It's time to dump gab Jow Forums and join the fediverse

But I'm not a transvestite or a communist

The 'fediverse' shit seems so confusing. Both to me and the people i've shown it to. I think if they want it to succeed, they're gonna have to make the 'instance' and federation concepts more invisible to the end-user.

>still has the ability to outright banish a group of users
Why even bother, then?

Who givs a shit?

just say it's like email, most people understand email despite there being many different hosts.

You are pretty optimistic about the Jow Forums choosing the right option, user.
My bet they are going to Mastodon.

You nazi fuckers better make sure to join an instance that caters to your bullshit because unlike twitter if you join a large general instance you will be banned.

Because we don't care about nazi fucks getting deplatformed.

sealion.club represent

I tried out niu.moe around 4 months ago and it was honestly pretty cringeworthy. Constant this and that about BLUMPF and a lot really depressed trannies always going on about their mental illnesses. Not even poking fun at them here, they CONSTANTLY post about it. It's all, "Why am I so ugly? :((" or "So depressed ... constantly on meds ... nobody loves me ..." You might think I'm exaggerating but I'm not. These people are just a huge bummer and they're always going on about how no no-one is appealing to every whim that they have, or how this-and-that triggers them, or how the latest episode of such-and-such is reinforcing bigotry and the rape of women or something. Nothing against these people, but all the negativity just isn't for me. I suppose it depends on which instance you join, but from what I can tell the fediverse is generally like this. The few instances that are more ideologically diverse on the surface are ironically put on blocklists that many other instances utilize (if you're abundantly freespeech you apparently get put on this blocklist) so you're left in an echochamber. To niu's great credit they did not block other instances so I would go with them if you were going to join it at all.

But, yeah, that's my main reason for not liking Mastodon at the moment -- it's too ideologically homogenous and it encourages echo chambers. Everyone is in their own little group that always agrees with one another and very little of interest gets discussed because everyone has the same opinions on everything, and a lot of people are willing to block you or your instance if you don't. Similarly I don't use gab because it's ideologically an echochamber as well, though that's mostly due to who Twitter is mostly going after at the moment -- I imagine those on the far left could find success at gab if they all joined too. Doubt they would get banned or block whereas the inverse is likely not true.

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How very intolerant of you.

>Gab is anti free speech (twitter post calling anime pedophillic)
they literally expressed their right to free speech by saying nonsense on twitter

Well said. That's pretty much the reason I stopped using it too. It's a shame that these alternative platforms are so encouraging of blocking everyone. It really results in some of the most boring communities imaginable.

Micro-blogging is garbage anyway. Only the most needy of attentionwhores need to flock to it.

Jow Forums

Who pawoo here?

>that image
How could you unironically get this buttblasted over a parody game lol

That's right, what are the odds that they'll also take issue with something *I* would have to say?

Use it to follow artists.
It's the best instance but the language barrier is too much even for a weab.

same all my loli artists are on pawoo now. fuck every other instance with all their gay tranny shit, pawoo is all i need

But anime is pedophillic...

Nice! Create more networks so you become less effective :)

MUH NAZI

>the fediverse
>free speech
Except if you don't police the speech on your instance, all the larger instances will block yours and you'll lose communication to four fifths of the fediverse

It just feels like the whole fediverse needs a new influx of users with more variety.

Pawoo is nice but it's essentially only artists that were banned on Twitter.
I hope Pixiv will succeed at promoting it for all it's members.

I also like that some networks like Niu and Mstdnio lets you follow whatever you like,
but not being able to boost and interact with anything controversial defeats the purpose.
It doesn't help that the developer promotes censorship, and that most instances use blacklists.

The protocol in itself is sane.
It would still be better to have an instance blocked on 90% of the network, than using a centralized and proprietary site like Gab.
At least some of the content will propagate to some other instances, on an open source project that anyone can extend.

>decentralization is bad
Let say someone had an instance to talk about movies. Why should allow some other instance to flood him posts about sports?

Mastodon's just another form of cancer, full of anime pedophiles bumbling about video games, drugs, whining about mental illness, depression, all while using nigger lingo.

