>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - If you have a $2000+ budget and don't care that it'll be superseded by 7nm CPUs next year >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Wait for R7 3700X - Surely the best overall and not a massive disappointment like the 9900k >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580/590 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
I'm about to get a 1070 ti for £369.99 on Amazon. It's between that a 1080 or 1070 but this seems to be the best deal out of all of them price/perf wise. If anyone knows of any better deal with the 1070 or 1080 please share.
Ian Cox
I have a single-fan 1060. Unless your case has limited airflow it's not an issue. And "issue" looks like limited OC. It's more of a noise concern than throttling concern.
Define limited airflow. My left side panel has a hole and there are fan port on the top, the back, the front, and an "opening" on the bottom of my tower. I don't care about the noise, but I'm more concern about the heat.
Jace King
There is still vega 56 for 300, get this one. Clock for clock in gamning they're withing 1% of each other.
Caleb Lewis
does the 580 really get that hot? anyone got any benchmarks?
Ethan Brown
The 56 shows up as pre-order only, am I too late too the party?
Leo Sullivan
>tfw no matter if it is AMD or Intel I will be forced to support pajeets one way or the other
Out of the cheaper 1080ti', they're not a bad cooler design. If it's a reasonable saving, get it.
Justin Green
give me tl;dr im not giving him clicks
Blake Cruz
where? i can't find any 1080Tis for
Xavier Taylor
Rx 590 is another scam from amd
Christopher Ortiz
Best b350 to keep up oc on 2200g?
Julian Hill
>rebranding/renaming/rereleasing is all just marketing >gets them the initial review cycle >then the "rumor" cycle of a "new" card >then the updated review cycle >some customers are actually stupid enough to fall for it >especially when they are baited with 3 games
Leo Price
>shitstar vomitinganimegirl.jpg
Jacob Robinson
No GPU?
Easton Carter
Anyone knows why Vega is so God damn overpriced in Brazil? It's retailing for 800 usd the 56 and 64 (the same price, yes really).
Henry Perry
lmfao Guess this is what happens when you try to flog a product that's not ready for sale
at $40 i know what i'm getting into, am4 itx boards don't drop below $100.
Aiden Perez
Literally nobody cares about brazil and its your retailers butt fucking you because why not.
Luis Lee
The cheapest 1080Ti i can find is on EVGAs store for 809eur.
Aiden Wright
It's just out of stock, probably from selling like hotcakes. AMD shills are getting desperate I see.
Kevin Ortiz
Probably fine. A bit hotter and louder than some others. Don't expect to overclock it.
Michael Price
Hi I have this old GTX960 in my setup. I am considering getting a rx580 as a replacement because I use a lot of gnu/linux for work and sometimes casual FHD gaming. From your experience. Hows drivers for linux? Because nvidia-* is barely usable and always break my system. Now I am running of off nouveau.
Incompatibility is due to drive because PCPP doesn't recognize external enclosure.
Jace Cooper
>lol $500 amd cards btfo by $1000 Nvidia cards
Kevin Miller
I'll wait for a deal on a better one.
Spanish website, pre Black Friday deals, 'pccomponentes'.
Also I'd like a bigger SSD as well, should I be concerned about form factor that much?
Luke Reyes
It's more to do with the fact they can't produce them in large enough quantities as opposed to recalling a product line. The reason why 2080ti stock has more often than not been "out of stock" everywhere since they were listed, and yet 2080 stock is sitting dormant on shelves.
Nathaniel Martin
besides the powercolor one, whats the best RX 580 I can get below $230?
Carter Foster
You mean $400 amd card and $1300 nvidia
Aaron Carter
thanks, time to laugh even harder
Christian Sanchez
Dude, they're all the same. You get what you pay for at this point with RX 580s. Either spend on one with a good, well-reviewed cooler or get one with a shitty (but adequate) cooler and run it at stock speeds or undervolt/underclock it a bit for cooler performance. Polaris ships to consumers hilariously overvolted usually.
