videogame console controls are falling way behind. im just using the ps4 as an example here. >they are basically using the same design as the ps1 controller that was launched in 1994. Thats the first generation 3D gaming.
I just got a ps4 and i notice that there is way too much going on when it comes to game mechanics compared to what the controller can handle. There are so many combinations of buttons needed to be used that every move feels like im entering a gta cheat code.
And on the other end, you have the games where the controller is basically useless. Shooting games etc. Those games are completely broken when you play on console compared to mouse and keyboard. The only things the controller is good for is controlling vehicles and very basic games like spyro etc.
I think its time to come up with a new controller that keeps up with the games we have today. The VR stuff has so many limitations and is basically the nintendo power glove of our time. Its fun and weird, but its not practical. Unless you play VR games in a machine made for that specific game, its completely useless.
I would love to hear your ideas of an upgraded console control.
>It needs to have the presition of a fingertip (instead of a thumb) >The moving range of a mouse (I think the left stick movement might actually be fine, and i know there are controls with that stick and a mouse, but that only fixes shooting game issues) >It needs a more natural, intuitive control. Thats what they try to do with VR, but VR doesnt work.
I also think some resistance would be good for many games. When i play For Honor, and move my guard from one side to the next, it takes much longer for the game to switch side than it takes for me to press the stick in the direction. If the stick had resistance and went from zero to the other side in the same speed as the game (and not allowing me to press it any further than the speed he moves it in the game) then that would be great.
the steam controller is desperately missing a second analog stick, which is definitely needed for some games. webm related, the first ~20 seconds is me using the steam controller touchpad using the button mappings the developers of the game provided, the rest is me using the analog stick on an xbox controller. i wouldn't call this an improvement at all, it's simply not working properly.
the steam controller lacks games that were designed specifically for it. games that were designed for kb+m are still better with kb+m, games that were designed for regular controllers are still better with a regular controller and games that were designed for touchscreens are still better on a touchscreen. the only thing the steam controller has going for it is customizability, but that's not a feature exclusive to the steam controller.
The PS2 controller was the pinnacle of controller design IMO. Everything after that is simply refinement and gimmicks.
Matthew Moore
The code name during development was ‘ps-x’.
Nathaniel James
>no analogue trigger Fuck outta here with your nostalgic bullshit. The PS4 pad is unironically the best controller, matched only by the Xbox360 pad
Josiah Campbell
You too. During the 90s when I had a playstation, it was very common to shorten the name to PSX. This was long before the launch of the PS2 and the DVR.
Nobody said PSOne as the smaller console had not been released yet, and nobody had even heard about a PS2 yet.
Grayson Taylor
*third try
First had no analog or vibrate Second (dual analog) had no vibrate Third (dual shock) has both
Mason Martin
No one calls consoles by their code name. Man gotta grab me some morw dolphin games
Grayson Kelly
Every single button except for L3/R3, start, and select were pressure sensitive on the PS2. Lots of games made use of this, like MGS3 that used it to decide if you should shoot or not. Press the fire button lightly, and Snake would just lift the weapon, but not fire, press it hard, and he would fire. Racing games also made good use of the feature.
David Cruz
Yeah, i remember playing Gran Turismo 4 for the first time and not understanding why the fuck my car was so slow. The pressure sensitive buttons are cool and all, but nothing beats an actual trigger with a spring for feedback, especially when it comes to racing games.
James Wood
But the gc controller exists tho
Jose Williams
We have everything you're asking for in the Steam controller but no one wants to change. There are codes or guys who are great with the Steam controller just mercing people in FPS' with headshot after headshot. It is the logical evolutionary step in controllers but it takes games also being programmed around the controller.
My opinion is that the Dualshock 4 is the best controller of all time but i could see how people might prefer the latest xbox one controller. The DS4 just feels better in my hands.
Landon Anderson
Might as well got a step further with a wheel and pedals then.
