>when you realize all of the smart/creative people you used to sometimes meet online have all vanished into obscure hard to find VR sandbox testgrounds making games/virtual interfaces/and things people have never experienced before, and you just have to know the right person to get in
now this is what I was looking for in VR and knew was there somewhere
Yeesh, yea those kind of people just trying to leave reality permanently need help.
Im not talking about that, im talking about spontaneous innovation and exciting new paradigm shifting experiments in realtime. Like a group of teslas and lesser edisons all sitting in a room passing shit to each other to modify and give life in front of your eyes.
Hard to describe.
Nicholas Thomas
That story is scary and impressive, as is the fact how people keep tabs on such snippets. Do you know how it went with that VR dude? That pizza diet would not be healthy over time.
>im talking about spontaneous innovation and exciting new paradigm shifting experiments in realtime I still don't get this.
Joseph Hernandez
where do i find these modern socrates?
Austin Diaz
Im talking about stuff like, a guy will have a bunch of poly blanks in front of him of various texture/color/physics properties, he will pop up 5 virtual consoles in from of him, open a custom "physical" box of "tools" which are just code bits, and use them like they are physical tools and use a combo of voice and keyboard to type code/commands into multiple consoles at once and build something new in real time, half backend, half VR front end. like watching a creature/car/appliance become alive. then start from scratch. do this over and over until someone builds something that someone else likes, they modify it and eventually there is another room filled with bits and bobs. then people go to the "storage room" and retrieve thing they may think of that could benefit a current item theyre working on. then once they feel like they have a working interface/game idea. they go to the "warehouse" and try to implement it on a larger scale.
Entire games are running/being bug tested etc simultaneously elsewhere from these warehouse experiments, insise even more massive "gymnasiums"
its incredible
John Thomas
you are so dumb
Nolan Robinson
based schizoposter
Evan Sanchez
You have to get lucky and happen to impress one of the few server curators to grant you a keyring.
Sometimes i wonder if these little secret hideouts are just owned by valve/other big studios to monitor the smart guys and rip them off.. meh. Who knows
Landon Watson
>mfw not sure if i'm actually intelligent or just retarded how would one find these men
You're thinking of pretentious SJW art students. Actually smart people know there are more important and interesting things to work on than making VR toys. Actually smart people are building the CPU designs that we'll use the next ten years, or researching math, or curing cancer, or working on complex technologies like C++ compilers.
Ryder Carter
>Do you know how it went with that VR dude Absolutely no idea, I think I tried asking on /v/ once this year, but got nowhere. By the time the thread took place I was browsing Jow Forums for 2 years, but don't remember anything similar then or since then. Only found the thread by accident when scraping web archive for particular unrelated items around that time period.
I guess it's accurate to say new technology since 2012 must've sucked him in even more. What you're reading is really the experiences of the last year before the current VR mainstream boom. It must've changed him considerably.
Sebastian Mitchell
Literally luck dude. Dont beat yourself up, telling you random ips wouldnt help you as thats all they are. Theyre not public, there is no website or irc. Everything is in the vr space and linked to a spiderweb of google drives on the backend.
You may be right, just speaking on what ive seen.
Evan Gonzalez
Those things are impossible with current tech. UIs are almost exact the same as they were on Smalltalk for the Alto or the original Macintosh, and will keep being so until we get close to general artificial intelligences or high resolution, non invasive computer brain interfaces.
Do you have a problem with using words or something? Its literally a space.. in virtual reality. Are you this much of a sourpuss that you have to get angry at such an apt description and add an insult+ellipses?
William Johnson
VR a big gay. I want a neural link that allows me to interface with complex computer systems so that I can pilot a Titan in real life.
How can you have a decent nueral link without first nailing down the absolute most efficient way to use tacticle/gestures with digital environments, so that you know the best wiring/design for linking?
