Consoles exist because exclusives. Nothing else. There's no other point. But the exclusive are fucking great though, and you're missing out of you don't play them. Thing is, Fuck the next gen of consoles.
AI hasn't advanced since PS2, physics haven't advanced since PS3, no new storage format, no new tech (like online or Bluetooth), the RAM boost from PS3 to 4 was enough to display as many objects as you'll ever need, etc…
There's nothing to do but small graphics improvements 99% of people won't give a single fuck about due to DIMINISHING RETURNS. I give zero shits about games looking better than they do now.
What I do care about is the development costs spiking AGAIN while decimating the install base, making it so that awesome niche games don't get made until the install base builds back up again over 10 years. Yay! Less games and less risk taking for another 10 years! Oh, and 300 gb game installs on a 1 TB hard drive.
nice shitpost consoles exist because there is a market for cheaper plug and play devices with large communities for games and no skill needed to make work saging this stupid thread
Adrian Diaz
Ps3 broke the petraflop barrier in the hands of IBM. Doesn't matter anyway. Games cost so much because of graphics they forget about gameplay
Easton Allen
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Christian Moore
Pcs take zero skill.
Adrian Peterson
there is definitely a percieved skill barrier to building your own PC, if you can't see that you must be autistic. even setting games up to work on PC takes more work than a console - if I'm a 12 year old kid or their parents I'm not going to build a gaming PC, I'm going to drop $300 on a console.
Leo Ross
How is it hard to click install on steam. Derp
Ryan Campbell
>how hard is it to install a game service it's not hard, it's just more work than turning a PS4 on and sticking a game in. On top of that, you would be hard pressed to buy outright a computer for $300 that will run the newest triple A games.
Joshua Hughes
Nah. A 300$ PC can easy run new games at the same level as consoles.
Blake Watson
in which year?
Dylan Harris
I don't even know why consoles exist anymore. It used to be that you'd pop a game in and could start playing right away but now they FORCE installs to your hard drive because BD discs are so fucking slow, AND you're not even guaranteed good performance anymore now that they fragment their userbase with different TRIMS of console that have different specs, but no devs can actually fully use them or else they'll alienate half their customers.
Owen Baker
>Nah. A 300$ PC can easy run new games at the same level as consoles. lol no it can't, the xbonex runs games at 4k@60 fps, granted it's variable res/quality but that changes on the fly and it maintains good frame rates at good settings, and generally looks good
no PC can compete with the xbone x at its price point, not a single one
Nathaniel Morris
>now that they fragment their userbase with different TRIMS of console that have different specs, but no devs can actually fully use them or else they'll alienate half their customers. this, that's a yikes from me
Charles Edwards
>Consoles exist because exclusives. Nothing else. There's no other point. But the exclusive are fucking great though, and you're missing out of you don't play them. Thing is, Fuck the next gen of consoles.
Consoles and Apple help AMD. Good enough reason for them to exist.
Dominic Williams
The Xbox X runs like shit. Interpolated frames almost never actual 4K, and it has no fucking games to boot. You're a joke.
Aiden Martin
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Tyler Anderson
Play Indies ya fucking dunce
Lucas Thompson
>lol no it can't, the xbonex runs games at 4k@60 fps, granted it's variable res/quality but that changes on the fly and it maintains good frame rates at good settings, and generally looks good
There are so many wrong point in here I cant even point them out to fit word limit, so I am just going to call you retard.
Jackson Diaz
>Consoles exist because exclusives if this was true Wii U would be the most sold console
Jack Allen
The last good home consoles from each current major player were PS2/X360/Wii. Prove me wrong.
Thomas Russell
True, you would need to spend $500 or so for a PC that can comfortably run modern titles at max settings 60 FPS. However, with a console, you can't do any work or content consumption outside playing games. You would need to spend more on a laptop or cheap PC to fulfil those needs, making the total cost higher than a single powerful PC. But you're probably 12, so not like that matters to you.
Isaiah Myers
Consoles aren't plug and play anymore. Most modern consoles have about as much set up and troubleshooting as PCs. And this is without the freedom a PC has.
Jose Mitchell
>Wii was good It really wasn't, fuck off. The last good Nintendo console before the switch was the GameCube.
