If I need Linux how come I haven't installed it in about 10 years?
Hunter Robinson
You don't need Linux if you aren't a software developer. And even then, most of the time you can do software development on Windows just fine.
Gabriel Anderson
i admit i want to nakadashi kyouko-chan
Jordan Murphy
Nobody ever needed Linux if they have a Windows license.
VirtualBox has been available, with tools like Vagrant for development.
It's just that a lot of web development is done with Linux servers, so a lot of the useful tools were only functional for Linux or Mac. Things have changed though.
Jackson Diaz
Developing in C++ on Windows makes me want to die. Linux is a much better dev environment.
Noah Hall
and then how you run an IDE? inside the VM -> slow as fuck through an X11 connection -> buggy as fuck and somewhat slow outside the VM in a shared folder -> buggy as fuck, harder to run debuggers, can't detect changed files well, etc. bare metal on either system is probably the best option
Brandon Barnes
Linux is perfectly fine for programming, casual gaming, doing daily tasks as using web browser, using libreoffice and making memes with gimp.
I moved to Linux back in 2014 and never looked back. Looks like I made a wise decision too.
patching windows license is something even a 15 year old can do, so it's not something that blocks anyone from using windows instead of linux.
William Gomez
Lol. Visual Studio is the only highly productive C++ development environment on the planet. I have colleagues working on Linux and they can't do the simplest things. Refactor? Lol, forget it, by the time you've "grep"ed through the source and verified every match and replaced every occurrence of the name, I've pressed Ctrl-R,R, renamed the method, finished three code reviews and am taking a coffee break. Debugging? I have never seen a less productive debugger than gdb. All the information is obscured, there is no way to set breakpoints right in your editor, you have to copy-paste method names from your editor to your terminal to set breakpoints! And it doesn't even show you source! With Visual Studio it's only two clicks and you're right there, in the source, setting breakpoints and debugging. Code navigation? Absolute trash. All you get is a text index. Try finding a single implementation of a method that overrides a pure virtual method when your cursor is hovering the declaration in the header file. Oh what's that? Your TAGS file has a bajillion tags with that name because that's a frequently implemented interface so you have to wade through hundreds of results? I feel bad for ya, because for me it's just F12 and I'm right there. Let's not even talk about things like "automatically stubbing out implementations of pure virtual methods" and any other code generation facilities. The only thing you get on Linux is to feel like a "super hacker" because you're typing text in a terminal. Sorry kiddo, but the real world doesn't care about your green tinted terminal, we have to get work done.
Ryan Jones
Worst Yuru
Caleb Johnson
Ever heard of jetbrains CLion? Probably not
Hudson Butler
>gimp. Yikes. Use Krita.
Owen Morris
>linux is great, but you are seriously cucking yourself for muh beliefs and philasuhfee >you need both to be happy and whole Why? All this text and not a single pro or con to both.
James Turner
You are an unemployed LARPer. No one greps to refactor anything. And don't blame your lack of knowledge on GDB, it works just fine.
Sebastian Cooper
Linux + GNU never had a problem with any porn paysite I have used.
Mason Davis
No. I need macOS for anything productive. I use Windows on my Surface Pro for drawing in Photoshop. All other uses for Windows (other than fixing it, which I have to do regularly because every now and then it manages to break itself) is video games. I prefer macOS because of the way it handles files better. QuickLook, Spotlight, being able to move a file while it is open, being able to access the same file with two programs, the filename in the top of the window's title bar that you can right click to open a list of the file's path, and more. All things Windows can't even dream of. Windows has become more bearable of course, with the addition of WSL and bash, but it still is a hellscape in terms of efficient productivity. GNU/Linux is useful to set something up, like a server and then forget about it, as well as experimenting.
Austin Jones
CLion is garbage, I tried it once and it crashed trying to index our codebase.
So how do you click to set a breakpoint in GDB?
Robert Cooper
define "comprehensive". For a lot of people the OS is basically just a substrate for running a web browser. Linux does that just fine.