Do you think your feed is made up of every post on every instance you're federated with? You still follow individuals and can block individuals yourself. Instances blocking other instances just takes that choice away from you without otherwise doing anything.

haven't heard of this site until last week when they banned loli and honestly dont see any reason to use it

hosts have always been scum, gab should've been prepared to buy their own hardware

It's Twitter without pedophilia and shadow banning, what's not to like?

From a business perspective, cloud hosting makes more sense, it's more expensive, but the upfront costs are essentially 0, compared to the enormous cost of buying all your own hardware and colocating it yourself. But even if you were to buy hardware, what stops your datacenter from kicking you out? What if one of your datacenters' peers pressures them into deplatforming you? There's no real solution to any of this, a handful of corporations control the internet.

Federation is certainly not the answer, the ideological fracturing of the mastodon network is the perfect example of why it would not work. And at the moment P2P solutions aren't the answer, they simply aren't reliable enough, they are too slow, are incompatible with mobile (seeding files on a cellphone is impractical), and it's difficult to convince normalfags to use them over a traditional centalized service.

In the immediate future, I think freedom of speech on the internet is dead. Maybe we will see some kind of new technical innovation that enables free speech, or something that makes P2P solutions viable, but for the time being we're fucked

they could just host it outside of anglo countries which are already known to be fucking cucks

>everything i don't like is nazi
get back to tumblr or whatever else you came from

i mean why the fuck use twitter at all, its by far the worse social network, unless you like to shitpost directly to celebs

You forgot no paypal

I guarantee you look like this in real life

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>Jow Forums thread about fediverse being a gab/twitter alt

get the fuck off my lawn kids

it could always happen but you'll get better guarantees from a collocation, that seems like a workable solution to me, i'm not ready to panic because an idiot chose some bargain host

the fediverse is more like that band of barbarians that roams the internet in search of fun and memes + absolute protocol anarchy clusterfuck, than a social networking site alternative.

It's more about the trend of the centralization of power and influence on the internet, and the tech industry in general than it is about this single case of a website getting banned by it's host

I just want to peoplewatch terfs on a platform that isn't twitter, and is foss and decentralized. is this too much to ask?

try smugloli, the owner does not give flying shit about offensive shit
there are free speech instances
Most of the fediverse does not instance block just the large instances that are run by communist turboniggers
stormfags we mock on the right wing fediverse, we don't ban them as they are lolcows
so step on snek

Consistent and proper use of a language is like writing clear and elegant code. Now tell me Jow Forums don't get rustled over pajeet ugly hacks.

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Minds.com seems to work fine.

nor gabs or minds are completely free speech
nice that gabs got killed by paypal and their anti-porn crusade

fuck paypal btw.

anyway go mastodon or pleroma.
smugloli or an instance that actually gives no fuck about lolis and hate speech.
(biggest problems with all pseudo called free speech platforms).

most of the art content in mastodon comes from the pixiv instance, Pawoo. with is already filtered because loli contend on the big and normie ones like. mastodon.social

choose a good instance if you go mastodon. just read their Rules.
but it depends on what you want.

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>Most of the fediverse does not instance block just the large instances
The large instances make up a huge portion of the fediverse. Chances are there are going to be a few people you'll want to see the posts of or want to post at that are going to be on those instances just because they're the most popular and well known. If you want to be able to interact with those people, even though they themselves don't give a shit about blocking other instances, you'll have to choose an instance that isn't blocked by the large instances. Maybe you'd personally still prefer an anarchist instance that's cut off from half of the fediverse, but most people are going to be hearded into compliant instances so they aren't restricted in who they can talk to.

Perfect noob to this fed stuff
What you're saying is that if I'm in a free speech instance that is blocked by one of the big ones and my friends just so happen to be in that big one then my friend can't see my posts in a third let's say cooking instance because the big instance blocks all users from the free speech instance for my friend?

I guarantee you look like this, you nigger worshipping cuck. You even had to cry to leftypol discord to get rid of it

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Cool, you should mention some of the instances that are open for registration too. Matrix is presently utilized for chat, but microblogging and other services can probably utilize it as a backend eventually. It's more than a chat platform, despite its current use case.

banter.city is open for new registrants, simply visit the gateway at totallysafe.website and join the channel #general:banter.city to get started.

Or just go to matrix.to/#/#general:banter.city if you're confused.

so Jow Forums but gayer ?

you seem upset

Your literally crying for an anti white safespace

federation isn't that hard, user.

