Anyone else unable to bring themselves to make the jump to SSD?

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You make valid points but i dont have any games that are 100 gigs most games I have are still reasonable in their size. One argument I would have is that an ssd makes overclocking your system and stress testing for stability way less of a chore than a mechanical drive.

Me, I don't trust them, at least you get advance warning and a 50/50 chance of salvaging your data when the HDD starts making worrying clicking noises. I don't give a shit about boot times.

I've only seen one SSD fail and it was this awful 128 MB OCZ my brother bought like a 7 years ago. I might not go full SSD but I think I will go full 2.5" in the future. Way smaller case options.

SSD for games are a must. The performance boost is significant. And if you're trying to save the "$100" (my sides) that would go into a 128 GB for your games to spend it on a "better GPU or CPU or stick of RAM" (they're hurting), you're a seriously pleb tier fucking idiot.

This debate becomes patrician when you consider SSDs for data storage. For your movies, shows, and porn. Gigs cost like $0.01 on HDDs, and they're like $1.30 on SSDs. It's fucking bonkers. We're in crazy town. How can I replace my 10 TB NAS HDDs with 10 TB SSDs? Muh $10,000 could go toward a better GPU, CPU, or stick of RAM. And if one of my 10 TB HDDs breaks, I'll have to get another one. It'll be chucked 5 feet down by UPS into a shitty cart, 100 more packages will meteorically impact into the shitty cart on top of it, the shitty cart will then be rattled on into the lobby of my corporate serf colony, the mail room staff -- IF YOU CAN CALL THEM THAT -- will carelessly manhandle all of the packages as they fight off a hangover, and my new, virbation-sensitive HDD will eventually find its way to me DOA.

It's a sad fucking state of affairs. Fuck HDDs. "Fuck you," replies the salience of $10,000.

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I bought an 120gb Samsung SSD like 4 years ago and I will jump to a 1TB SSD when I buy a new motherboard/CPU with Zen 2 in March 2019.

It's so good for Windows use, but some games just really demand it.

Best purchase ever.

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>Because an SSD will improve performance more than a better GPU, CPU, and more RAM combined

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>tfw you have an HDD at work and it takes like 5 minutes to completely boot up
>tfw you open a pdf for the first time and it takes like 15 seconds for Foxit to launch
How do people live like this

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My PNY 240gb SSD died last night.REEE

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>no benefits besides boot time
HDD fag detected

>he does not have an M.2 NVMe SSD
poor man

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>it takes like 5 minutes to completely boot up
Your work PC has other problems that an SSD won't really fix.

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>Pay $500 for 14TB or pay $1000 for 1TB SSD

>YFW you didn't fall for the SSD meme

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>for video games and reddit
please explain them to me

Black Ops 4 is 60gb
>muh AAA meme
aside, if I want to install that on an SSD so I can load into the lobby faster it will cost me approximately $78 worth of storage according to your own numbers

Is the 20 second faster load time worth $78?

oh but i do fellow user

>SSD doesn't improve performance in video rendering, audio editing, 3D rendering, compiling or anything but booting up your computer faster
>G-GO BACK TO /v/ xDDE E

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>cheapass kingston 240 gig ssdnow i got 4 years ago when i was in canada (br) still working
>$99 canadian dollars when 1 cad = 2.2 brl
>ssds are STILL more expensive in brazil
probably my best decision ever. ssds are amazing

Daily reminder that you are a waste of carbon

hey now you can also search the drive faster!

Woah, like you have so much to search on that 25GB drive you only store your OS on

The difference is the latency.

You can get a 512gb nvme drive for the same price as a decent 6tb hard disk.

Most people who get SSD's already have multiple hard disks.

>this retarded false dichotomy
Kill yourself, my man.

YES BUT IT IS FASTER OKAY

NEVER MIND THAT YOU TURN YOUR COMPUTER ON WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND GO TO MAKE COFFEE TO COME BACK TO A FULLY BOOTED MACHINE

Daily reminder that intelligent use of rsync is unironically preferable to RAID1 on Linux.
W o w

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>GO TO MAKE COFFEE TO COME BACK
??
Are you too poor for one of these too, user? We really need UBI.

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>only boot times and load times are affected
>FPS won't be ass that doesn't make sense right why would games and virtually other program be doing disk I/O, making that a bottleneck?

