>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and graphics pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700- If you have a $2000+ budget >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than previous gen >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580/590 w/ Freesync or 1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050 3Gb or RX560 4Gb - lower settings and/or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega; 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >Waste money - for higher FPS w/ a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >FOR GAMING START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make your build to drive it appropriately
gotta love black friday/cyber monday deals my dudes. i went all in
Dylan Turner
pcpartpicker.com/list/PPbMNN This is my current build I built 2 years ago. I'm currently using my Playstation 24" 3DTV as a monitor. I've also upgraded my PC with another blue 1tb drive. I need more ram, and a new monitor. Should I get the same 2x4gb 2400MHz ram for 16gb or a higher speed set of stick(s)? And whats a good 75hz, 24 inch, 1080p monitor under 200CAD?
>Resident AMD shill of the thread in 3... 2... 1...
Easton Sanders
Forgive the ignorance, but how is performance difference between nitro+ 580 vs. nitro+ 590 vs. 1070ti or Vega 64?
I know it’s a wide range but I’m just trying to best gauge $/performance ratios in a sense.
Brandon Ramirez
>nitro+ 580 60 FPS @1080p in MOST games >nitro+ 590 60 FPS @1080p in all games >1070ti High framerate at 1080p, not so great for 1440p >Vega 64 Are you sure you can get it working properly?
Brody Kelly
oh fuck forgot I promissed a guy build
anyone got some excel premade where I just fill out shit?
this is tiny eastern europe country so no partpicker stuff
ryzen 2600x + rx580 or 570 depending on the price
also any recommendations on ryzen 2x4GB memory that is 3000 or above and not hilariously expensive because of samsung b die or some shit?
With a 9600k and RTX 2080, is there a particular motherboard I should look into? I don't know which brands are reputable in this case and was mostly going to go off of sales this week to decide.
Kayden Walker
i just ordered 9600k,
i wouldn't ever trust these paid AMD posters
John Butler
Are there any sites with respectable reviews of the i5 9600k vs something like an i7 8700k in gaming?
Samuel Ward
If I want to run games at above 144hz for the next 3 years at 1080p what do I get?
Some info I see makes the 1070ti look like its gonna fall off in the next year or 2. I dont care about max settings
Noah Martin
should I get a ryzen 2600 or 2600x with b450 (asrock pro4) or x470 (msi gaming plus or asus prime pro) mobo
building a new system for 1440p (no freesync/gsync) upgrading from i5-3570k.
gonna go to microcenter for mobo and cpu. don't care about aesthetics and probably not going to bother overclocking.
Black Friday deals haven't been so amazing, outside of the AMD GPUs, so much as prices for RAM, SSD, etc, have just generally been trending down.
>nitro+ 580 Will generally do everything on high or maxed, 1080p@60-75. 144 in highly optimized games like Dota2, Overwatch. >nitro+ 590 5% better than the 580. Only worth it if you really want the 3rd game and would have paid $50-$60 for it. >1070ti Like +50-60% over the RX590, but doesn't support Freesync so you either pay out the ass for monitor or you stick to locked framerates like 1440p@60fps, or configure them to multiples. >Vega 64 About another 5-10% above the 1070Ti. 15-20% above when outputting 10bit HDR. Much better in DX12/Vulkan.
>9600k and 2080 Man I hope this isn't 1080p. And I don't know. Intel has too many boards, many of which are scams. Too much to keep track of for such a bad product.
No one compares them with anything running in the background, so the results are useless compared to real world usage. No one closes their browser just to game and uses their PC as a glorified console.
Including monitor? Yeah probably possible.
Nothing can run everything at 144fps minimum.
Ethan Mitchell
What kinda moron would get a 2080 for 1080p?
Ethan Roberts
I really hate you fucking AMD nigger shitting up every PC Building General, I fell for your blatant scamming last year but not this year faggot
i ordered one a couple days ago. came with a cod4 key so i p much got the cpu for 200 dollars. should be coming in next week
Wyatt Peterson
Nice false-flag
Jonathan Adams
intel or amd for VR?
Ryder Lee
Unless you plan on professionally unzipping files all day on Linux, Intel is always the answer.
Landon Foster
ty bb
Ian Jenkins
Hey guys, sort-of new to building. I need to get myself a new editing computer (I use mainly Premiere and Avid MC) and from what I've read, it seems like my best choices would be to go with the i9-9900K with a RTX 2070. Is this correct, are there better options? And is there a particular motherboard or other parts you'd recommend that would go well with these?
