My brain is getting overwhelmed with all the passwords I have to remember, both important and not
1 for each credit card, the credit union, the roth ira, amazon, three different email accounts, health insurance account, skype, home and work computer passwords, amazon, ssh and pgp keyring passwords, password for my account on work's vpc, admin account password, the password for the HR app, and who knows what else I can't think of at the moment.
How do people easily and securely deal with all these passwords?
>How do people easily and securely deal with all these passwords? I use an algorithm. Unique strong pws everytime. I don't have to remember each password.
What do you mean you use an algorithm and you don't have to remember passwords
James Collins
It's a recent Apple feature pushed out in an ios update.
Cons: Password is completely fucked if you're on a non-mac device.
Robert Russell
just get an open source one, audit the code yourself, compile it yourself, and you know it's trustworthy
Luke Cook
>What do you mean you use an algorithm and you don't have to remember passwords Pretty much just that. I have a process that I use to make passwords in my head, and that's what I use to make passwords. I don't input passwords instead I solve an equation, and input that I guess.
Julian Collins
keepass
Luke Barnes
Thanks user
Chase Gray
specifically keepass 2.whatever it is on Windows and keepassdroid on Android
Kayden Reed
keepassxc friend
Luke Gutierrez
Thanks frens
Luke Robinson
keepass2
Henry Long
I guess you could make passwords based on a hash of certain arbitrary properties of the account, e.g. url of the website, year you made it, etc
Mason Moore
2018 Not using a passphrase Kys
Luis Reed
write it on a piece of paper and put it in your wallet if you're paranoid then use a code ring
Jeremiah Robinson
>uses google >calls others retarded
Grayson Cruz
Trick there is to use at least three different algorhyms. Otherwise one comprimised password could lead very easily to the rest
Jace Sanders
Unironically write them down on a physical piece of paper. A password that's simple enough for you to remember is not a good password. Also use a password manager where possible.
Then you need a manager to manage your algorithms.
Henry Howard
user, here's my method:
A few years back I downloaded keepass, created a kdb file, and spent a whole weekend resetting passwords on every account I could find (went through my emails for every 'account' I could find). New passes were generated by the program.
I still hold the passwords for the keepass file and my email account in my head, everything else I simply don't know. It's all in the file.
This is nearly zero hassle. Service gets compromised? Idgaf, worst case I reset a single account. Worst thing is being sure the kdb is backed up and it's available on all the systems I sign in from.
Can recommend.
Parker Torres
I just write them all down to be honest.
Elijah Butler
There's one called pwsafe that has an option to store its file on applel's iCloud. Maybe storing the kdb file on some kind of cloud storage would be an effective solution. Possibly a self-hosted one if you're paranoid
Jaxon Diaz
>Writing them down Not a bad option to be honest. Worst threat is a physically present, interested party.
But it protects again the biggest threat, online compromise.
Evan Peterson
For sure, I sync on Google drive.
Luis Hall
I lock the paper in a safe. So somebody has to steal my keys in which case I'm probably already dead/injured/arrested so I probably have bigger problems.
Brandon Evans
>not storing it in a git repo
Bentley Miller
Isn't git for code?
Caleb Campbell
>Implying I give a fuck about code monkey meme systems.
Adam Price
git is mainly meant for code but it can used for just about any kind of file I'm pretty sure.
Christopher Wright
pass. It's free software, like 50 lines of code, and it just uses GPG.
Use long sentences with spaces. Easy to remember and secure. Example: "My most amazing accomplishment today is watching anime."
Dominic Powell
Math/CS people I'm tired and don't want to think. Is using a personal simple password and salting it with the domain name then hashing with sha256 vulnerable? Obviously you wouldn't tell people the strategy.
Alexander Stewart
I have two passwords one for shit i do care about and one for shit I dont if you have any more than that you're a moron
Josiah Roberts
whos going to try and crack your password you larping retard?
Jason King
>he memorizes passwords >he doesn't write them down encrypted in a notebook just memorizing the encryption algorithm I made one myself, not just passwords but forum, email and game accounts too all backed up in a txt file and physical notebook.