Cooper Walker
That thread is the most interesting thing I've come across in a long time I wonder how many things like that are hidden in some 90s URL nobody knows about, or even on the hard drives of some random guy or some data hoarder who happened to scrape a bunch of sites, only waiting until the day he dies to be thrown in the trash or sold to some guy on ebay who will just delete everything
Aaron Young
>find the part of the brain that's responsible for sight >link it to a camera >find the part responsible for motion >link it to robotic limbs >find the part responsible for hearing >link it to microphones And so on. The idea is that I think about moving my right leg as I normally would and it moves the Titan's right leg. There's already early versions of this tech out there that's being tested on people were disabled and lost limbs and there are implants for deaf people, so what I'm suggesting isn't that far out.
Brody Torres
>In my brief exploration of other boards like this one I found the term 3d pig disgusting. If I understand the meaning correctly it is an excellent description of how I feel, not specifically about women but the entirety of meatspace. Nothing is perfect or clean. Everything is in a constant state of decay. So am I. I am repulsed by it. Perfect pure clean polygon worlds do not rot, or become contaminated by dust, debris, waste. This world is made of math, perfect geometry. It is so clean and pure and eternal.
There was some talk on /cyb/ quite a while ago about adapting Unreal Engine 4 to make a TRON world for storing various information and interacting. Is that what you had in mind?
The main library at the time is now online again: ftp://collectivecomputers.org:21212/Books/Cyberpunk/ BTW lots of other stuff elsewhere in ftp://collectivecomputers.org:21212/
Is that what you mean?
Isaac Lee
why does that read like a larp?
Levi Wright
Image and audio and easier than movement, because they're on the surface of the brain. Movement and tactile feeling are inside of the spine, you'd need to cut it off for this. This means you'd be restricted to being hooked to a machine for any kind of movement or tactile experience. FOREVER. And even then there's little knowledge about the spatial mapping (which is probably a little different for everybody) AND the signals encoding tactile feelings. And the tech for substituting sight and hearing is VERY primitive. Go on youtube and search for cochlear implant simulations. It sounds nothing like normal hearing. And for the visual aspect, you're limited to black and white and a resolution of about 25 by 25, with the brain tissue responsible of making contact with the electrodes literally dying over time because neurons are not made to be stimulated by electricity through plastic and metal electrodes.
Ayden Cook
To me the guy sounds like the typical dumb schizo. But yeah, also sounds kinda like a larp. But I want to believe.
Brayden Sullivan
Maybe it just sounds like a larp because it's so outside of what we've seen in our immediate environment.
is this thread going to die just like that? I guess arguing nvidia vs amd is more interesting than this
Colton Evans
have you seen highfidelity? it looks pretty interesting as a platform.
Jack Wright
Looks like shit. The problem with all those 'virtual worlds' is that they all have early 2000s graphics and physics. GTA 3 had honest to god better playability than second life. If they were able to make a huge ass meta-game with good content and things to do, persistent world state, user-generated content and scripts, and AAA-game level graphics and physics, they'd become famous instantly. It'd be basically GTA Online except bigger and better. Nobody wants to log in to a multiplayer game (and let's be honest that's what those 'virtual worlds' are) filled with crazy bored housewives getting 'married' in-game to furries, edgy teenagers larping as vampires and homos in BDSM suits, where you can't even as much as realistically drive a car because the physics and the engine sucks ass.
Nathaniel Butler
So I guess it was only a matter of time for someone to ask, what about VR Chat?
David Bell
Op here, i havent responded sinceIll try to respond in more detail if thread is still around later
Brody Lee
>If they were able to make a huge ass meta-game with good content and things to do, Sim City and GTA, the maps made by sim city folks can be robbed by the GTA folks
Jace Hill
Well it's an open source online virtual reality engine. It isn't going to compete with modern AAA single player games in computationally intensive tasks. You would be surprised how big the market for this kind of thing is. SecondLife made a lot of people a lot of money. HighFidelity has the potential to go much further. Honestly though it isn't all about money. If this isn't for you that's ok, but if you got a VR headset please give it a shot.
Mason Morales
Not if you hang out with them all once a year and keep in touch online.