Jordan Reed
/retro/ pcbg? i got a DFI lanparty nf2 ultra b, socket 462 ordeal besides dicking around with the PC Transpo kit (because holy shit this thing is hilarious, the early 2000's werent real) what should i build?
i guess this is more /generally old/ than it is retro but the idea still stands
idea was like an athlon xp of some kind, ive got a drawer full of DDR to try, and then a geforce 4 of some kind or if i can find one, an FX 5xxx of some kind
Same kind of moron that spends a lot of money on only 6 threads? So had to ask.
Compression is used in everythig, you moron. Your game installs are not uncompressed data on your disk. Much of loading a game and levels is decompression being done.
No point in getting something other than the 2600/X for 90hz like that.
Software rendering is always going to be better quality than hardware accelerated. GPU wise, all you really need is a GTX 1060. unless you're doing greater than 4K resolution. At 4K and lower, the 1060 is nearly the same performance as a 1080Ti in playback. I have no clue what you think you need the 2070 for.
Liam Long
just use pcpartpicker and copy the name of the items?
Blake Clark
>athlon
Brings back so many bad memories. The same kind of memories that the retards who bought a Ryzen will have 10 years from now.
what do you guys think? i keep hearing MB is shit but not sure
Andrew Ross
Current PC: >old, shitty, budget acer monitor (that surprisingly doesn't have any dead pixels after seven years) @1080p60 >B350 mobo >R5 1600 >1050ti >16 GB RAM >500GB SSD boot drive that's constantly full thanks to the era of ~100gb games >two 1TB HDDs in Windows' RAID0 that are a little over halfway full What would be a good upgrade this black friday? The 1050ti is adequate and I can coax it into 60fps, but obviously newer and more demanding games look like ass on it and it's irritating. My monitor works perfectly still, but it's low quality and not pleasant to look at. My storage is holding up fine, but some newer open world games with fuck huge textures can occasionally really choke if they have to pull something big unexpectedly. I'm leaning towards grabbing an RX 580 8GB on sale, but wanted input. I'm only looking to spend $200 tops, so more than one upgrade won't fly.
Kayden Butler
Which 6TB hard drive would you guys recommend that has decent speed and not too noisy nor expensive?
Google just directs me to a bunch of shills without any proper benchmarks.
Caleb Anderson
Looking for DAW suggestions.
Budget: Cheapest possible, maybe $100-300 for mobo, processor, and RAM
Use: Ableton 9. Already have a USB interface that works very well, so I'm not too clear on what metric (amount of RAM, processor speed, # of cores) would benefit me most. Biggest problem I have now is latency (the delay between when I press a key on the keyboard and the software synthesizes it into a note, or when a sound is recorded and written to the file).
Hunter Moore
Anyone got any input?
I just used excel so far I got this and its in his price range I believe
I render stuff at 4K but not greater than that. If I do go with the GTX1060, would that really be enough for smooth playback and rendering? What about the GTX1080?
Parker Taylor
>decent speed and not too noisy nor expensive
Same place where you can find unicorns that shit rainbows.
Bentley Bailey
5TB Toshiba X something. Not the 6TB one, it's a lot more expensive.
Sebastian Rodriguez
youre not gonna get a good drive thats not noisy and isnt expensive and isnt slow
I really want to get a new SAS raid card but all the ones I see online are over $100. I have an 8 drive bay and I really want to utilize all the slots but I'm a penniless neet.
>gpu or cpu first? CPU, unless you plan on gaming. that graphics card is fine for light video editing, office work, web browsing, and audio editing. just don't plan to run any games made after 2013 very well.
>will i need a new motherboard? yes, yes you will. you will also need DDR4 ram.
I saw looking at the same bench. Can you not read it and see that the 1060 results are near identical to the 1080ti at 4K and lower? idk what else to tell you.
Solid build.
Your current CPU is surely bottlenecking hte GPU in some cases. For that reason, CPU. But Zen2 isn't far off at this point.
Though eh... RX580 sale is a better deal than any other sale, so may as well just upgrade GPU now instead.
May as well get the X when it's only $20-$30 more and not have to mess with overclocking to get the most out of it.
Don't know why you'd get that for gaming unless you already have Gsync. You can get Vega 64 for cheaper.
Cooper Collins
I fell for Intel's Pentium 4 garbage propaganda too.
Noah Wilson
is the 200 dollars really worth it? i already put anything i run on all low to get the most out of it, dont care for the fancy looks
Jack Young
okay so 2600x, but with b450 or x470?
Oliver Kelly
It works fine desu. Especially streaming. 1080p60@6000mbs/medium and I lose 1-5fps depending on the game. Considering I hit over 60, unless playing some arma multiplayer I am very please with the purchase. Good for video editing, film making (premiere, avid) and DAW(protools, cubase) it's simply amazing.
