/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State your budget & CURRENCY
>List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing
>NO Speccy. Use HWinfo
>For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

CPU
>Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming
>R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year
>R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform
>Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans
1080p
>RX 570/580/590 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor
1440p
>Vega; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync
>Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value
OpenCL use
>Vega 64

Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models
>Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards
>FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately

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overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-nitro-8gb-hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38j-sp.html
youtube.com/watch?v=xEileqxmags
pcpartpicker.com/list/RPnHsZ
youtube.com/watch?v=WtRYdAYgJTc
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winbond.com/resource-files/w25x20cl_revf 20150806.pdf
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youtu.be/xEileqxmags?t=477
amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073F1286D
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

amazon.com/d/Computer-Graphics-Cards/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Support-06G-P4-6163-KR/B01IPVSLTC
I'm really tempted to get this, but I'm worry if one fan is enough or not. I'm currently running EVGA GeForce GTX 660 at the moment.

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First for poo

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my friend has this. it's fine with 1 fan. you can't even hear it and it doesn't get hot either.

Intel indians are here to shit in your thread.

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I'm about to get a 1070 ti for £369.99 on Amazon. It's between that a 1080 or 1070 but this seems to be the best deal out of all of them price/perf wise. If anyone knows of any better deal with the 1070 or 1080 please share.

I have a single-fan 1060.
Unless your case has limited airflow it's not an issue. And "issue" looks like limited OC. It's more of a noise concern than throttling concern.

I'm currently running a 1060 3gb, but looking to upgrade.
Is a Vega 64 complete overkill considering Overclocks have it at £389.99
overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-nitro-8gb-hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38j-sp.html

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Define limited airflow. My left side panel has a hole and there are fan port on the top, the back, the front, and an "opening" on the bottom of my tower. I don't care about the noise, but I'm more concern about the heat.

There is still vega 56 for 300, get this one. Clock for clock in gamning they're withing 1% of each other.

does the 580 really get that hot? anyone got any benchmarks?

The 56 shows up as pre-order only, am I too late too the party?

>tfw no matter if it is AMD or Intel I will be forced to support pajeets one way or the other

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£390 for custom vega 64 is really nice

whats that under the card?

Gotta order a custom decal and backplate to make the K-On! Meme 4870

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Ah yeah then its probably sold out, 389 for 64 is still a really good deal I would buy if i didnt own vega already.

>work at Intel
>Pajeets literally everywhere
You cannot escape them

superpower by 2020

A brace to help mitigate GPU sagging.

Where can I buy the 6.5ghz processor? I have a use for that.

THEY KNOW! EXECUTE ORDER P001NL00!

youtube.com/watch?v=xEileqxmags

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>Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11GB GDDR5X
640 euroshekels

Y/N?

7nm zen 2 will be supported on am4 right? was hoping i could use picrelated and pickup some cheap ddr4 in the future.

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Out of the cheaper 1080ti', they're not a bad cooler design. If it's a reasonable saving, get it.

give me tl;dr im not giving him clicks

where? i can't find any 1080Tis for

Rx 590 is another scam from amd

Best b350 to keep up oc on 2200g?

>rebranding/renaming/rereleasing is all just marketing
>gets them the initial review cycle
>then the "rumor" cycle of a "new" card
>then the updated review cycle
>some customers are actually stupid enough to fall for it
>especially when they are baited with 3 games

>shitstar
vomitinganimegirl.jpg

No GPU?

Anyone knows why Vega is so God damn overpriced in Brazil? It's retailing for 800 usd the 56 and 64 (the same price, yes really).

lmfao
Guess this is what happens when you try to flog a product that's not ready for sale

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how is the MSI RX 580 MK2? I just ordered it

at $40 i know what i'm getting into, am4 itx boards don't drop below $100.

Literally nobody cares about brazil and its your retailers butt fucking you because why not.

The cheapest 1080Ti i can find is on EVGAs store for 809eur.

It's just out of stock, probably from selling like hotcakes. AMD shills are getting desperate I see.

Probably fine. A bit hotter and louder than some others. Don't expect to overclock it.

Hi I have this old GTX960 in my setup. I am considering getting a rx580 as a replacement because I use a lot of gnu/linux for work and sometimes casual FHD gaming. From your experience. Hows drivers for linux? Because nvidia-* is barely usable and always break my system. Now I am running of off nouveau.

pcpartpicker.com/list/RPnHsZ

Incompatibility is due to drive because PCPP doesn't recognize external enclosure.