>A password that's simple enough for you to remember is not a good password. I'm pretty sure almost everyone has their password in "muscle memory" after a while?
I ususally memorize new complex passwords by turning the characters into _vivid_ images relating to them (do not use abstract ideas, but things you can imagine). One way of doing this might be to use a word starting with the character you need to memorize. Special chars need special images. Numbers might be memorized using the "mnemonic major system" (google), or by using images that are generally associated with the number.
There are generally two ways to memorize those images long-term: 1) Story Method or 2) Loci Method.
Using the story method, you turn the images that relate to the characters into a weird story where the images interact with one another. This works because while abstract characters are hard to memorize long term, a story constisting of vivid images is rather easy. Generally, the more absurd, funny, perverted etc your story is, the better you will memorize it.
Using the Loci Method, you pick a route that you know and can picture well in your head, then pick a certain amount of vivid/memorizable points on that route and place your images on those points.
So to remember the sequence aWF$k5L pick some words (Jow Forums edition): antifa-guy (a), waifu (W), foot (F), dollar note ($), key (k), the pentagon (5), loot (L). Now picture a small antifa-guy running away scared (a), who gets followed by your giant favorite Waifu (W, you autist) and gets stomped by her giant foot (F). She forcibly takes his money ($) and finds a small key wrapped in the bills (k). It turned out she's infront of the pentagon (5, conspiracy!) which she opens with the key, only to find a giant Loot bounty (L) inside. Remember the absurdity of the story makes it memorable.
Because in stories you might miss an image, or mess up the order, ppl usually use the Loci Method (google).
Juan Kelly
literally a folder full of text files
Jordan Peterson
cont:
Of course, this is probably only for people who don't want things written down, and part of it is also just recreational.
Now this might seem like a lot of effort, but it's a pretty safe way to remember abstract things long term. And if you use this for passwords, as you reiterate the story in your head, you quickly build muscle-memory and won't need the story anymore (it can still be found even years later though, depending on how well you organize the mnemonic systems you use.) The same methods can be used to memorize pretty much everything using some modifications, and are generally used by people competing in memory championships.
Some links: Loci method (place images efficiently) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci Major system (memorize any number with any precision) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system artofmemory.com forum and their wiki contains a lot of material, but it's pretty low-quality content to filter through. There are a lot of scam-artists in this field too, so don't believe everything you hear.
Tyler Morris
Dis
Dominic Cox
by cleaning your room first
Ryder Scott
I use KeePass. It's a nice, convenient, secure and FREE password manager.
Thomas Allen
Since you're too dumb, just use 1 2 3 4 for all your passwords.
Jose Richardson
based and redpilled
Logan Hill
Quads linking to google.... nice bait moot
James Ramirez
I sometimes think i am too dumb for modern world. I am tired of writing passwords multiple time a day, i could get easily lost in the city or even in shopping mall. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Matthew Anderson
>just get an open source one, audit the code yourself
what's this mess with keepass versions? whats the best/recommended one?
David Clark
I recently started to do this after getting tired of having to use keepass for all my shit. Highly recommend, way more convenient than keepass, with 3 or so variations of it the security is pretty great too. And the bonus of not having it written anywhere period.
Ian Flores
>what is a password manager KeePassXC for offline password storage Bitwarden if you need it to be synced accross multiple devices (You can still export the offiline database and sync it manually, its just a pain in the ass) Create one master password and protect all the other ones in a encrypted database Use 2FA And memorize the ones you cant afford to lose in case you don't have access to your database, like your phone and email passwords Next time google your fucking problems before making a thread on Jow Forums
What's all this keepass, keepassxc and keepass 2? Whats the difference between each of them?
Ethan Morgan
From what I know, and I haven't done a lot of research about, so dont quote me on it, keepass was the og program that was meant for windows, keepassx was an opensource fork for all plataforms, windows, linux and macOS, keepassxc is a community fork of keepassx, because the devs claim that the devs of keepassx are too slow So, in theory, keepassXC is the fastest in development, so the one you should use Again this is just what I know, its still better to make your own research on their differences, and what password manager suits you best