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Nigga my main hard drive is like 90% full and boots in a flat 10 seconds

*sips*
yep
drip was a good coffee

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Daily reminder that RAID is not a backup. It may look like one but it doesn't protect your data against lightning or malware for instance. Also drives purchased at the same time and used similarly are likely to fail at around the same time, making a fatal second failure before the first is replaced and regenerated more likely.

*sip*
Step aside lads.
Superior taste coming through.

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daily reminder that you should be able to back up anything important on a fucking flash drive

>not having terabytes of data sets

Daily reminder that yeah but cmon user were all friends here it's totally a backup lol.
But, per that "yeah", rsync is actually superior in backupedness in that it IS a backup. It's a slow fucking version of the RAID1. Done correctly, it can even handle renamed files and dirs. It's insanely cool. The problem, of course, is that backup interval. The coolness of RAID1 is the instantaneity. It's a philosophical debate, you know how it is.

Lol
Not even that, user. Not backup critical important data sets (tend to be smol cuz text and shit) to cloud via Dropbox as locally-encrypted blobs that you decrypt and modify in RAM on the zweifluger.

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*sip*
>he brews coffee from beans that haven't been passed through a weasel

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All of my boot disks are SSDs. All of them. Then I have like 15TB of storage in my NAS that I can access anywhere in the world I have internet access.
I am cloud.

Kirkland has that, and it's the best and only coffee you need. Light roast too, for most complex flavor AND most caffeine.

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>k cups
MMM I SURE LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT

That looks like regular breakfast blend and not proper weasel shit coffee. Also k-cups < pre-ground < whole beans in a grinder.

I wish that anyone stupid enough to waste money on a SSD would be killed off

Ikr. But something's gotta give.
Between the environment and my convenience, the environment can go fuck itself. Not living in isolated arcologies to minimize exposure to nanoplastics and the maluses of climate change before transcending to digital substrate before being thus easily to colonize space and live in O'Neil cylinders in belt nations around the Sun and leaving this shitty mudball behind is living in the past, gramps.

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get a fucking $60 SSD as your boot drive you fucking queer

So is everyone in this thread schizophrenic or just pretending to be ?

y

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I don't care about the speed but SSDs are quiet.

BUT WHY
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>tfw tryna unnastan SSDs
youtu.be/rSSEXD_9l4A

running adobe software and working with huge files is nice with an SSD
ultimately it depends on what you're doing, but a lot of software benefits from faster storage

a 500gb SSD is £100, at that point it makes a suitable boot drive big enough for several games/documents/video/music while long term storage is relegated to my NAS.

On what planet can you get 3 TB HDD for $1 and 1 MB SSD for $1?

LMAO

The sad part is getting five 1 MB SSDs is cheaper than one 5 MB SSDs.
I blame the fucking fabs. Shitty scale currently. And 3DNAND fucking when?

near-instantaneous opening of programs; 10 second boot time from cold boot. These add up.

SSD prices have fallen quite a bit this year and this trend is expected to continue in 2019.

extremetech.com/computing/279591-ssd-prices-could-collapse-in-2019

tomshardware.com/news/ssd-prices-drop-2019-prediction,37982.html

Color me convinced and excited.

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If you really haven't experienced the major difference between having your OS and programs on a SSD compared to a HDD then you should absolutely go by a SSD immediately, it's like night and day. Just get a small one, you can get a 120GB SSD for $30 these days. They are really cheap. Or pay $50 for a 240 GB SSD. It's totally worth it. A small one is enough, there's no point in storing movies and things like that on a SSD.

It really will. HDDs were a bit slower and I was on a Athlon II x3 when I got my first SSD years ago. I remember that upgrade as something which was a lot more noticeable than upgrading CPU/motherboard/RAM between generations of those, it really was a huge difference. As for going from that first 128 GB SSD to a more modern 512 GB SSD later.. meh.

Then by all means, run RAID1. I have two different 500 GB SSDs in RAID1 for my OS. One dying is fine, if both die at the same time then I'll have to re-install the OS and that's it.

No way I'm going back to having my OS on a HDD if I have a choice.

1TB SSD's are like $200 now. Prices have fallen a lot the last few months.