>lol $500 amd cards btfo by $1000 Nvidia cards

I'll wait for a deal on a better one.

Spanish website, pre Black Friday deals, 'pccomponentes'.

Also I'd like a bigger SSD as well, should I be concerned about form factor that much?

It's more to do with the fact they can't produce them in large enough quantities as opposed to recalling a product line. The reason why 2080ti stock has more often than not been "out of stock" everywhere since they were listed, and yet 2080 stock is sitting dormant on shelves.

besides the powercolor one, whats the best RX 580 I can get below $230?

You mean $400 amd card and $1300 nvidia

thanks, time to laugh even harder

Dude, they're all the same. You get what you pay for at this point with RX 580s. Either spend on one with a good, well-reviewed cooler or get one with a shitty (but adequate) cooler and run it at stock speeds or undervolt/underclock it a bit for cooler performance. Polaris ships to consumers hilariously overvolted usually.

I know this is a month old, but basically this
youtube.com/watch?v=WtRYdAYgJTc

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Looking for solid machine for heavy computation and multithreading
Currency no more than 3000 USD
Monitor not important
Would use Windows 7 on side drive if it works I have a second HDD
pcpartpicker.com/list/n8KhZR

Thanks for any input Jow Forumsentlemen

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2019 is looking bretty gud for AMD in all honesty. Vega hitting the sweet spot for performance/price, RX 590 to clean up in the low- and mid-tier, and Navi.

>heavy computation and multithreading
>8700k
I'd look into Threadripper or Xeon platforms if you're serious about multithreaded CPU compute. The 8700k is a consumer chip.

Ryzen 5 2600 for £145, should I snap this up or hold on for a better deal? What were the reductions like on previous black fridays?

navi is low to mid tier. the best navi will compete with the 2060 and is being used in the ps5. it's a cheap but slow chip and won't be good enough to compete with the 2070 or 7nm 2070 if nvidia release one next year

No GPU?

2080s collecting dust is really easy to explain: price. Everyone in the market for the latest and greatest already bought a Ti, sometimes multiple because richfags just couldn't be bothered to RMA failing cards and instead just order new ones, and the rest just wants a card that fits their purposes without having to sell a kidney. The 20 series, just in order to actually sell well, should be priced as follows for the basic editions of the model: 400 for 70s, 550 for 80s, 750 for Tis with better models(factory OC'd, better heat sink/fan etc.) sitting somewhere between them. Not this bullshit 600, 800, 1200 AMD allowed Nvidia to pull because they simply don't pose a threat to them.

>Navi
So, we're only just catching up to where we should have been in the late 90s?

Just came here to post this, guess I was too late. Saw several people in last thread who fell for the 590 scheme and who never bothered to compare benchmarks with price.

Maybe that's what that guy spamming about ''value being subjective'' was angry about?

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Are rosewill keyboards any good? Most of them look like hot garbage to me but this one looks decent

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should i get an nh-d15 or use the liquid cooling meme

>the liquid cooling meme
Don't fall for it.

The thing is that a 8700k doesn't really make sense unless you're going for 5ghz on all cores which pretty much requires liquid cooling and other chips don't get hot enough to justify it.

Thank you for input. Which would you recommend user? I am willing to spend but I don't know much at all I chose 8700k because I know it just works but if there is something more powerful that is proven to work well I'm willing to put up. I am not someone who tests these things for others.

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Aight, can anyone tell me which pins to bridge for unbricking a GPU? I keep seeing 1+8, 1+5, I'm not even sure. Here's the schematics for the BIOS:

winbond.com/resource-files/w25x20cl_revf 20150806.pdf

If you're on an 8 year old card and already got a buyer lined up for the 3 games the 590 is good value. That's pretty much it tho.

Anything with gaymer aesthetics is shit and a cashgrab.
Get a real keyboard.

how is 3200 mhz vs 3000 mhz for an R5 2600?any benchmarks?

rosewill stuff is cheap, get something from like logitech or corsair

I have it. If you throw max fan spin on purpose then yeah, you can hear it, but under normal use and even at 100%, you can't hear it.

The 1060 is a rather cool GPU, which makes those one fan GPUs possible to begin with.

Fully agree with this, like why the hell would I buy a 2080 instead for a cheaper 1080Ti with almost identical performance? Because of some obscure possibility of raytracing actually becoming used by game devs at some point in the future?