As far as I'm aware, the instance you're on handles all of your posts. Instances are not per-topic (though some of them advertise as a community centered around a topic, and have rules that mesh well with that topic), they are just a group of users. You create your account an an instance, and then you post everything on that account, and all users on other instances that are federated with your instance can see those posts if they want. If your instance is blocked by another instance or vice versa, users on that instance cannot see any of your posts, and you cannot see any of the posts of users on that instance.

Is this instance any good
freedom.horse/about/more

What the fuck is all this nonsense? Are these just forums with 'twitter' wrappers and weird domain names because they ran out of good '.com's? What was wrong with twitter or forums?

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in mastodon I can post all the loli and hate speech I want without a phone number and being worried of getting banned., that'a the good thing,

>forum
comparing microblogging to a forum. are you 7yo or what? forums are not even similar in the way they work.

absolutely not.

it depends what you want to post.

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If only suicidal sophomore in high school me was aware of how good a decision it refrain from using any social medoodoo besides various image boards and YT.
The dopamine hit probably would have spared hours of time lost to therapy

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I'm still utterly baffled about how instance blocking is built-in. The entire point of federation is so that individual nodes can freely communicate with each other and they design it so that every node can just block themselves off from every other node.

I could understand having some kind of default mute so that posts by certain nodes don't appear by default, but the fact that they can entirely block them is so counter to the point of the protocol.

Decentralization needs anonymity to work, like i2p snark
Otherwise the "decentralization" just consists of a few more single points of failure vulnerable to deplatforming

We just need filecoin asap.

>talking about gab at all
I know it's Jow Forums related, but no thanks.

so what exactly is the problem with 4chins then

You can literally post anything that does not violate US law. What else could you ask for

because if hiro ever decides he's tired of our shit it'll be byebye.
where would we go, infinichan? fucking lul

why can't i post solo horsecocks then?

you can on the respective boards

>Things that are ok to talk about without a CW
>CW

nice brand of freedom they got there

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there is no point of using a social media platform that nobody else uses

>anything that does not violate US law
As if.
Jow Forums.org/rules

Native English speakers can't distinguish difference between your, you're and there, they, they're and their. That shit makes even less sense to my non native English brain.

I got banned for posting a meme image with a pony. I’m not even a brony; I just forgot that ponyspam had been a real problem they had made rules about.

You cant there are still some rules, if you want that try 8ch
True, i’m a bong but I left school at 15 so stop being a grammer nazi
I made a account with a fake email over tor and got banned for karen posting

mastodon.social/about/more
>2. The following types of content will be removed from the public timeline, and may result in account suspension and revocation of access to the service:
> a. Racism or advocation of racism
> b. Sexism or advocation of sexism
> c. Discrimination against gender and sexual minorities, or advocation thereof
> d. Xenophobic and/or violent nationalism
kek, that's worse than twitter

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>mastodon.social
Is that an instance or is that actual mastodon?

Its gonna be dumped for you whether you want it or not. And since two sites will have had their domains seized extrajudicially, and you didn't care either time, it will become a regular occurrence for extremely minor infractions, like denying trans identity, inside 10 years.

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then host your own instance

Pretty much. The fact is that addictive speech/imagery isn't free, because it restricts your thinking just by viewing it. But people insist that free speech has to mean you should be allowed to post whatever you want no matter how obscene. Between that and damage done by that guy on Saturday, that's definitely the future we're heading towards.

Theres more than one instance you newfag

>unironically using any freeze peach social network

What happenned saturday?

Which is why this platform will remain a bunch of obscure echo chambers

Diaspora>

Fuck free speech. God has placed limits on speech and I'm fine with that. Fuck your sacred free speech, do you worship speech or the Lord?

Kill yourself you kike.

Go shove your sacred cow of free speech up your ass atheist scumbag.

How hard would it be to create a decentralized *chan with activitypub?

I agree, which is why I have argued that "hate speech" legislation should be kept in place for its ambiguity. It can be used against every single anti-white sentiment to harshest possible degree when the time comes. Makes me giddy thinking how many jounalists and other shit-tier humans end up in jail and penniless.

Delusion

>hurr religion is stoopid me so smart fuck you mom for taking me to church on a sunday!!!!