the future of applications distri-
The future of applications distri-
Ryder Mitchell
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Joseph Diaz
>desktop applications on linux
good, I only use the cli and tooey
Oliver Brooks
>Sadly, it's obvious Red Hat developers working on flatpak do not care about security, yet the self-proclaimed goal is to replace desktop application distribution - a cornerstone of linux security.
It's kekhat YET FUCKING AGAIN. Holy shit. Good site btw.
James Bennett
Why doesn't the site also mention Snaps? Is this a Canonical hitpiece?
Julian Perez
It probably is
Anthony Gonzalez
Tyler Barnes
This site focuses on shitpaks, but you can find dirt on snaps easily in a web search. Like
-required registration and login to the snap store to use it as user
-hard depends on systemd
-similar sandboxing issues
-badly set up, half-assed packages
-similar security issues
Austin Thomas
well lets face it, the whole point of AppImages, Flatpaks, and Snaps is to do an end run around distro maintainers. Upstreams want to be able to shit out this week's broken garbage without having some pesky Debian developer keep it in sid for a year and insisting that it be linked against libraries that may change at any time for security updates. Upstreams hate this security bother and users who don't run bleeding-edge stuff, since they don't want to be bothered about a bug report against something the released, like, two whole months ago. What ancient history, they should have upgraded by now!
For this reason alone all these app-packaging schemes are a bad idea. We have distros with package managers and good people maintaining them. Lets keep it that way until upstreams get their act together. Don't hold your breath.
Adam Roberts
Windows doesn't have this problem
Joshua Williams
>red hat
>shit security
wow that was unexpected
Jacob Cruz
FUCK REDHAT
LONG LIVE APPIMAGES
Blake Morales
>flatkill
geee who will be behind this
Zachary Phillips
It's better than flatpaks since it lets you manage software permissions. If opening snaps wasn't slow as fuck I'd use them for everything.
Kevin Williams
Fucking Red Hat ruining the GNU/Linux ecosystem with their shit software.
Charles Johnson
this desu
if the security isnt there then they're shittier appimages
Dylan Anderson
I genuinely think that RedHat is evil and worse than MS.
Jace Clark
damn RH on suicide alert
Daniel Jackson
Why not just use your disto's safe and secure package manager?
Easton Davis
Friendly reminder AppImages are endorsed by Linus Torvalds and are the best option for quick access to applications on source based distros.
Logan Ross
it's called the snap store sweetie
Oliver Howard
>safe and secure
So why can't I manage it's permissions?
Liam Ramirez
You can, via sudo. Run applications under different users with restricted permissions. The truth is, end users don't care about security, and both them and developers want convenience. This is why there's a push to have "app stores" and whatever else replace package management.
Isaac Gonzalez
>local root exploits
well that escalated quickly
Hunter Torres
nobody really cares about security for the desktop linux use case
Easton Ortiz
>why can't i have sandboxing?
>you don't need sandboxing because end users don't care about it
Jonathan Harris
Fuck off RedHat
Jose Reed
>using anything Lincuck Trannyvolds endorses
Elijah Watson
proof
Hudson Lee
the "end users" argument, killed gnu plus linus
Alexander Hernandez
Sudo will give you primitive but safe sandboxing: wiki.gentoo.org
Adrian Jackson
So what's the best flatsnackpack image to use?
how does it work???
t. normie
Owen Lewis
They want to make Linux more accessible to the braindead average person (also known as the normalfag/normie). To achieve this they try to mimick what other OSes do, make big colorful buttons that do all the work for you while playing funny sounds. I am against this whole dumbing down Linux agenda, but reeeing about app stores being crutches for retards won't solve anything, even though it's true.
Ryan Morris
This one
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Jackson Hall
>implying Linus Torvalds is politically correct and likes CoC
Fucking FAKE NEWS
Ayden Cooper
AppImage, is as easy as click to run, no need to install special snowflake software to make it run and not slave to systemcuck like flatdick.
Bentley Hall
>Decide to do thing on Arch
>Thing is very tedious going by wiki instructions
>Do a 360 and install the snap package
Ian Carter
Appimages are amazing, yes.
Wyatt White
>not slave to systemcuck like flatdick.
That hasn't been true for a long time.
Wyatt Gray
>windows executables cannot get root access on install
gee i wonder why lincolnpark.mp3.exe can encrypt my hard disk and instantly lock my system
Carter Johnson
Yeah, you know what else is easy to install and doesn't need any bullshit to support it? YOUR DISTRO'S PACKAGE MANAGER
Gabriel Cook
snap vs flatpak sandboxing? which is better?
want to use discord sandboxed
Blake Parker
>which is better?
not using discord
Gavin Mitchell
wew, it's almost as if linux were a clusterfuck of hacks and patches thrown together with zero fucks given to proper design and quality control
Angel Robinson
Because windows and macshit is the opposite of that
Jonathan Sanders
see
Charles Williams
actually, I've seen far more ugly hacks in Windows than on Linux.
You can see them when you take a look under the hood for a while.