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Just got Magni 3. Listening to my HD598 while I wait for HD6XX in the mail.

So far 598 feel more alive with an amp. Been listening to them for the past 4 years without an amp.

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>Just got Magni 3

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Whats wrong with it?

>Whats wrong with it?
That's the fun part about schiit, you don't know which defect you'll have until you get the package. It's like gacha.

lol I think mine works alright, how can I know if it has a defect?

Nice headphones.

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Looking for a inexpensive DAC (less than 100CAD or 80USD).

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>buying schiit for his sennheiser

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Fiio E10K

Wait. It might develop in a day, a week, or a month. That's just how it is with Schiit.

I never heard Schiit problems with their entry level Magni or Modi...

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What's better in that price range?

what do you propose?

I have. Many such cases!

if you were planning on buying a dac as well then you should have just saved an extra hundred or two for STAX. if you weren't planning on buying a dac then you didn't really need an amp in the first place for that hd6xx unless you planned on doing EQs like bass boosting which the hd6xx or hd600 aren't good headphones for in the first place

topping d10 my nibba.

What STAX exactly? :/

I dont care about overblown bass I had 598 for a while now and it has perfect amount of bass for me

srs-3100

try this:
youtube.com/watch?v=t6kXb0NL1PE
Do you hear something fucked up in the highs?

Yeah I was thinking in 100-200 range lol

Plus I dont want Stax headphones for now, maybe later on

Nope, sounds clear and nice. Im using the high gain option on magni 3 (headphones 598)

Good song though

why would he have something fucked up in his treble? schiit products definitely have problems but you're not going to hear a difference, moron

Looks like a fucking toaster.

I'm playing this on my HD 595 and it says fine plugged into my PC

there's a problem, that song's mastered like shit and there's a lot of clipping in there, if you can't hear it then there's something really wrong with your amp

idk lol sounds good to me

thats all that matters to me

Based

Schiit’s Gadget was announced last year, but now they have been silent about it and there’s no info about when it’s going to release. What gives?
schiit.com/news/news/schiit-previews-the-gadget

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ask on reddit :)

i've got a pair of sony 1000xm2
how do i make them sound good with my rockboxed benjie t6

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Because it's retarded
youtu.be/EKTZ151yLnk

W-what happened to the op picture?

i watched 1 min and was like wtf 440 and 432 sound the same shit....then he dropped the red pills

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420Hz is better

>440 and 432 sound the same shit
yikes

So what about them bluetooth headphones? Phones these days don't have a headphone jack, so bluetooth it is for me. Any recommendations?

reposting from last thread, dx3 pro vs a30/d30?

get a dap

Modi 3 + Magni 3, made in honest to God USA (God bless) instead of Shentzen, China.

im getting conflicting answers here. Some say Schiit is shit, some say its good.

Idk what to get

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MOOH-BE00BT bluetooth version of the rbh hp-2 (urbanfun ts-1)

no thanks I want my product to actually work

Schiit is awful. I've owned more Schiit products than any other person in /hpg/.

user, doesn't that just make you the dumbest person in /hpg/?

Bought used, sold used. So didn't lose any money.

I know I'm just fucking with you senpai

>Rafe has had control over Innerfidelity for over a half of a year now
>only things he has done are a product announcements and a couple of ”muh audio lifestyle feels” posts
What the fuck is he wasting his time on?

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What amp do you use now and for what headphones?

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SRM-717 w/ L700 + 007

ok but you are comparing a $1000+ amp to a $100 amp

I'm not, I'm remarking on Schiit's QC and CS.

ah well i hope my magni will be okay if not ill get something else

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How SBAF is allowed to be this based?

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is that AMP/DAC or just AMP?

why do you post?

>super best schiit investors in charge of anything
that's just the dac

I was reading up some thread about how mods on full size headphones on Head-fi. Some deaf faggot posted a mod for the Bosshifi B8s that consisted on putting plasticine on the back on the driver and putting cotton on the earcups. This supposedly tames the treble and bass, making it a more mid-centric headphone.

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Idol trash here. What's your setup like, user?
That's due to the low output impedance. These headphones are sensitive as fuck to output impedance.

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Well, did it work? I tried stuffing the cups of my X00 and it just reduced the bass to Obama levels.

I think Head-fi is full of autists

Being the gullible retard that I am, I went to store to pick up some plasticine and cotton balls and proceed to follow his instructions. Anyways, the mod sounds like shit, bass is distorted, mids sound unnatural, like fucking aliens, the treble became extremely recessed and lost all the microdetail. Needless to say that I spent the next hour digging out plasticine from my headphones. Fuck Head-fi, and fuck me for trusting some retard on the internet.

