Isaiah Jackson
Literally who? Kek, what did I say? Releasing new gen for $20 more.
Brayden Sanders
I will have about $1500 just around Black Friday, is buying parts in that weekend worth it or should I wait?
Carson Johnson
availability in yurope?
Jordan Fisher
No matter how much MOAR COARZ intel does AMD will always pulverize intlel garbage.
Keep posting outdated pics Maybe you will b8 someone one day
Adam Jones
Keep crying bitch nigga
Joseph Nguyen
Bobs lasagna.
Jackson Reed
So is this general pretty much a /v/ hangout on an incorrect board? Hard to explain this amount of brainless fanboyism otherwise.
Joseph Morales
On a tight budget here: need a gta5/skyrimSE/fallout4 at 1080 med/high settings proof GPU. AMD is preferred, used cards ar a-okay for me, location is Austria. budget is
Ryan Gutierrez
If im considering a 2600X for gaming, does the new Intels give anything for that price with better performance?
Jason Green
Get a RX560 or 460 of cheaper.
Ryan Ward
Are you willing to sacrifice 6 threads for more money paid and slightly higher clockspeed?
Bentley Martin
We don't know yet, hold on a few days for benchmarks.
Hunter Diaz
R9 280X is faster than RX560 though.
Angel Anderson
9600k for $20-30 will probably shit on 2600x. Or else the locked i5s but they are not out yet.
Christopher Miller
the 560 is at about 100-150€, out of reach for now. 460 seems allright. does someone actually own a rx460 here for first hand impressions?
Juan Moore
The R9 280X has a better availability over here too, but has "only" 3GB, the 560 has 4GB. Much difference? Haven't bought a GPU since 2010, so I'm not exactly up to date about the requirements nowadays.
Hunter Torres
>9600k for $20-30 thats going to be $30-40
Ian Flores
He does not look for fast, but good enough to run his games in FHD. The RX560 runs GTAV in Ultra at around 60fps, costs half less than the R9 in my country, has low profile cards and is also AMD. Also, the 560 is cute af.
yall niggas said the 9700k would be about the same price as the 8700k, now im thinking of just going with amd even though i mainly want to play csgo which amd shits the bed with. does anyone know if the 2700x can get 200fps during peak stress at 1080p
>does the new Intels give anything for that price with better performance Nope.
Connor Allen
Not that different. Actually your games might only use 4GB ram at most.
I doubt it could run Skyrim in ultra though.
Robert Lee
> it's only 20 bucks bucko
Connor Ortiz
He wants to run medium/high so he will run it manolo. GTA in ultra is bonus.
Jason Clark
>8700k is $359 Not anymore lmao
Jacob Bennett
I don't even need ultra settings at all, give me a nice mix of mid to high settings and I'm perfectly happy. Hell, I still enjoy Morrowind graphics. I want it affordable and stable. Nothing too crazy. So theres nothing in the, say, 60 € range?
Lincoln Wood
>280mm radiator >can be positioned in 2 spots on front of case >rad/fans above the psu shroud >rad/fans bisected by shroud
Which position? Or should I just go for a 360mm which will take up the entire front? >i5 8600k to be as high as possible while stable
Video editing, maybe video games @ max settings, music production. Thoughts?
Caleb Kelly
Look for a used 750ti. Don't expect fireworks, but I had it and Skyrim ran fine on ultra settings 1080p/60fps, especially if you add some unobtrusive performance mods.
Wyatt Wood
You might need to look at used GPU, well if you could find used R9 280X for that price then go for it.
James Ward
>using water cooler
Jack Hernandez
Looks good, but if I'm being pedantic, you're skimping a bit on the case for a build that good. I'd get something more posh, but it's not that important.
Brody Long
Is a Cl16 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 Hynix kit a good choice for an r5 2600? The cheapest Cl14 kit is 90€ more expensive. I'd rather put that money towards a 2600x and a good air cooler.
Of course i'm looking for used cards, but the used marked here in austria (or in germany, for that matter) isn't that big, so availability is important.