Looking for solid machine for heavy computation and multithreading Currency no more than 3000 USD Monitor not important Would use Windows 7 on side drive if it works I have a second HDD pcpartpicker.com/list/n8KhZR
2019 is looking bretty gud for AMD in all honesty. Vega hitting the sweet spot for performance/price, RX 590 to clean up in the low- and mid-tier, and Navi.
Oliver Cook
>heavy computation and multithreading >8700k I'd look into Threadripper or Xeon platforms if you're serious about multithreaded CPU compute. The 8700k is a consumer chip.
Joshua Wright
Ryzen 5 2600 for £145, should I snap this up or hold on for a better deal? What were the reductions like on previous black fridays?
Zachary Long
navi is low to mid tier. the best navi will compete with the 2060 and is being used in the ps5. it's a cheap but slow chip and won't be good enough to compete with the 2070 or 7nm 2070 if nvidia release one next year
Ian Flores
No GPU?
Christopher Martin
2080s collecting dust is really easy to explain: price. Everyone in the market for the latest and greatest already bought a Ti, sometimes multiple because richfags just couldn't be bothered to RMA failing cards and instead just order new ones, and the rest just wants a card that fits their purposes without having to sell a kidney. The 20 series, just in order to actually sell well, should be priced as follows for the basic editions of the model: 400 for 70s, 550 for 80s, 750 for Tis with better models(factory OC'd, better heat sink/fan etc.) sitting somewhere between them. Not this bullshit 600, 800, 1200 AMD allowed Nvidia to pull because they simply don't pose a threat to them.
Noah Ramirez
>Navi So, we're only just catching up to where we should have been in the late 90s?
Caleb Flores
Just came here to post this, guess I was too late. Saw several people in last thread who fell for the 590 scheme and who never bothered to compare benchmarks with price.
Maybe that's what that guy spamming about ''value being subjective'' was angry about?
should i get an nh-d15 or use the liquid cooling meme
Alexander Turner
>the liquid cooling meme Don't fall for it.
Ian Kelly
The thing is that a 8700k doesn't really make sense unless you're going for 5ghz on all cores which pretty much requires liquid cooling and other chips don't get hot enough to justify it.
Adrian Turner
Thank you for input. Which would you recommend user? I am willing to spend but I don't know much at all I chose 8700k because I know it just works but if there is something more powerful that is proven to work well I'm willing to put up. I am not someone who tests these things for others.
If you're on an 8 year old card and already got a buyer lined up for the 3 games the 590 is good value. That's pretty much it tho.
Matthew Rogers
Anything with gaymer aesthetics is shit and a cashgrab. Get a real keyboard.
Nicholas Brooks
how is 3200 mhz vs 3000 mhz for an R5 2600?any benchmarks?
Tyler Wright
rosewill stuff is cheap, get something from like logitech or corsair
John Carter
I have it. If you throw max fan spin on purpose then yeah, you can hear it, but under normal use and even at 100%, you can't hear it.
The 1060 is a rather cool GPU, which makes those one fan GPUs possible to begin with.
Aiden Thomas
Fully agree with this, like why the hell would I buy a 2080 instead for a cheaper 1080Ti with almost identical performance? Because of some obscure possibility of raytracing actually becoming used by game devs at some point in the future?
Although, the consumers who are falling for Turing (other than richfags getting 2080Ti) and the 590 kinda deserves it.
True, but in how many cases would that actually happen?
Not to mention that with this bundle, ebay and its equivalents are gonna be flooded by copies of these games so I imagine their price will drop quite a bit.
Jaxon Powell
also this is probably a better question for /mkg/
Aiden Price
It's hard to say for sure. What kind of software do you use that requires heavy multithreading? Both intel and AMD's HEDT lineup currently destroys either's consumer lineup in heavily multithreaded scenarios if you can afford to pay for it.
Aaron Morris
Why is there no SFM porn of Ruby? Are SFM creators Nvidia manbabies as well?
Why wouldn't you get a better RX580 for cheaper?