Jace Barnes
200 dollars worth what?
b450(m) pro4 is fine.
That was such a time. Glad I didn't fall for it. Almost everyone with a P4, other than the most diehard fanboys, had buyers remorse. Now days the mid-higher end CPUs are so overpowered that it really doesn't matter TOO much what you get, just that some are better buys than others.
Jordan Baker
I run mine at 4200MHz 1.3375V on all cores with a B450 Mortar
Logan Rogers
>Brings back so many bad memories. Except you were maybe 3 years old at best, then. And people don't remember stuff from when they were toddlers, teenage-kun.
There's respectable reviews of the 9600k vs. 8600k, which is obviously basically the exact same thing.
Cooper Cooper
>Can you not read it and see that the 1060 results are near identical to the 1080ti at 4K and lower? Well actually that chart doesn't compare the 2070 with the 1060, but I'll take your word for it. Wouldn't it create a bottleneck with the 9900k though?
Mason Evans
worth getting a 2070 instead of a 1070
Elijah Parker
Swore to never buy anything Intel ever again, got a sandy bridge system from a friend back in 2012 and I'm still on it. Waiting for Zen2. Intel can die in a fire.
Camden Gray
Why are you taking advice from someone who's getting paid to sell you AMD trash?
Oliver Sanders
It's not worth getting either a 1070 or 2070. Get vega. If you already have Gsync, you should be able to find a used 1070 or there is the 1070Ti.
Yeah. 2500k will be my last Intel CPU I've gotten, I'm pretty sure. I've had 4 AMD CPUs, 4 Intel ones. Always had far better experiences with the AMD ones. Of course I avoided Bulldozer though. If AMD is "not competitive", I'll just wait to buy until they are.
I mean it's worse? The soldier Intel used is really bad. They added new insulator that you had to sand down rather than simply wipe off. Shit's a fucking joke.
Yeah but you can see the 1060 performance is perfectly good enough that you won't really see a difference with anything else. What do you mean "bottleneck"? How is a GPU going to "bottleneck" a program that runs almost entirely on the CPU outside of video preview playback? That's not how that works. That's like asking how a 1024 core headless Rome server doesn't get "bottlenecked" by its complete lack of GPU.
Justin Powell
Kek yes, my 2600X is more powerful than the 6core Xeon E5 3.2MHz Mac I use at school. Can't believe this shit. I also have faster RAM and 4times more storage for probably half or a third of it's original price. Why the hatred bruh?
Isaac Robinson
How is Vega these days? And why is it so cheap all of a sudden?
Ethan King
Because no one wants it.
Cooper Morales
>The soldier Intel used is really bad. Dunno about the solder, but as you mentioned the thicker die and thicker IHS seems to even more of a thermal insulator than the 8th gen toothpaste. If I was forced to choose between the two, I'd probably go the 8th gen/delid/conductonaut route over trying to fuck around with 9th gen thermals.
Aiden Turner
You don't know what it's like to be on a Pentium 4.
its in the list, 2080ti windforce dont want no cumslut used 1080ti
Julian Hall
>Yeah but you can see the 1060 performance is perfectly good enough that you won't really see a difference with anything else. Alright, thanks man. So if I go with the 1060, what do you feel about this build? Anything I should change?
Just think how much cheaper builds could be if games were better optimized. I can't believe how slowly some modern games run, they're not even doing anything that should be taxing graphics-wise.
Charles Howard
For anybody who missed it. The continuation of this
> doesn't want an used 1080ti > rather have a refurbished old 1080ti with a broken refresh
Colton Peterson
Yes, Presshot was really bad. Pushing for 3.4 gigahertz at housefire levels while getting destroyed by Athlon at 2GHz in every way possible. Summer was a fucking nightmare.
Easton Hughes
>baracuda no, get 4TB ironwolf, better warranty its on sale on newegg
When I originally made this the guy said that "im looking at 0.10% frametime results" rather than looking at frametime graphs where it's apparently very different from my conclusions that I reached based on the 0.10% times. So, as requested by the guy, I took a look at the frametime graphs and "eyeballed" it, which isn't the most accurate way to objectively judge something. And of course there comes the issue of what frametime "dips" are worse than other and so on. Gave me relative rough conclusion which is very similar to my conclusion based on 0.10% times. Which is that they are relatively equal with a slight lead in AMD.
I'm back again, just once more looking for opinions from anons that own the U2715H. Also, open to suggestion for other 1440p, 27 inch IPS monitors. Budget is 500 dollars.