Jack Garcia
don't fool yourself to build a 300$ pc you have buy shitty used hardware and even if you get some good stuff for 300$ consoles will still win because their games have better optimization.
Alexander Fisher
Consoles are better because physical games.
Chase Jenkins
>But the exclusive are fucking great though lol kill yourself, retard
Christian Jones
Consoles just work. I don’t really want to figure out if my graphics card is going to work with a game at decent settings or not or if the game will have good controller support.
The real question is why would you play on the PC, if you have a lot of money to blow go for it but if not consoles are more than fine.
The Wii is completely backwards compatible with the GameCube. Checkmate, atheist.
Juan Price
Bloodborne, the list goes on
Charles Carter
You forgot to mention that keyboard + mouse is much better than sluggish, innacurate joysticks.
Jeremiah Howard
>Consoles exist because exclusives Consoles really do provide excellent value and make a lot of sense. Ignore the cost of games, which really is huge, and look at the system you get: The price of a mid-range graphics card gives you a complete fully usable gaming-system. You can build a computer which is much better than a console but you'll have to start buy paying twice the cost of a console for a high-end graphics card.
I've never actually owned a console so I can't speak to the "experience" of having one. I have bought some for my nephews so I know what they cost and it really ain't much compared to a decent computer.
>A 300$ PC You'll have a pretty bad experience doing anything at all on a $300 PC, let alone play games. What are you proposing there, something like a Ryzen 3 2200G with 4 GB RAM and a 120 GB SSD?
Caleb Richardson
Scanned your comment, saw the word SSD and decided not to read it.
Cooper Foster
>mfw many games these days have worse enemy AI than body harvest from the N64 You're right about so many things, except the main two consoles having exclusives worth buying them for. If you're going to get anything, get a Switch. It's the only console that makes sense.
Jacob Hill
Some types of games are better with particular kinds of controls. Shocking. FPS and RTS are best with something mouse-like, free roaming third person view 3D Platformers and RPGs are best with an analog joystick, etc.
Asher Gutierrez
Off-topic. Mods, please move this to
Juan Roberts
Microsoft just added mouse and keyboard support for the Xbox One.
Benjamin Lopez
>the xbonex runs games at 4k@60 fps i'm pretty sure exactly nothing can run all current AAA games at 4k60 without turning every other graphics setting right down
Mason Hall
even the ps2 has games that support usb keyboard/mouse
Cooper Ross
Basically this.
Levi Evans
Ataribox and other Mini PCs exist, you know.
Carter Turner
I'd get a console for the "just works" aspect. No fucking about with Windows, caring which CPU or GPU is faster in games I play, no tweaking to get the most performance.
Jordan Campbell
>The real question is why would you play on the PC 1. I HATE controlling camera with a stick. I use Steam Controller for console ports 2. I love some PC-exclusive games 3. I can use mods/emulators/cheats(for offline)/whatever 4. Better performance
Jaxson Evans
>I HATE controlling camera with a stick. You'd get used to it. I hated playing on console controllers until I bought Nier Automata, which was close to unplayable on mouse+keyboard, so I bought a cheap ass DS3 knock-off. After playing 70hrs+ I'm pretty good with a controller, it's actually fun in games that don't require precise targeting.
Austin Johnson
Consoles run almost every thing at a choppy 30fps. Bullshit comparison.
Why people get so upset over a box designed to allow the laymen to run the latest game(s) and a few apps with ease is beyond me.
Joshua Gutierrez
Yup. After spending $700 on a dell gaming monitor that sucks ass, and experiencing the dumpster fire that is Windows 10, as well as watching the PC gaming market get turned to shit by assholes like Valve, Epic, Blizzard, Daybreak, etc... hasta. Playing single player console games has been a blessing.
Aiden Garcia
>counts TV in the price of his pc
My pc is hooked up to my 60" TV because I'm not a dumb faggot
Tyler Davis
>You'd get used to it. No, it's complete set. >I hated playing on console controllers until I bought Nier Automata, which was close to unplayable on mouse+keyboard Yeah, and camera on controller still sucks. I've immediately changed it to "mouse" in Steam Controller's settings and had proper snappy aiming.
One problem was with "arcade" twin-stick segments, but I mapped a modifies onto r3, so I can switch between stick and mouse.