Adam Rivera
Ryzen runs like shit without a Cl14 kit
David Reed
14 vs16 is a pretty significant difirince in games, about 15% higher fps.
Wyatt Edwards
You're talking about a very marginal performance difference. The CL14 will be easier to tweak but if you don't touch ram you won't need it.
Juan Reed
Kek, no. Sauce or you're a fag.
Joshua Peterson
Looked into the 750ti, prices are nice, around 55€, benchmarks seem good to me too (ta5 on high 1080p around 40 to 60 fps is allright in my book.)
Thanks, m8, you were very helpful.
Xavier Butler
You think that is competitive?
James Howard
Never
Jeremiah Flores
Yes
The 8700k is fast, has 12 threads while the 9700k has 8 cores, 8 threads and no HT
Christopher Foster
How often should I reapply my thermal paste? It's been a few years. Also, does anyone have that Gamer's Nexus webm? You know the one.
As a side note, I had one until very recently and Yakuza 0 ran 1440p60fps on high settings. GJ Sega.
Oliver Scott
Thing amd does better don't count
>15 year old game engine
Intel just rebranded coffee lake and skylake-x, except for the overpriced 8 cores literally nothing is new
Jaxon Johnson
i dont know anything about pc parts can someone explain why they lowered the thread count
Austin Sanders
You can get away with once every 3 years or so, but optimal is once every month or two, especially if you are overclocking, that should be the maximum time between replications.
Nicholas Bell
> on Hitman Find me an average of all games tested.
Angel Richardson
I was talking about the 9700k not 8700k
Aaron Green
>can I use ryzen without B-die RAM If you don't care about performance at all then yes. > I'd rather put that money towards a 2600x and a good air cooler. Welcome to using ryzen...
in general theres no difference, but for AMD cpus there is another factor, CL14 usually uses Samsung-B dies, CL16usually doesn't, which can be a massive difference in performance.
Carter Scott
>128 phases with liquid nitrogen cooler is a must for your ryzen
Levi Perez
seagate
Mason Bennett
Segmentation, more SKUs are better
If the 9700k had 8 cores and 16 threads they cannot justify selling the 9900k
Not sure why they don't have a 6 core, 12 thread part
Connor White
Literally kikery
Daniel Torres
Hitman bottlenecks Ryzen like crazy, of course faster bandwidth will help. Stop giving shit buying advice intelfag.
If I have a mobo that supports 3466MHz ram, will there be a noticeable difference between 3466MHz CL16 ram, and 3000MHz CL14 ram? Note both have almost identical true latency.
What if im using a Ryson and only the CL14 is B-die?
Elijah Sanders
>difference is only about 10 frames >even the minimum is basically 60fps Does it really matter that much?
Charles Smith
Is there anything inherently wrong with EVGA's SC Black cards? I noticed prices are starting to go down now somewhat and I noticed people are selling the Black cards cheaper than the other shit.
Isaac Nguyen
>did somebody imply anything less than complete satisfaction with an AMD product >sounds like I have to step up my game and shitpost all dissent
Isaac Wilson
Not everybody uses 60hrz monitors. Some people find real value in having 120/144 minimums.
Brayden James
Motherboards confuse me I'm looking to buy a 2700x, I'm planning on overclocking moderately, using one gpu and 16 gB ddr4 ram in the foreseeable future What's the cheapest that I can get away with that'll deliver what I'm looking for and won't fall apart after one year?
Parker Jenkins
Can someone explain why the fuck all benchmarks give the results as a bar plot (usually with only the 1% min and average, sometimes the median and 1% max as well) instead of a box and whiskers diagram?
On the high end, yes. It may only be 10 frames, but that's a 15% performance boost. For a build with 1080ti, a jump from 2700x to 8700k will be much less than 15% price difference.
Charles Price
Bullshit.
Luis Bell
One with lots of phases.
Christopher Gomez
You shouldn't think I'm terms of absolutes, but percentages. It's 9% worst than its Intel counterpart with the best GPU of the time. So in case you don't go with a top tier card, the difference in absolute numbers will be less than that.
For some people it does matter, but I am fine with my 2600X. Pic is averages in FHD.