>>linux for tinkering and programming Windows is better for programming as the number of languages having first class support for Windows is higher than the number of languages with Linux 1st class support.
Julian Davis
Is this Microsoft support?
Cameron Murphy
>they didn't choose the anime mascot yikes
Connor Butler
stupid /v/tard, leave please
>linux is great, but you are seriously cucking yourself for muh beliefs and philasuhfee that's not why anybody actually uses linux, like maybe 1% of its users at most actually care about any of that shit but for me i just find it convenient for software dev. considering that's what i spend most of my time doing i have no reason to use anything else, maybe another windows partition i touch a couple times a month at best to use the few things i need that don't run on linux but having to do that isn't really an inherent problem with linux itself, there's just not that much support
yeah in the same way that you don't need to eat good food because mcdonalds exists. it's a shittier experience
baby duck syndrome
ok but the languages that actually matter are supported like fuckin trash, have you looked at msvc?
Tinkering and programming is all what I use my computer for.
David Davis
You mean like the Linux kernel every 5 days?
I don't lie, I've never seen a Linux "super hacker" be able to match the productivity of Visual Studio, even with the grotesque frankensteinian monsters they construct out of their text editors. Why would I spend years of my life fiddling with half-broken "muh open sores" bullshit, when I can just install Visual Studio, the standard C++ IDE.
> baby duck syndrome wat
Wyatt Martinez
>wat Hi, reddit.
Ryan Thomas
>admit it. you need Windows for a comprehensive personal computing experience. Then why don't I use it? I think you're just a kid that still likes video games.
Ethan Hill
>ok but the languages that actually matter are supported like fuckin trash, have you looked at msvc? What exactly is so wrong about it? Plus with MinGW you can use GCC, no problem.
Wyatt Moore
Implying I use my computer for anything other than programming and browsing Jow Forums
Adam Robinson
I admit. I still use linux because windows is a slow piece of shit
John Adams
outdated/inconsistent support for newer versions of the C and C++ standard. and yes, you can use GCC, but overall i consider it less of a hassle to just use linux in the first place instead of playing pretend
Thomas Jenkins
Windows is garbage.
Ethan Peterson
>yeah in the same way that you don't need to eat good food because mcdonalds exists. it's a shittier experience no it's not If linux became as good as windows at GUI (even with all the useless crap they put in windows 10) I'd switch
Easton Phillips
Idk what you mean by "everything else", but Linux works just fine as a low maintenance media consumption & web browsing OS.
nobody cares about GUIs, function > form. when i talk about the experience i'm not talking about aero or some shit
Chase Sullivan
>admit it. you need Windows for a comprehensive personal computing experience. What does this even mean?
>>linux for tinkering and programming Literally all I do on the computer all day.
Carson Diaz
I don't want to have to RTFM every time I want to change my cursor size and stupid shit like that Plus objectively Windows has more functionality than Linux because of a bigger software library. The only advantage Linux has is running obscure research or ML software like Torch
Adam King
There are plenty of plugins for texteditors and ides that let you set breakpoints by clicking on lines of code.
Hell, even my vim plugins allow me to do that.
Joshua Ross
>every time I want to change my cursor size WTF how often do you do this? I've literally never done this. Just use the default.
Fucking ricer fags.
Matthew Ortiz
>I don't want to have to RTFM every time I want to change my cursor size and stupid shit like that just because you're supposed to use the terminal a lot doesn't mean it's inherently more difficult
>Plus objectively Windows has more functionality than Linux because of a bigger software library. The only advantage Linux has is running obscure research or ML software like Torch then you're no longer talking about the OS, just the software developed for it
Charles Stewart
But there's no valgrind on Windows.
Gabriel Evans
Mac is expensive, Mac OS is 20 dollars.
Brayden Campbell
It crashes because of windblows.
Julian Reed
Guaranteed way to get 300 replies. Some retarded moeposter /v/tard posts some stupid shit about Linux. I wish I could leave Jow Forums but it's like a drug at this point