It's overkill, but at that price you may as well Just Buy It. Especially if you actually want the games or have a friend to sell them to.
Cute.
No one is being duped. Everyone knew the RX590 was just a minor die shrink to the RX580. If not for the games promo, yes it'd be poor value.
Use an aquarium chiller.
idk. But Corsair and Razer keyboards are overpriced as shit. Have you looked at smaller brands like Redragon and Ducky? Rosewill quality varies. It's (sometimes good) chinkshit that Newegg rebrands.
Who software are you using? Generally Threadripper is best for a high end workstation.
Jonathan Bell
>Everyone knew the RX590 was just a minor die shrink to the RX580. It's not even a die shrink, the 12nm is just 14nm rebranded.
Jeremiah Stewart
Ah okay then. I might get my hand on it this week. Thank you all for the feed back
Alexander Gray
Where the hell can I track down a Vega 64 Limited Edition? I'd kill to have a card with that shroud design inside my case
I doubt you'd benefit much by going over 3000 for the 2600, you'd be better off going down to CL14.
Just be sure that your motherboard supports that fast RAM before buying it though.
Ryder Johnson
What's the least botnet version of Windows?
Blake Evans
Windows 2000 and earlier
Christian Rodriguez
best way to pirate windows 10 these days?
Nolan Allen
tomahawk
Levi Allen
just buy a $10 key off ebay you dirty poorfag
Carter Carter
use linux faggot
Ian Watson
Regardless of it being a real shrink or not, the perf/watt is 5% higher. It's 5% higher FPS at the same 185W/212W power consumption of a high end RX580.
I'm not wasting time watching Linus. He's not going to tell me anything I don't already know. Only retards who can't put something intelligent into words use someone else speaking for them.
Just go grey market. Semi-legit and less hassle. Or use Linux, yeah.
B450M Mortar has been on sale at around $70 lately, from what I saw.
>The 1060 is a rather cool GPU, which makes those one fan GPUs possible to begin with. Depends if it's a solid aluminum block heatsink or uses fins. There are two different models of EVGA 1060 which outwardly look the same. Sometimes retailers use the pictures of the one with fins when they are actually selling the solid block model, to further confuse things.
Nicholas Fisher
I am... I'm just struggling to run some games on Linux
Grayson Lewis
it's the principle of the thing
Jason Myers
windows 1
Josiah Brooks
So the 590 is still 13-22% better than 580? That's actually decent
David Watson
install gentoo
Samuel Rogers
The problem is it also runs hotter and uses more power and it's like what, 30-40% more expensive than decent RX 580s? It's a decent card, just a crappy value at the moment.
Ryan Rodriguez
Over the base model at base clocks. If you're buying an OC model with actually a decent cooler (like any Strix, Nitro+ etc. ever) which is most people because fuck blowers, it's more like 5-10% for $280 MSRP and one extra game over the ~$200 580. Essentially the price difference is covered by the extra game, if you wanted that game, so it's poor value.
Adrian Diaz
Placas mãe de 50 dólares custam 900 rrais na kabum
>It's a decent card, just a crappy value at the moment. inb4 muh 3 free games. unless you would have bought them anyway or already have a buyer, those are meaningless.
Luis Edwards
>So the 590 is still 13-22% better than 580? It's about 10% on average. For a 27% increase in price and power draw. And it's basically at the limit of its overclock capacity. You can buy a 580 and OC it yourself. You might not get 590 levels, but you'll get close. A dumb card generally. A re-refresh and bad value.
Nolan Sullivan
>It's about 10% on average. No, watch the video.
Mason Hernandez
On that topic, do you know if the Nitro+ 580 8GB on Amazon Britannia comes with the two extra games? Could be a decent deal if it does. >amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073F1286D
Robert Brooks
I agree there's more room in the market for a 2080ti than there is a 2080, but you're grossly overestimating the market share for >$1000 flagship GPUs. >750mm2 die It's not because the 2080ti is selling well, it's because yields are shithouse.