Next thing you know someone will figure out how to mine bitcoin on SSDs and you'll be paying 50x current retail

better buy now to be safe

user, have you ever chipped away at a NAND chip? Inside, it's just like brittle, black, glittery sand.
You can't mine BTC on sand.

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Jow Forumsold standard

guys, just get dual drives?

Do you mean hybrids?
youtu.be/P1apG6YCn6k

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What are y'all muhfuckas doing that's so important that you have to count how many seconds it takes your machine to boot and how long programs take to launch?

Shit used to be measured in minutes, now y'all crying 'cause it's counted in seconds and still want faster?

>all those people thinking an SSD only speeds up program loading times
Learn how a computer works and how programs are loaded and you will see why an SSD will improve general system responsiveness.

It took me a while to, but I got tired of the slowness. It is far more noticeable on Windows than Linux. Boot times are not an issue because I just use sleep mode.

>2TB
are those still single side?

the point of an SSD is to quickly boot your OS and your important programs. if you don't mind waiting, or don't value your time.. you don't need it

in the event that you don't give a shit just use a regular HDD for storing all your japanese rape cartoons

I've said for years that the faster computers are, the slower they run. Back in the day, you'd start a make, get up and get a coffee, sit down, read usenet and then it would finish. That make job could now take 1 minute. Not long enough to do anything else, but more then long enough that it's very annoying.

Speed is not why I use an SSD. On my desktop, the lack of spinning rust means no noise. In my laptop, an SSD consumes a tenth of the power, giving me far more battery life on a smaller battery pack. That SSDs are also faster is just icing on the cake.

>quickly boot your OS
I reboot my computer once ever 4 months. Why do I need to shave 30 seconds off the boot time?

Oh wait, you use Windows.

If you game I'd really recommend it. I made the jump on my new build, and for gaming it's so worth it. No game I play has a load screen of more than 3-5 seconds these days.

>noise complaint on a desktop
my hard drive is like the third noisiest thing on my PC and my pc isn't very loud

I used to have an old alienware that sounded like a jet engine taking off but after upgrading to a real computer like 8 years ago I've never noticed a difference

is the same user

but you have to put the game on the SSD, which for most modern games is just not financially viable unless you play the same 2-3 games all the time

I install and play a lot of AAA games and they are usually upwards of 50gb.

Keurigs are not coffee you fat lazy faggot

>why was your computer even off in the first place?
Sounds like you don’t pay for power. You’ll work out why people turn there power draining machines off when they aren’t using them when you move out.

>mfw there are still people wary of SSDs in 2018

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It was hyperbole, I turn my computer off at night and on in the morning

I have about 5-10 games that I play on a regular basis, some are older/smaller games (TF2, RO2, BF4, etc.) but I have some new AAA games on there too. It's surprising how far 512gb goes when you're using the drive only for OS and games. If you do generally play many, many games at once then a 1tb is probably a better option, but 512gb has been more than enough for me.

I pay for all the utilities in my house, the only time my machines are off is when I need to swap out hardware of if I'm rearranging my home office.

Yeah, the 40¢/mo it costs leaving my computer in sleep mode is really making a dent in my budget.

>Sounds like you don’t pay for power.
Don't you have Sleep or Suspend where you live?

do you like your ssd/hdd? sleep mode and hibernate like to write your ram to the drive while it's off. more reads / writes = more ded

I know what you mean. But eh, I have money invested and a trust fund, so I can rationalize past the fiscal irresponsibility to a point.

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The absolute state of poorfags too poor to afford a $100 ssd. Jesus christ.

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Buy a fucking 120GB for $28 then.
They aren't expensive.

I'll never go back to playing games on HDD.
My gaming PC have only SSD and the only PC with HDDs is my HTPC, which still have two SSD in it.

Has anyone here been able to set up full disk encryption dm-crypt/LUKS on an SSD? From what i've read there's issues with it and TRIM support

>inb4 use hardware encryption

Yeah like i'd trust some proprietary chink solution...

They're 100% worth it in a laptop or if you play vidya. If you only use a desktop that you never turn off and never have to access media on the drive for anything, then it might not be

can ANYONE provide me with a benefit for video games that isn't superficial load times

do you do anything that requires high IOPS?

it's redundancy, not a backup.