Additionally, I always map precise aiming to the gyroscope. Helps a lot with sniping segments in Skyrim, for example.
>It's fun It's slow and imprecise. I honestly hate it, even though I tried playing with Xbox360 and PS4 controllers before.
Xavier Harris
>Playing single player console games has been a blessing. No mods, no cheats, no nothing. Yeah, I wouldn't like that.
David Robinson
Consoles level the multiplayer playing field. PC fags use all kinds of tricks to get an advantage over everyone else. On a console you all pretty much have to play fair.
William Cooper
You can't pirate on a console though. Well you can if you fuck about with the PS4 hack(s) but you need to be on an older system install and never upgrade it.
Sebastian Powell
I bet you can't fast mouse move. I have an S so will test this out though.
Benjamin Garcia
mate you are fucking deluded if you think consoles aren’t the most normie/dad/mum/grandparents friendly shit out right now
Matthew Baker
This is true. There's been no progress in gaming past MGS4.
Austin Hill
my core i7 2600k from 2011 with a 780 GTX runs the latest triple A games with just a play button in steam
Xavier Hill
Gamepad is way more fun for any 3rd person game. Mouse is easier, but you only need a fucking cheat control method of you're a pussy faggot.
Aiden Lee
You could probably buy a used PC for $300 that plays all the xbox/PS4 titles and looks the same quality.
Caleb Price
>Gamepad is way more fun for any 3rd person game And Steam Controller is a gamepad. Except it has a proper aiming scheme where you perfectly control the speed and can even do 360 and play games without faggot-tier auto-lock and auto-aim.
Luis Sullivan
Non
Hunter Gray
The steam pad is a fucking joke. You just suck at games so you need easymode controls.
Nicholas Hughes
You clearly don't own a PS4.
Dominic Hill
Most people don't even use a pc at home anymore because smartphones and a smart TV or streaming dongle can accommodate 95% of the average person's pc use-cases.
Joseph Brown
Requiring an install doesn't make it user unfriendly. With the console you don't have to worry about shit like drivers, minimum requirements, etc.
Asher Morgan
The switch is not a good console you steaming hyperfaggot.
You do have to deal with the piece of shit not working and telling you what the hell is wrong. Which is what I was talking about to begin with.
Luis Ross
no you dumb ass consoles exist for plebs that don't know how to install software or maintain a PC which is like 50% of people and kids because parents don't want them having a gaming pc and watching extream porn at 8years old.
the exclusives just exist to sway the media and influencers. and the reason there are less good exclusives these days is it matters less because most of the influencers have moved on to PC so sony and Microsoft have given up making good ones and just make pleb shit and know they sell just as many consoles.
PS4 is going to catch up to 360 soon.
Nolan Watson
>The steam pad is a fucking joke. Elaborate > You just suck at games so you need easymode controls. Yeah, that's why consoles come with auto-aim and auto-lock. Because you are all so good with the stick.
Robert Carter
Videogames are for fucking children
Liam Gomez
The core reason for the next gen is the 4k target. current gen consoles just can't push enough pixels.
Matthew Ward
Consumers don't fucking care about 4K and will be confused by the fact that the "pro" versions of the current consoles already claim (incorrectly, I know, but most don't know) to do 4K. They might as well advertise that the games are 3D and "finally have surround sound!" Because that's how random they will sound to the normies.
Elijah Gomez
Nah. I don't play cawadoodie or GTA like a fucking wigger. And there is no aiming in action games, but you forgot those exist since the only game your autistic ass plays is either hat fortress or CSGO.
Connor Parker
Go back to your containment board, /v/edditor. You are not welcome on the technology board.
>And there is no aiming in action games Sure, and no auto-lock, right? >I don't play these games, I only play those "proper" games You have to be at least 18 to post on this board.
Also, the fact stands, stick is so good, they have to insert aimbot and other shit so it's usable.
Kevin Allen
it's post-purchase rationalization; they can't handle the objective fact that their mid-tier shitbox is more expensive and a worse performer in practice than the "normie" machine
>Most people don't even use a pc at home anymore because smartphones and a smart TV or streaming dongle can accommodate 95% of the average person's pc use-cases. absolutely fucking delusional