Although, the consumers who are falling for Turing (other than richfags getting 2080Ti) and the 590 kinda deserves it.

True, but in how many cases would that actually happen?

Not to mention that with this bundle, ebay and its equivalents are gonna be flooded by copies of these games so I imagine their price will drop quite a bit.

also this is probably a better question for /mkg/

It's hard to say for sure. What kind of software do you use that requires heavy multithreading? Both intel and AMD's HEDT lineup currently destroys either's consumer lineup in heavily multithreaded scenarios if you can afford to pay for it.

Why is there no SFM porn of Ruby?
Are SFM creators Nvidia manbabies as well?

Why wouldn't you get a better RX580 for cheaper?

It's overkill, but at that price you may as well Just Buy It. Especially if you actually want the games or have a friend to sell them to.

Cute.

No one is being duped. Everyone knew the RX590 was just a minor die shrink to the RX580.
If not for the games promo, yes it'd be poor value.

Use an aquarium chiller.

idk. But Corsair and Razer keyboards are overpriced as shit.
Have you looked at smaller brands like Redragon and Ducky?
Rosewill quality varies. It's (sometimes good) chinkshit that Newegg rebrands.

Who software are you using? Generally Threadripper is best for a high end workstation.

>Everyone knew the RX590 was just a minor die shrink to the RX580.
It's not even a die shrink, the 12nm is just 14nm rebranded.

Ah okay then. I might get my hand on it this week. Thank you all for the feed back

Where the hell can I track down a Vega 64 Limited Edition? I'd kill to have a card with that shroud design inside my case

I have this smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7LEO6X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 , brand new, and so far it's good. I wish I could turn off the lights when I leave my PC on downloading shit at night.

youtu.be/xEileqxmags?t=477

I doubt you'd benefit much by going over 3000 for the 2600, you'd be better off going down to CL14.

Just be sure that your motherboard supports that fast RAM before buying it though.

What's the least botnet version of Windows?

Windows 2000 and earlier

best way to pirate windows 10 these days?

tomahawk

just buy a $10 key off ebay you dirty poorfag

use linux faggot

Regardless of it being a real shrink or not, the perf/watt is 5% higher.
It's 5% higher FPS at the same 185W/212W power consumption of a high end RX580.

I'm not wasting time watching Linus. He's not going to tell me anything I don't already know.
Only retards who can't put something intelligent into words use someone else speaking for them.

Just go grey market. Semi-legit and less hassle. Or use Linux, yeah.

B450M Mortar has been on sale at around $70 lately, from what I saw.

>The 1060 is a rather cool GPU, which makes those one fan GPUs possible to begin with.
Depends if it's a solid aluminum block heatsink or uses fins. There are two different models of EVGA 1060 which outwardly look the same.
Sometimes retailers use the pictures of the one with fins when they are actually selling the solid block model, to further confuse things.

I am... I'm just struggling to run some games on Linux

it's the principle of the thing

windows 1

So the 590 is still 13-22% better than 580? That's actually decent

install gentoo

The problem is it also runs hotter and uses more power and it's like what, 30-40% more expensive than decent RX 580s? It's a decent card, just a crappy value at the moment.

Over the base model at base clocks. If you're buying an OC model with actually a decent cooler (like any Strix, Nitro+ etc. ever) which is most people because fuck blowers, it's more like 5-10% for $280 MSRP and one extra game over the ~$200 580. Essentially the price difference is covered by the extra game, if you wanted that game, so it's poor value.

Placas mãe de 50 dólares custam 900 rrais na kabum

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>It's a decent card, just a crappy value at the moment.
inb4 muh 3 free games. unless you would have bought them anyway or already have a buyer, those are meaningless.

>So the 590 is still 13-22% better than 580?
It's about 10% on average.
For a 27% increase in price and power draw. And it's basically at the limit of its overclock capacity. You can buy a 580 and OC it yourself. You might not get 590 levels, but you'll get close.
A dumb card generally. A re-refresh and bad value.

>It's about 10% on average.
No, watch the video.

On that topic, do you know if the Nitro+ 580 8GB on Amazon Britannia comes with the two extra games? Could be a decent deal if it does.
>amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073F1286D

I agree there's more room in the market for a 2080ti than there is a 2080, but you're grossly overestimating the market share for >$1000 flagship GPUs.
>750mm2 die
It's not because the 2080ti is selling well, it's because yields are shithouse.