Intel + Nvidia BTFO

Even if it's less it wouldn't change anything.

>buy more expensive shitkike cpu
>it actually performs worse in literally every way

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I boughr min for 180 nov 2017 lol. So fucking glad i didnt buy a 1600, complete trash

>battlefield v, 1080p
Teeheehee.

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BASED

I, am a gamer.

lemmings btfo

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>ryzen 4.1ghz

retard doesn't even put what the 8400 is clocked at and it still doesn't matter. the 8400 is literally a budget option for intel and the 2600 still has the single core performance of i5 and i7 4 year old devil canyon cpus.

who knows maybe zen 2 will match a 3 year old skylake. lmao

You can't overclock a 8400, that's why it isn't listed

>still has the single core performance of i5 and i7 4 year old devil canyon cpus
As does Coffee Lake lol.

>retard doesn't even put what the 8400 is clocked at
Damn, we'll never know the clockspeed of a CPU which can't be under or overclocked. This mystery will die with OP.

>Jow Forums is defending benchmarks of a locked cpu vs an overclocked one with minimal gains

Meanwhile G4560 BTFO both at price/perf.

Yeah, where are the benchmarks at 480p? CHECKMATE AMDRONES!!!1!!

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Price is the only metric that matters, and the 2600 is cheaper.

What's it do on a game people actually give a shit about?

But it doesn't matter. Both CPU's are around the same price, and that's what counts here. It's Intel's fault for screwing the consumer with an inferior product

Maybe an i3 is more to your liking since it costs about the same as a 2600. It's about price vs performance after all.

LATEST INTEL CELERON HIGHER IPC/SINGLE CORE PERFORMANCE THAN 64 CORE ROME EPYC
AMD BTFO'D ETERNALLY AND COMPLETELY

Watch the video there are plenty of games to choose from. If none of them matter to you then you are not the target audience for either option. Get an i3 and use the onboard iGPU instead.

Buy a Celeron and be happy then.

lmao what retarded logic.

why not show benchmarks at the same clock speed? it doesn't matter if it's overclockable or not, most people don't even need to oc anymore therefore people are going to see these benchmarks and assume amd is a lot better when it's not the case.

the fact that amd shills are trying this hard to win the mid-range while they're getting crushed in the upper and entry level is pathetic. enjoy settling for 2nd while 1st and 3rd are won i guess.

>why not show benchmarks at the same clock speed?
Why are you asking this again? You were literally told why on one of those posts you quoted.

Because the 8400 is not a K CPU and so cannot be overclocked. Meanwhile that 2600 can for one third the price or less. Why would you not utilize a CPU to its fullest> You sad, sad little Intel apologist.

>OVERCLOCKING DOESN'T MATTER
Kill yourself, shill

okay retards, can't wait for the excuses

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Where I live, that processor is 20% more expensive than the 2600, used.

>14% higher clock speeds
>3-5% more performance
Enable messaged signaled interrupts on the 2600 and that gap will disappear (something Nvidia should do by default) Clock for clock the 2600 is clearly better in your own screenshot. It's even achieving better minimums.

>Enable messaged signaled interrupts
Are you trying to tell me Windows is not using MSIs by default?

I was being ironic
Responding to a delusional statement right there

>blaming the intel chip because ayymd can't oc that high

lmao. so the 8400 clock for clock is better than the 2600 but it's completely fair when it's overclocked versus a locked cpu but poozen can't oc as high as devil's canyon therefore it's unfair.

alright man. definitely was expecting a fair argument from the r/amd hivemind here on Jow Forums.

Yeah I see it now.

Your mental gymnastics astound me.

This only applies to poor people.
Irrelevant.

>Want to spend money wisely? You're poor.
K, kid.

>68529476
Clue: Most people don't have mountains of cash lying around, kike.

>thinking you need mountains of cash to afford an 8700k
hahahaha holy shit imagine actually being this fucking poor

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>Meanwhile G4560 BTFO both at price/perf.
Excuse me, where is the proofs?

I guess it's cool if you're stuck with a 1080p60 monitor.

Go sit in the corner and play with your Switch Timmy. Adults are discussing important financial decisions like the cost of housing and raising a family.

>tfw Intel hasn't released anything worth upgrading to
Pretty much.

Not as cool as suck marketer's and their 1440p (4k) 144hz cock, champ.

>doesn't understand less supply with continued demand means a higher price
The square doesn't fit in the circle hole.

Smokes your ass, chump.

lol previous poster hung by his own petard

>can't afford a side hobby while doing those things
hahahaha what's it like being a poor third worlder/non-white

They are LITERALLY selling for less than MSRP new

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>They are LITERALLY selling for less than MSRP new
Link or it didn't happen.

I have infinite money for a pc
why would i spend hundreds of dollars more for similar / barely better at all performance

>RTX: On

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DELET THIS ANTISEMITISM RIGHT THIS INSTANT

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>literally a budget option for intel
No, that's pentium G and i3 series.

