Jokes aside is Internet of Things getting out of hand?

It's all so pointless and wasteful

Remember playing the battle netowork games as a kid and laughing about viruses setting your oven on fire

...that actually makes them a bit more appealing...

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Without strong leadership, people are self destructive.

I can understand shit like your television being "smart" so it can connect to the internet and stream Netflix and YouTube without any additional equipment. I can kinda understand your central hvac thermostat being connected to the internet so you can remotely monitor your home's temperature and adjust the thermostat settings while you're away from the house (though why this is necessary I don't really know). Shit like light bulbs and refrigerators though... Just why?

Then how come of the 20 or so houses and apartments I've been to that have Google and Alexa not one of them have done this? Are people really that stupid?

Fridges, I have no idea. But I love my Hue bulbs. It's really nice to be able to change the lighting in my house.

can't wait until people have their appliances turned off and their front doors unlocked because they misgendered a tranny online

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Soon iot devices will know if you're in the house and which room you're in, and you won't even need any kind of tech on your person. This would then be fed into things like lightbulbs to give you adaptive lighting based on presence.

PET when?

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By soon i mean within the year btw, and no it won't require cameras or microphones

But if you name your Alexa "Catherine" no one will know you have an original AMAZON TM (R) ALEXA TM (R)!! Catherine must be a Chinese ripoff!

Sounds neat I guess

I mean I had the idea of DIYing all those IoT/domotics things years ago. Never got around to it but just last year I was trying to capture and replay the radio signal from a remote controlled light switch and use an esp8266 connected to my phone via wifi to control the lights in my room.
I gave up on that when I realized how pointless it would be, but it would have been a fun exercise.

>so you can remotely monitor your home's temperature

Or you could just set a constant temperature for the day and the night and call it a day.

Sounds like a completely useless technology to me.

Nigga you'll save 30% at zero reduction in comfort by letting the temperature vary at night and when you're away

When I was 10 I had a dumb idea for a voice panel control that would turn on your lights, like i Star Trek, I drew out a basic schematic and sketch and gave up when I thought it was too impossible, but i guess not impossible for longer

Okay, so what's wrong with turning off the heater when you're in bed or away from home now? Why does it suddenly have to be automated or remotely controlled?

the point is you set the temp down/up when youre not home. do you really need your house at 68 degrees at 1pm when nobody is there? at 4:30 you can set your temp down from 78 to 68 so when you get home your house will be cool
then again..the energy used getting the temps back to where you want them might negate any positive effects

>1970
"In the future, we'll be able to control everything in our houses just by saying stuff!"

>2018
"WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE!?"

Most everyone uses default settings on every device, this goes for anything

You can't rename them arbitrarily. When the Echo was new, the only options were "Amazon" and "Alexa", and they've apparently since added "Computer" and "Echo"

Out of these, Alexa doesn't seem so bad

>the energy used getting the temps back to where you want them might negate any positive effects
No. When it's warm all the time it'll dissipate more thermal energy than when it's warm only part of the time.

Is this even remotely suprising? 98% of the world population doesn't give two shits about privacy or tech monopolization.

The problem with this, ignoring the hassle of fucking with a control panel four times a day, is that you need to turn it on an hour *before* you get up or come home. It takes a while to reach the target temperature.

could I rename one 'house nigger'

>"Hey CIA, tell me a good pancake recipe"

also too btw, you can buy themostats that have programmable hours set (non-smart) so program 1 might be 9am-4:30 temp: 78
program 2 4:30-10pm temp: 70
program 3 10pm-7am temp:74
etcetc
so you dont neeed to set it remotely if you're paranoid about smart themrostats

If it wasn't for the whole evil corporations, lack of personal security/privacy and spying governments... all this smart home stuff is awesome.

I just wish there was a genuinely open alternative that i can whack on a home server.