Nathan Murphy
There's never been a game that used analog triggers that wouldn't have been serbed better by another control type alltogether. For all other games they are a detriment.
Isaiah Butler
>ps2 controller >pinnacle the natural thumb position is where the d-pad and a b x y equivalents are. thumb sticks were just an afterthought. granted, this makes it good for old games and, but as soon as games started to rely more on the sticks the design was outdated. However, lets not forget about the average japanese hand size. for the rest of the world the controller can only ever be a kids toy.
while the original xbox controller was oversized as hell, xbox 360 fits in pretty much all hands + left side switched d-pad and thumb stick, making it nicer for modern games. surprisingly the xbox one controller improved on that design by moving the battery pack and the only "gimmick" added was bluetooth for the 2016 model
Luis Baker
>No one calls consoles by their code name. Except the playstation. PSX is very common, probably because "PS" is too ambiguous It was even showed in magazines, its a short and convenient codename Most other codenames are longer than more obvious shortenings, like why say ultra64 when there's n64 (some things do use "u64", in fact), or why dolphin over gcn? (Official shorthand on final product codes)
Adam Morgan
The GameCube controller is the most comfortable imo
Trying that controller was like wearing boxer shorts for the first time.
Zachary Lopez
You'd think it'd be too small, or the face buttons too weirdly shaped, but it delivers so well
Jordan Thomas
>falling behind No, trying to fuck with working controllers has been a plague on consoles for the last decade. Stop adding motion controls, stop adding touchscreens a mile from the handgrip.
There are exactly two correct controller choices, a Dualshock or a Duke.
As far as shooters go, the only console shooter ever worth your time has always only been the Halo games. Nothing else comes close to getting the design so perfectly to complement the controller as a peripheral for shooters.
As for the rest of your post, trying to make the controller more m/kb-esque is a waste. The overwhelming majority of console players don't care about AAA PC gaming and never will. They like the ease and simplicity of a controller.
Brayden Williams
Ps1
Eli Miller
My favourite console shooter is time splitters 3 on the ps2
Easton Davis
If it can't be played on a nes controller might as well grab mkb. What a waste of resources.
Levi Jones
Increase input so certain game genres can finally step out of the stone age in terms of game mechanics. Console devs create games with the default controller in mind, because nobody expects consolekiddies to buy peripherals, which results in comatose games where only graphics advances.
>My favourite console shooter is time splitters 3 on the ps2 My favorite console shooter is Perfect Dark. But I know it's not objectively better than Halo. My favorite RPG is pokemon Red. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, but I can still understand the difference between bias and actual quality.
That being said, Time Splitters 2 is good
Bentley Roberts
I enjoyed halo 1, and halo 2 multiplayer, but I still find ts3 (and to a lesser extent, 2), more fun, the campaign is more silly and fun, and the local multiplayer is more fast-paced and arcade-like
Colton Richardson
They have 2 usb max Nothing even supports kb/m anyway, itd be unfair
Fuck you.
Brandon Johnson
That’s not the XBone controller.
Isaiah Bailey
To date the best controller I like is the ps2 one, I still hate triggers and the design of the 360, the only thing it acomplished is making people hold controllers wrong,but to improve the ps2 controller I would add the gyro of the wii u and hd rumble
improved controls are having a mouse and keyboard but you need to sit at a desk to do that couch gaming is casual gaming even sitting up straight in a chair makes you pay more attention
Kevin Peterson
I don't know what the xbone controller looks like
Adrian Sanchez
>Halo Come to think of it, soon we will have people saying Fortnite is he best shooter of the generation and you fags will thing your case was different
Lincoln Clark
This
Halo is really the only shooter to understand the controller and even then that's only really true for the first 3 games. Halo Reach and onwards lost the magic
Landon Brooks
Fortnite is not strictly a console shooter. In fact, I think it has more mobile users at this point
Evan Nelson
not him but that depends on the country I never heard anyone saying psx when I was a kid,.also who the fuck bought videogames magazines?
