Is it possible to fully wipe an SSD? Asking for a friend

You just wipe it and the data isn't recoverable like it is with a platter drive

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fell for the bait

>fell for the bait

>lol how new you are?
The fucking irony.

Give it back, Jamal.

yeh yu jus wipe a towl on et silly

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>Well known Jow Forums meme dude xD
Spotted the closet newfag

this, fill your drive with random data

I don't know about the reserved blocks though, might have to do it several times, but at that point recovery is so expensive and complicated that nobody will bother (assuming that reserved blocks are only used in a random order, something like that)

SSD != HDD

There is no way to tell you for sure, because it's highly controller-dependent. There may or may not be a solution implemented for the specific controller on your SSD.
Physical destruction is the actual only surefire way.
Sorry about that.

But then, what do you want to delete and why? More likely than not, you're freaking out and whether or not there is proof of data being there is irrelevant.

That's not true because SSD's often have extra hidden storage for wear leveling and replacing broken sectors.

There is no easy way to see or wipe this extra storage.
You will have to bypass the firmware.

>format it
>wipe free space (in the operating system)
>wipe SSD (in the UEFI/BIOS settings (if your motherboard doesn't have this option tough luck))
>full disk encrypt it
>put in hot oven (way above boiling point) for 3 hours
>put it in microwave for a couple of minutes (keep an eye on it and prepare to abort if fire risk)
>put it in a plastic/glass container with acid overnight (put it in a place where it doesn't matter if the container breaks and spills acid)
>put it in several layers of trash bag
>smash it with hammer repeatedly
>go downtown and throw random bits in different rivers and garbage bins

this has worked for me for 5 years straight

this: or if you want to keep the thing:
> format
> wipe free space
> fill the SSD with garbage
> repeat this 2 times
then
> clean install with full disc encryption
> use a very strong password
You should be fine.

like with a cloth?

Thermite it

SSD storage management uses some more complex algorithms in order to prolong the life of the drive. It's not certain that you can wipe the flash memory since the controller would be working against you. Your best bet is to buy a new one, since they're pretty cheap now.

One more reason to buy self-encrypting SSD's.

Even if you don't use a password all data will be encrypted and simply resetting the encryption key will make all existing data inaccessible.

this is one more reason why people should still use HDD.
SSD should only be used for the operating system and nothing else.

ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase

>i was only pretending to be retarded :D :D :D :D

fill your drive with random data and then reformat it with ext4 or ntfs depending on the platform you use. Trim will do the rest for you.

Isn't supported by every SSD.

How do you find out if your SSD supports it?

You issue the secure erase command and see if it succeeds. On Samsung SSDs it works but my Crucial MX300s return a "not supported" error.

buy a macbook ;)

Just securely remove your luks header, it's not that hard.

If you fill your SSD with a ton of junk and repeatedly delete, sooner or later, whatever it is you want to delete will be gone.

Not if what you want to delete is on a damaged sector, taken out of the pool and ignored forever.

As if ATA secure erase or anything else but physically destroying the drive would help against that.

I dont think that data in such sectors can be recovered in any meaningful way, except when its ASCII text.

every time retards get baited, no matter how obvious like (using xd ffs), their comeback is some variation of justpretending.jpg
god i hate this shit so much there is no bait where this doesnt come up eventually

On a hard-drive it should at least attempt to overwrite the damaged sectors.
It might have just one failed bit but all the other bits get erased.
And chances are if a bit is too damaged to write to it will also be too damaged to read anything from.

Usually they can't be written to anymore, but the data is intact.

>damaged sectors
does that occur often? how do u know if u have any damaged sectors

Turn on airplane mode on your pc.

usually happens due to old age or mishandling of the drive. google S.M.A.R.T.

Yeah but one sector is only 4KB. Could one even view/display 4KB from the middle of a picture, video or archive without having the file header?

Nope. A single pass with zeros is about as good as you can expect.

There are issues with ssd technology in forensics. With platter hd's they would take the drive and make and iso clone of it and take the hash of that to use as evidence that the information they obtained was never changed. With SSD's you get a different hash each time and the state of the drive its different each time. When the drive becomes unpowered then repowered without being connected to any system its internal controller will shift data around automatically making an exact copy of the drive state impossible and thus its use in a court of law as evidence most likely admissible as there is no way to prove the data was not altered after it was seized.
Food for thought

You fucked up, you should have encrypted it the first thing before using it

>Wiping drives with zeroes instead of using random data
Cute but stupid and ineffective.

A combination of and is probably your best bet OP

There is only one correct answer.
Start a low level format using the build in SSD controllers methods.

There is a software called "Lowvel" which does this perfectly fine.
It doesn't even kill the SSDs cells, so you can reuse or sell the SSD afterwards

It's perfectly fine for SSDs.
If your wanna wipe a HDD you should use random data and at least 5 passes

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ATA_SECURE_ERASE is the only way. It's quicker than DBAN and bypasses wear leveling that might leave some stuff untouched.

1. ATA_SECURE_ERASE
2. Next time use full disk encryption

99% sure this shit will be gone with a reformatting but asking just to be sure. Hdd btw

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>Is it possible to fully wipe an SSD? Asking for a friend...
Yes, takes about 20 seconds.
Google "SATA Secure Erase"

CRABBED

so dban is no good for ssd, but for hdd is it reliable?

Why the fuck isn't the OS in charge of managing the flash cells as opposed to some meme controller?

>SSD
thermite

Jokes on them, I had nothing of value since it's a new drive. Fuck I hate Windows 10 but my laptop manufcaturers no longer support Win 7. More like JEWED

You can't trust the controller.

Dremel all ICs to the dust.

>You can't trust the controller.
Try it for yourself and attempt to recover the data.

Why can't ssds be erased like hdds?

I don't have the secret police forensic tools needed to accsess the raw cells, but that does not mean it's impossible. Just because you can't run magnetic forensics with a microscope on an HDD, doesn't mean the FBI/NSA/gestapo or whatever can't use the residue data to implicate you. This is of course not going to happen if you're not already a high profile target, but still.

Yeah, just format it

>usually happens due to old age or mishandling of the drive

so pretty much if your ssd is in 100% tip top shape, and you do this , its fine right

It's okay for HDD because when you write something to a sector, it overwrites what was previously in that sector. On an SSD it often goes somewhere else due to wear leveling.

ATA_SECURE_ERASE is superior for HDDs as well. DBAN cannot overwrite what was in a sector that has been reallocated. Secure erase is also faster.

>the tech behind it is too complex to definitively tell you wether the data is truly gone
Just because you don't understand how an SSD works, that doesn't mean it's complicated.
You can just overwrite the drive with zeros and it'll have nothing on it but zeros. It's not magic.

If the Illuminati or whoever is so hellbent on getting you that they'd go to the trouble, they'll probably just waterboard you until you confess. Or better yet, shoot you dead and skip the need for evidence. The only way anyone's ever going to do that kind of forensic analysis to a hard drive is if the data itself is immensely valuable. Like nuclear launch codes or time travel notes or something.

>use in a court of law as evidence most likely admissible as there is no way to prove the data was not altered after it was seized.
Unless the supreme court issues a judgement on this matter, you can be sure 99% of district judges will just side with law enforcement. In fact most defence lawyers wouldn't even use that argument.

meme tabs never get old

zeroing a sector on a ssd doesn't delete it, it only marks the flash pages as zero
the only way to wipe ssd is to use secure erase. You can write random data all you want, but due to wear leveling and reserve blocks some is still going to be left there.