It's great for

Setting timers while cooking

Using it as a failsafe alarm in case your phone dies

Whole house music is pretty cool

It can also ring your phone if you lose it

Setting reminders anywhere in the house

It's not meant to change your life dramatically, just make it a little more convenient

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>house music is pretty cool
lmao shit taste

You can set it to Alexa, computer or echo last time I checked

>Everybody on Jow Forums paranoid about being spied on by the botnet or some shit
>Jow Forums complains that all major tech companies are being taken over by pajeets who don't know what they're doing

So...do they know what they're doing, and are spying on all of us with zettaflops worth of processing power to ingest and process all this data about us, correctly assign it all, and redirect and target everything with these brain-crushingly powerful maths and software?
Or are they all run by and done by incompetent foreigners and really these "spy devices" aren't doing shit because they wouldn't even have a good idea of how to deal with that data in the first place since it's not Javascript?

I named mine nigger, the police showed up after a few days.

What can I say to dissuade my mother from getting an Echo?

>Jokes aside is Internet of Things getting out of hand?
IoT is reproducing the same mistakes "standard" computing did decades ago especially about security.
>how soon until whole houses are powered by wifi?
soon™.
Imagine having your whole house connected 24/7 over http to servers based in a 1984-type country.
I really like the feeling you get when you don't know until when your house furnitures will work given everything HAVE TO be connected to work, to server you have NO control over.
Can't wait to change paradigm:
no internet == no internet
to
no internet == no heat, no light, no tv, no whatever_must_be_connected_to_work
I really like the though of having my 3yo playing with toys connected in realtime with creeps anywhere on the planet.
I really like when her barbie tell her creepy things when she sleep.

amazon.com/Volley-Inc-Song-Quiz/dp/B06XWGR7XZ
Are there any apps in the app store that do what song quiz on Alexa does?

Voice "assistants" can't do speech to text locally

I know someone who configured their network with firewalls, different vlans all this shit but then bought a google home.
I asked them fucking why? And they said they were "willing to give up their privacy for convenience".
I seriously cannot understand these people. They also said that google can take their info because they want better ads.

Something like a lightbulb has absolutely no reason to communicate outside of the house.
>inb4 "I need to be able to control my lights when I'm not home"
No you fucking don't.

wow

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>They also said that google can take their info because they want better ads
>because they want better ads
I refuse to believe this

MMBN was a warning about how dangerous this whole internet of fags thing is

Is there a security on the voice commands?

Or can you just wonder through apartment buildings yelling "Alexa, play bubblebutt by major lazer' and everyone's alexa just shits the bed?

I came up with the idea of digital pictureframes and using TV screens as portraits on a wall when I was like eight. Didn't think I could do anything with it since I was a child and figured it was impossible. Oops.

The ad from I think McDonalds had a ton of people mad because the guy activated their google home

It's the worst scenario. It's both. They have your life and information and the will to use it, and no idea what to do with it so you're just at the mercy of idiots.

People are stupid. 90% of people I know IRL don't know that their phone has a setting to block auto-rotate

>They also said that google can take their info because they want better ads.
I've heard that line before too.

Lightbulb, who is the killer?

hte fuckign susan

Do you live in the UK?

Did someone say lightbulbs?

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I could never finish that it had really cringe text in it.

>how long until who house utilizes wifi
Already if you have the cash. Most new houses have "ease of life" packages.

I have a new romba that I hacked to work and run from my own server. Don't tell I-Robot corporation. I would get hit with intellectual property theft if they know I hooked a RPI nano to the control switches on my romba instead of using their data gulping app.

They didn't say "want better ads" exactly
but they said it's the price to pay for using Google's "free" service and that they don't mind getting ads based off that data because the ads will apply to them more.

No, go back to your box, Mikan.

The only thing that really put me off was all the piss.
Why did every fucking girl in that game need a watersports scene

>getting out of hand
>getting

It's already out of hand. It's been out of hand. People are literally buying always on listening devices which are effectively black boxes and placing them in their homes as if it's completely normal for a megacorporation to constantly record them. Why not grab an Echo Look™ while you're at it so they can see you too?

