>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming >R5 2400G/R5 2600/x- Consider IF on sale >i5 8400 - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for i7 9900k and 9700k - Surely the best for gaming at any resolution >i7 8700k - Currently best high-end gaming at any resolution/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are top of the line GPU atm but wait untill the price comes down a little >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans >Avoid Vega they are poor values and inferior to their Pascal counterpart in every way 1080p >1060 6GB standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb for lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/1080 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >GTX 1070Ti/1080 >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Gtx 1080ti/2080. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard >NVMe are not for gaming; See "More"
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider G-Sync with nVidia cards >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Why are the CPUs people on this thread don't like portrayed as Indians? Seems random, aren't these chips made in Taiwan or something?
James Davis
Indigenous Taiwanese are basically South Asian jungle pajeets
Camden Morgan
What kind of dumb ass needs to emulate PS3?
Lincoln Nelson
Oh, okay. I saw some stuff about the 850 evo and 960 evo but ignored it. The only amd platform the 860 evo seems to have troubles with from what I can find is am3+. I'm scared search engines are hiding results from me though.
Austin Butler
Yeah, but they haven't been a majority since the Nationalists fled there.
Are there any upcoming changes in the SSD field or am I set if I buy an 860 SATA?
Ian Walker
You're fucking retarded, actually and unironically backing up the retardanon who thinks 4.3GHz is higher than the 4.35GHz stock clocks for single threaded tested like Cinebench 1T.
Nathaniel Howard
but where are the good games?
Camden Baker
>editing benchmarks to shill for intel how much are they paying you?
Tyler Jenkins
too right mate only good upcoming games are serious sam and doom eternal, and those won't need top of the line specs to run.
Brandon Brown
Are M.2 drives really that better than regular SSDs?
Adam Gonzalez
I mean, I'm looking forward to Cyberpunk and playing KIngdom Come in 2k.
Cooper Campbell
it's just intel shills doing overtime damage control since their cpus are doing poorly
Joke's on you I bought a Gemini Lake pentium J5005 nuc and it's fine for posting on basket weaving forums and energy efficient. Don't think AMD has any such products.
Wyatt Wright
yall retards know amd and intel are working together right? they are using vega gpus now. yall all being conned by one single monopoly
It is on my mobos qvl but it says samsung. Doesn't samsung make only b-die kits? I though this model would be hynix or something because it is cas 15? Sorry I'm paranoid about such things I just want to make sure it's gonna 100% work
I don't understand the motivations of an user shilling for any company with the tenacity we only see contained in /pcbg/
I mean, literally why? If you're a paid shill then I understand you have to make them moneys, but if you're doing it for free of for any thing else other than getting paid then you should reevaluate your life or kill yourself.
Lmao ryzen is really just for poor people >8700k gets over 30fps more then the 2700x, both oc youtu.be/T6KcnRIcG8U
Adam Gray
>Intel-led average of games >AMD-led average of games
Who do i believe anymore. At this point im willing to get AMD or Intel. Guess i'll wait for 7nm ryzen and see how that pans out.
Nolan Robinson
Later in the year, Intel follows up with the 28-core Xeon W-3175X and overclocking support is intended for workstations and enthusiasts. In an interview with PC World, Intel's head of desktop computers and systems, Anand Srivatsa, says that the model does not come with fast-heat heat exchanger without using refrigerant paste.
The fact that the model continues to use refrigerant paste is motivated by the fact that no other processor for the LGA 3647 socket has a quick-release heat exchanger. The reason is that the Intel Xeon W-3175W is a product that will be sold in lower volumes and the company has therefore not provided a design specific to that model.
>up to >when you disable half the cores on Threadripper Can't believe you're still posting this when it got BTFO.
Adrian Ortiz
>lets overclock the ryzen and give it faster ram then put it against a stock 8400 >lol amd wins again Not even an Intel drone but that's pretty pathetic
How do i check if my CPU is bottlenecking my GPU? I have high frame rates but stutter a lot. I have a i5-4670K and gtx 1070. I'm aiming for 1080p 144hz.
After doing some researches, it seems that higher resolution = GPU. higher fps = CPU. which made me think if i should upgrade my CPU.
And if i should, which one should i go for? i5-9600K? or i7-9700K. Budget is not an issue, but this is a new gen and hyper threading seems to be missing, so i'm curious if i needed the upgrade, or i should get these 2, and which one.
Charles Allen
>posting old pics when you find out you get btfo now Classic C O P E
Ryan Morgan
Can I assume 3200/CL14 is better than 3600/CL16?
Adrian Harris
get something like an msi afterburner to display load during games. if your cpu cores are at 100%, you have a cpu bottleneck. yes. heavy diminishing returns above 3200.
Carter Gray
9600k oc'ed is the same as 9700k oc'ed If you do anything else besides gaming and want the cores get 9700k, if youre only gaming 9600k
Levi Carter
The results seen here are not mutually exclusive. The 8700K wins at lower resolution, higher refreshrate gaming, while tying at higher resolutions, and losing in multi-tasking/productivity, security, price, and temperatures/noise. Ignoring the timer issues with the last few generations of Intel CPUs, the 8700K is the high-end choice for gamers who need higher framerates at all costs. The 2700X is the high-end choice for gamers who need fewer headaches and have better uses for their limited money (GPU upgrade).
Down from that you have a field dominated pretty much entirely by AMD's mid range, except in older titles or when you ignore the existence of background tasks.
If you don't care about Intel's security failings though, older Xeons both unlocked and not are typically the best value for money, as you can pair them with ultra cheap ECC memory.