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EQ is a thing you know

Is a DAC even worth it? I mean how can someone know they need a DAC?

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So I went and bought hd600 meme. They are fucking good. Better than brainwavzs anyhow. I am getting that feeling in my spine from sound again. Money well spent.

I'll just stick to that

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Head-fi is fucking cancer
>people falling for the most blatant snake oil like expensive cables
>threads tend to turn into fanclubs where proper criticism is instantly shut down by fanboys
>Jude protecting the advertisers
>full of boomers who keep posting zero-information messages like ”hahaha that’s cool Phil” making for shit signal-to-noise ratio

Even SBAF is ultimately better, despite being an audio cult, and that sure tells you something about Head-Fi.

its okay, everyone makes mistakes

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I have Brainwaivz HM5, I rarely use them :/

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meme tier
Most new phones have good enough DAC nowadays

And before someone says something about me complaining about signal-to-noise ratio despite browsing /hpg/, I’m just gonna iterate that all kinds of shitposting and zero-information messages are easier to skim over on Jow Forums because the formatting is so much tighter. But in forums like Head-Fi, it actually becomes really annoying really fast to see messages that contain no actual talking points because it’s so slow to wade through them.

Im talking about desktop use DAC.

Doesnt the motherboard have a DAC already?

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Headband handles on mine just shattered apart after many repairs and I couldn't find replacement on Ali so I said fuck it and got hd600.

Yeah, mine are still like new but I know about the headband issue

I was already rolling in the floor from the start of the video. The "schilling" thing almost killed me.

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I disagree. headfi is full of noise but sbaf is disinformation

Yes but I'd imagine most onboard audio is pretty shit, unless you bought a good sound card.

If you can get audio out from your computer, then yes, it has a DAC. It’s just that it could be anything from good enough to pure shit (literal buzzing when doing shit on PC) depending on how it is implemented on the mobo.

I have ASRock AB350M Pro4.

It says it has ELNA Audio Caps, I have no idea what is that kek

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what do caps do?

Mobo dac/amp quality can't really be inferred too heavily from a spec sheet as far as I know, it's the implementation that matters

I see, then a 100$ or so DAC should be enough?

I see people suggesting this little fella: Topping D10

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This. You have stuff like 99 dollar Fulla 2 and 999 dollar ADI-2 seemingly containing the same DAC chip at core, but ultimately they perform so differently that there’s nothing common with them.

Would replacing the K240 pads with Beyerdynamic pleather ones bring out the bass more, instead of going for the velour?

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Idiotic OP BTFO

That's way too much cotton, you're choking the driver. That mod is fucking retarded though, if you want to learn how to mod dynamics look at the beyer dt770/880/990/250 line, they all use the same driver.

Large peak of impedance in the upper bass area causes sound to be veiled? I didn't know that.
I had never seen a direct correlation between veiled headphones and certain frequency response.
I wonder what of the HD600 then? They were often described as veiled by many.

I understand that tying words to measurements is a difficult subject, due to one being subjective and other being objective, but it was one subject I really wanted to do further research in (academic research, that is). Really interested to know how you came to his conclusion.

>HD600 veiled
The HD600 is described as clear if anything (opposite of veiled).
The HD650 is the "veiled" one. My hypothesis is that it's up to two things:
- Darker thus less treble = veil
- Significant (more than HD600) upper bass hump = veil

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hd600 are neutral to the point of being boring and uninteresting to listen to

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Seriously fuck off dumbass mods.
Imagine doing it FOR FREE? Absolutely pathetic.

Additionally, AIUI the HD650 needs more power, thus is more likely to suffer distortion ("softening up the edges" aka transients gone) due to an insufficient source.
What's interesting or not is the music, not the headphones. Neutral (ideally) means the music is given to you as-is. With audio, you can "enrich" this and that, but you'll erase more and more actual detail on the way.

the hd600 aren't actually neutral, I was just fucking with you saying neutral means boring. neutral sounds great

I can't win, they deleted my hitler-chan as well

>Wanted
More neutral than HD600 with similar or less distortion.

stax

Fuck off back to r*ddit, idiot.

Extra points if not over 9k $.

kek, I knew that would bother you that I was the OP of both. defend the mods deleting one pic but not the other

So how does Massdrop work? Australia user here, should I be concerned with how long this will take to arrive at my house if I join "the drop"?

massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-hd-58x-jubilee-headphones

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Not really. It has neutral midrange which makes vocals great, but it also has a midbass hump, very strong subbass rolloff and somewhat recessed areas in treble. It’s not as neutral as people tend to say and because of that, if someone finds HD600 boring, it would be too hasty to say that neutral headphones suck.