Sebastian Smith
that's why I said it will be considered a good shotter only on popularity basis
Tyler Martin
no need to try to reinvent the wheel
Jonathan Torres
Just read user brain activity and link certain thoughts with controls. It will be difficult to use at first but will surpass any controller when mastered.
David Morgan
>also who the fuck bought videogames magazines? Everyone who was passionate about the hobby and had the monies you poorfaggot.
Connor Myers
>not him but that depends on the country I never heard anyone saying psx when I was a kid,.also who the fuck bought videogames magazines? I didnt have internet access in the 90s
Josiah Jackson
The d-pad is uncomfortably small on the GC controller.
Samuel Taylor
2way Body mind interfaces Keyboard and mouse and hand held vr type shit is good but it's just not detailed enough for small movements
Isaiah Brooks
>tfw gamers are such corporate whores they will gladly grant Sony and Microsoft access to their brainwaves to pew pew faster
Jeremiah Morgan
>Xbox Fanbot appears
Your opinion is quite simply wrong.
Carson Clark
The Dualshock and the Xbone pro/elite whatever controller are great. The Xbone has the trigger buttons on the back. At least in the elite, and the Dualshock has a speaker in the controller. I think maybe adding a gyroscope or motion sensor would be cool. Combine all those features in the same form factor and bam. Perfect controller. Not much else to do desu.
Luis Phillips
>who the fuck bought videogames magazines get murdered by a stray dindu you absolute ass
Oliver Morales
Xbox One stock controller is GOAT. That thing is so comfy to play racing games on. PS4 is good too, but its' rubber somehow gets worn off extremely quickly.
Kevin Morgan
the definite improvement is in the trigger and bumper area.
more buttons there or dif designed buttons touch shit etc.
Nathan Thompson
Pic related + touch pad + six axis + replace right stick with trackball + +built in mic + motion controller functions but there are different ways to go about it I really want many of these features so the controller can also fulfill the function of other input methods like light guns and driving wheels and so in one device you can have a deep experience and access to almost many different arcade games out of the box.
Yeah i'll give you that one. But the first was still the best conventional one one on the market and so was the second.
Luke Reyes
Not OP. I use a ps4 as my monitor stand and could easily plug in my keyboard and mouse, which i occasionally do for messages, but I don't know any games which support it. I got it mostly for weebshit anyway though.
Hudson Rivera
it doesn't matter because console controls are still the lowest common denominator. you can't make a videogame with a special controller in mind unless it's pc exclusive and/or you are based enough to make steel battalion.
Alexander Adams
halo just has such retarded auto aim and bullet manetism that you get a 'headshot' if you actually hit your target. nothing amazing about that. it's not even that hard to aim with an analog stick, it's just worse than mice, but on console everyone has the same pad anyway. the whole thing is literally just pandering to retards because game devs are afraid to demand any mechanical skill of their players. the awful lag of hdtvs in the mid-late 2000s, and still today to a lesser extent, also encourages this aim assist. you can simply have NONE, like resistance on ps4, and no one even complains. too bad that game sucked though.
Caleb Peterson
you can totally use kbm on a couch. all you need is a wooden plank or coffee table or something to put the mouse on. the keyboard can go in your lap. i actually like full size boards better than space savers for that, it's easier to put it on both legs. i used to do it all the time.
Jace Smith
The dual analogue stick controller didn't exist until roughly half a year after the N64 came out
Juan Murphy
A stick, which you lubricate and put inside your asshole. It has pressure sensors and detects your asshole muscle contraptions. This, plus a stick for your mouth, which detects sucktion, teeth bitting and tongue movements.
These two technologies combined would make perfect console controller. And devices can replace each other. Meaning if you need only rectum controller for particular game, you can give your oral controller to a friend so you can both play this game.