>23 fps on a late 2016 console release from the previous gen wow pc master race amirite gais.
Connor Lopez
There is no company that appreciates competition though
Christian Nelson
How's Inno3D as a brand. I can buy an Inno3D 2080 for €799, MSI is €899.
Tyler Gonzalez
They don't make those anymore
Benjamin James
How much of a performance boost can I expect from 3200/14 B-Die ram over some generic Corsair 3000/15 with a 2700X? Worth paying 50% extra over the cheaper ram?
>Doesn't samsung make only b-die kits? No, just samsung doesn't mean it's B-die, not even close mate, you are about to jew yourself
Joshua Johnson
What is it about Intelfags that makes them attack you personally when you dare to research their competition? I mention I'm going to make an AMD build this time around and they start screeching, while at the same time singing the praises of Intel's latest $900 CPU offering and Nvidia's $2000 video card.
It's like all the retards in this thread; they have fallen for old memes and fake benchmarks and take that as the factual truth and base their world view around it. Low energy and possibly sad, if you ask me.
Ignore the "b die", you often won't be able to figure that out because you're dumb. Focus on the true (nanosecond) latencies, the b-die will come as a result. 3000 CL15 = 10ns. 8 to 9ns is ideal.
Ian Long
>I mean, literally why? If you're a paid shill then I understand you have to make them moneys, but if you're doing it for free of for any thing else other than getting paid then you should reevaluate your life or kill yourself. Literally because they think they are fighting a holy war against the jews, but shilling for another company. It gives their life purpose and gives them that warm self righteous feeling.
AMD drones believe their special company wants competition and if intel was down on their luck they would literally give them money, you know for good sportsmanship.
Chase Fisher
how the fuck R5>R7 and i5>i7 ??
Levi Cooper
>current value Read
Liam Ward
Intel fired a shitton of their hardware staff to pay for feminist garbage. The only way to make that back is to gouge their loyalists before they realize how hard they're getting scammed.
Ethan Perry
if reducing your graphics settings doesn't improve your performance then it's the GPU, additionally if you look at GPU utlization, if it's sitting at 50% utlization then it's a CPU bottleneck.
Contrary to popular belief, high CPU utilization is not a bottleneck, it only means that it's being utilzied fully and pushing out as much as possible. On the other hand if your GPU is sitting at 50% utilization while your CPU is at 100% utilization, that's a CPU bottleneck. Always look at both of the components.
Easton Rogers
Whoops, meant to say my friends are the ones who start screeching. And I should add that literally none of them do any research into this, they just Google a games benchmarks and pick the highest number next to fps for their hardware. One of them has a literal Xeon in his gayman PC.
Aaron Williams
>AMD drones guess how we know you're an intlel shill?
Samuel Jones
I just want to know if this kit will work at the advertised 3000 cl15
Leo Brooks
>AMD version is a shitpost You intelfags keep spouting this nonsense off like you dont even pay attention to the threads. If I ask any question about AMD hardware, I get several helpful (You)s from posters here who actually use the hardware, instead of masturbating to an ad for the latest Intel CPU they will never afford. The majority of Jow Forums has switched to ryzen and radeon for their builds and you seething Intel/Goyvidia fags think it must be a paid campaign to shill on an anonymous chinese cartoon board.
>a-anybody who thinks I'm a retard for being a companies drone is clearly the other companies drone >there is literally no people who wouldn't want one companys dick in their ass t.you
Camden Sanders
take the product code, go the brands website and see what the actual, offical claim is on the MHz and CL
William Turner
It's on the QVL so yes, it will work as advertised.
Hunter Ross
if it's on the qvl then yes
Wyatt Peterson
You realize there is literally fake screenshots and shitposting done to damage control, right?
Samuel Brooks
just don't get worried when you see it actually set on c16. ryzen will only work on c14/16/18/20 and it will round odd numbers up automatically.
Tyler Lewis
>8 to 9ns is ideal >2267MHz@CL10 DDR3 It's pretty good I guess. I got a friend to get 3200@CL14 wit ha 3200 16CL kit, tweaked it a little, I'm still learning about RAM timings.
Out of these two even if it was cl16 it would be better due to cycles rate
John Rodriguez
>MAGA (literal jew ass kissers) dabbing on a jew just what did they mean by this
Easton Hill
pic related is when i'm playing black ops 4. This is setting textures and 3D model to highest and turning everything else to lowest/off (shadows, effects, etc) I'm having 70~80+ fps btw. But it's stuttering real bad.
From the graph, the GPU usage is 60+%, while CPU is always at around 100%. I have no other apps running, besides of discord. And i closed my chrome too, while i usually have it in background while playing games.
Which CPU should i look into? i5-9600K? or i7-9700K. for 1080p 144hz.
Don't be a poorfag and buy a 9900K, THE ultimate gaming chip.
Camden Smith
left is DDR3 and right DDR4, so yeah, it will be better but comparable.
Elijah Miller
Dont bother,its the fact that nvidia slows your gpu down with updates and such. Game runs much better on amd gpus than nvidia for instance.
Eli Ward
Based on that graph I would say it's a CPU bottleneck. As you can see your GPU isn't sitting in the top 80-100% while the CPU is. Check other games and see if you have the same issues and same graphs. If so, you can confirm it's the CPU and you upgrade that. Lastly, small thing. If you have frames unlocked the CPU will always be as utilized as much as possible to push out frames. So capping FPS can and does reduce CPU bottleneck (other method is to increase the GPU load until it becomes the bottleneck before the CPU)
Blake Jones
jesus christ imagine being autistic enough to make this pic