If Amazon could find a reasonable justification to attach and always on camera to a TV they could sell it as a Telescreen™ and people would unironically put it in their houses because they "have nothing to hide."

They actually can. Snips (allegedly) does. Most don't because there's more ability to justify the data mining and intrusive surveillance that way.

>what is privacy

>discuss about bombing up a public place with my fellow terror friend beside Alexa
>ask Alexa about the traffic
So does this mean if the CIA really wants to arrest me and my pal they have evidence?

>People are literally buying always on listening devices which are effectively black boxes

A murder was recorded by Alexa. Also people who claim they have nothing to hide are liars or morons.

Everyone has something to hide. Just because i am not doing anything illegal does not mean i want to risk a chance of being watched

Unfortunately.

You're not a nigger are you?

Do wireless lightbulbs work with only local network? Do they have microphones or something like that?

>internet of things
please stop with this shit meme. Most of this stuff has existed for decades, and it was never adopted because it's high-latency, low-reliability garbage.

This. Just because porn is legal doesn't mean I want people to know about my obsession with assholes.

>they have nothing to hide
Try this test on your friends and families who give you this shit, ask them to unlock their phone and give it to you. Tell them that you're going to view everything inside, messages, social media, browsing history, notes, calendar etc but you're not going to change anything in the phone. See their reaction.

People are too stupid to give a shit. Sadly.

>fridges
From a manufacturer's perspective? Enhanced consumerism. Some fridges will allow you to order food to be delivered directly from your home. From a consumer's perspective? May have genuine use if you're not often at home; makes you look "cool" and functions as a status symbol.

>In January 2014, the California security firm Proofpoint, Inc. announced that it discovered a large “botnet” which infected an internet-connected refrigerator, as well as other home appliances, and then delivered more than 750,000 malicious emails. In August 2015, security company Pen Test Partners discovered a vulnerability in the internet-connected refrigerator Samsung model RF28HMELBSR that can be exploited to steal Gmail users' login credentials.

We were told that the slippery slope is a fallacy shortly before slipping down the slope. Now it's weird to not have anyone spy on you.

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>Is there a security on the voice commands?
No.

do people EVER click on ads? I've been so conditioned by 90s and early 00 ads that even if i see something that might appeal to me, I'd make a new tab and browse the website on my own instead of clicking the ad

Ads aren't meant to be clicked, they are meant to condition you to think that said product/brand is better than others, so when you actually need a product of the same kind you'll end up choosing the one you heard before.

>mfw hate advertising
>mfw seeing an ad makes me more likely to buy from a competitor
>mfw maybe companies are buying ads for their competitors

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werks with normalfags

What IoT device can I rename to a racial slur?

Can i name it multiple words and create custom commands

"Gay Niggers from Outer Space, invade Twitter with meme folder x"

>always on camera in your living room connected to the Internet
Microsoft already tried it, the original xboxone system was designed to be always connected and have a camera as well
Many people bought it even though privacy concerns were highlighted

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IoT was a mistake

>mfw a irl battle network future requires intense spying
I came home for Thanksgiving and there was a google home device in house.

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nice reddit spacing

You can already do this with a sensor but there's so many conditions you have to work around (directional motion sensing so someone else entering a room doesn't turn the lights off and having the computer keep a tally of entering motions and only turning the lights off when it cancels out on both sides) it's not really worth it and yelling at a smart speaker is a lot easier.

No it fucking doesn't. Voice control predates "hurr durr everything is connected" by TEN YEARS. The fucking pocket clip sized iPod Nanos had it.

>mfw your smart thermostat gets ransomwared and demands 3 BTC otherwise it sets your temp to 100C

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If I were a nigger, do you think the police would come to warn me about using the word nigger?

>live out star trek fantasy in real life
I kinda want one now

Two things. House music is based as fuck, you ungopnik twat.
Also. Not what he meant.

in britain they probably would

Why does it look so cute and cuddly?

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