Fucking kek

>*NEW* (some) Games don't matter!

>amazon.com/dp/B07598VZR8/?tag=pcpapi-20
>outletpc.com/km3530.html?utm_source=km3530&utm_medium=shopping+engine&utm_campaign=pcpartpicker&utm_content=Intel+-+CPUs (Processors) > Intel LGA1151&sscid=b1k2_gwl8o
>newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117827&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
How do you even manage to do day to day tasks on your own?

hey that's great but there were retards last year who ditched their perfectly good builds to buy ayymd and do mental gymnastics to defend an inferior product

right? it's like you're paid to do this

yet it still blows amd the fuck out lmao

>4.8ghz
>worse minimums

based

>Black Friday deals
Nice try goym

I am honestly astounded by the mental gymnastics of amdrones

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>yet it still blows amd the fuck out lmao
Intel's 9th gen has a ~5% lead. Not exactly blowing it out.

amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F
umad?

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You are replying to the porginal poster of that image :)

nope

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>original
damned fingers

I'm telling you Nvidia's drivers do not use MSI's by default, and it wastes cycles / memory accesses which has more of a penalty on zen due to the memory latency.

>800Mhz difference
>Literally within spitting distance in terms of FPS
You sure told us.

>gaymes
>20% clock advantage gives ~10% performance advantage
Hey look, a faggot.

>Unironically using a Starcraft 2 as a benchmark (Single threaded DX9 game from 8 and a half years ago)
>Implying all 8700K will hit 5.0 GHz
>implying people who buy $350+ chips even push them that hard instead of saying "everything runs so good at stock I won't bother changing it!"

>10+ difference
>within spitting distance
>STILL needs $300 ram to even achieve that
o i am laffin

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Just wanted to congratulate you on a successful bait.
2/10 made me reply.
Maybe add CS:GO at 720p to your benchmark list

That's AT MSRP you fucking retard. Also, not for long. guru3d.com/news-story/intel-cuts-off-diy-desktop-processor-supply-chain-deliveries-for-q4-2018.html

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>>STILL needs $300 ram to even achieve that
>source: my ass

MSRP is $379 you fucking smooth brain

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Why don't you take a look at the image I posted, here better yet. ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4-70-GHz-
Take it directly from Intel since you love sucking their cock so much.

>Hey man, you can totally buy the 8700k (((below MSRP right now)))
Yeah, thanks. I totally want to buy a CPU (((on sale))) at the bottom end of MSRP..
>B-but goyim, bottom end of MSRP is 359, amazon has it for 358.89
OH BOY TEN CENTS OFF + GETTING TAXED ON ONLINE GOODS.

yet they still defend benchmarks that put a locked budget cpu against an overclocked one

the actual state of r/amd

samefag

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>1771w cooler doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>Free RAID doesn't matter!
>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>IPC doesn't matter!
>7nm doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>HEDT doesn't matter!
>Stock coolers don't matter!
>Security doesn't matter!
>Games don't always matter!
>Enterprise doesn't matter!
>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!
>VMware doesn't matter!
>MySQL doesn't matter!
>Unix doesn't matter!
>Linux doesn't matter!
>Waffer yields don't matter!
>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!
>Asian markets don't matter!
>Own fabrics don’t matter!
>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!
>Cray doesn't matter!
>Cisco doesn't matter!
>HPE doesn't matter!
>AZURE doesn't matter!
>*NEW* 5nm doesn't matter!
>*NEW* TDP doesn't matter!
>*NEW* 10nm doesn't always matter!
>*NEW* Cache doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Integrated graphics doesn't matter!
>*NEW* PCI-Express 4.0 doesn't matter!

>locked budget cpu
Same fucking price. "What can I do for $200"
One's unlocked one isn't. Fuck.

You forgot some, let me help.
>Product availability doesn't matter!
>Price doesn't matter!
>95c is fine!

Looks like you are suffering from brain Meltdown and 28+ other defects. Shame nobody can patch it.

It's at least 35+ now. Some new ones came out last week. Only 1 of the 7 affects AMD and isn't major.

>11 more fps
>much more expensive CPU
WOW INTEL JUST CRUSHES AMD AGAIN
>overclocking closes even more the gap even having way lower clock speeds
HAHA AMD IS SO SHIT

This is literally margin of error tier.
From this image you can conclude nothing but that they are equivalent

the 8400 is obviously clocked at its base clock as it can't be OC'd

the best part about this is with any decent air cooler the 2600 will run at 4.1ghz on its own without manual overclocking

Also being a poorfag is not an argument for an equivalent or worse cpu costing more, spending money with no tangible benefit is just stupid

I have an i5 7600 3.8ghz how does it stand right now? Picking up a rtx2080 today (970 now) and wondering if i need a cpu upgrade aswell

do you want to buy a new motherboard and cpu for ~5% perf ?

Huh? 4 out of the 7 affects AMD. Also there is an exploit that works on AMD and ARM but not Intel

Check your facts