>founder of Bigscreen VR >founder of Pool VR >CTO at Oculus (John Carmack) >shitlord in chief and Oculus founder (Palmer Luckey) ~roughly my age and gave me a bit of something to shoot for~ >founder of Arc Reality (it me)
So many more not pictured. I was insanely lucky to meet Michael Abrash, Michael Antonov, Nate Mitchell, the founders of Space Bullet, the guys from Tested, the founder of RoadToVR, and many many more. All I look forward to the year round is coming back to Oculus Connect (so far I’ve just been to 3 and 4). They say never meet your heroes but all of these people truly are working on things that will be remembered as the first examples of experiences of things nobody has ever seen before. We truly are living in an extraordinary time and I love every one of you guys who so far I’ve met along the way. I hope to meet more of you and have the kinds of conversations that are the motivation to push me through those all nighters to get back to Connect each year.
>Jow Forums is just a bunch of losers derp Because i dont fall for the kike demoralization and enjoy talking to people about technology?
Adrian Rodriguez
>Carmack might be here. We were discussing how programming languages are becoming bloated which brought us to the topic of BASIC and then Holy C then Carmack told me he "admires the Temple OS project".
>le everything is a kike conspiracy xd Yeah, I'm sure the programming panties and the 1366x768 screenshots are just ironic. Amirite guyz? We're all just pretending, in reality we're all 600k per year math majors. It's not like we're a bunch of unemployed anime watching neckbeards. Right?
Ian Wilson
Sure, it makes a lot of money. But it makes money because the users don't have anything else going on in their lives, so they dump all their money into this virtual world to command the respect of the other losers who inhabit it. There's also a lot of money flowing into Furaffinitiy, people paying hundreds of dollars for porn drawings of their furry character. Doesn't mean it's an actually fun, interesting site or it's going mainstream any time soon.
Hudson Ortiz
A couple current/former people at our company with thinkpads (t420, t400, x220)
My Corebooted x220 with AC wifi upgrade Parabola 16gb ram 1866mhz. QEMU/KVM IOMMU enforced MacOS VM. Productivity when I need it and freedom when I need it.
IOMMU hardware enforced memory compartmentlization tl;dr is if you can root the virtual machine your attack surface for breaking out of the hypervisor into the host is 100k lines of code (total size of the tiny IOMMU codebase) vs the entire kernel without hardware enforced memory compartmentalization.
I wrote lots of the software I have in production today on this machine.
As for programming socks ya I know a Facebook employee who shitposts about this and is way down the tech imageboard rabbit hole. Jow Forums seems like normie shit to him.
>being this bitter this is what is holding you back user
Jack Torres
Am I wrong? Who are the faggots who dress in women's clothing and clutter the catalog with pics of their legs? Are they all just well adjusted facebook employees like that user implies? I'm not buying it for some reason Don't get me wrong, there are some knowledgeable people, but they're the minority. As in only 3 or 4 of them making relevant posts any given day. And there are also a lot of random normalfags from /v/. And none of those groups are the ones posting their pedo riced arch installs on the desktop thread. It's not a kike conspiracy, it's just a reality. Jow Forums is filled with loser degenerates
Camden Smith
seems doubtful considering most regular games require large teams with many skills to iron out bugs, create models, design art etc nobody in their basement or for free in their spare time is making groundbreaking VR content that joe guy hasn't heard of
Dominic Campbell
>vr fags so desperate to believe the "future" hype they will invent a conspiracy about secret underground content you fell for the meme just admit it and move on
Joseph Edwards
there is absolutely nothing wrong with dressing in womens clothing and telling your peers about it looking for style insight. you are a fag?
Charles Gomez
*tick
yep, added this one to my list of posts that are just satisfying someones need to stir up shit without providing any real substance that appears to actually back up their assertion as a real opinion they hold
Plus less than a third of that chart is from after Oculus/Vive were announced. So I don't know what you're trying to prove.
Joshua Morgan
>1366x768 it's like the most common screen resolution, period dunno how that applies to being a loser NEET, most well-adjusted people don't give a rat's ass about screen resolution
>programming panties is practically a mainstream meme you can literally look up "programming socks" on Amazon and it'll pull up the striped socks and shimapan in the first 5 results
Jow Forums is a moderately fast board on a site that's literally used by millions, most of which are lurkers losers are loud and visible in a place like this, they've got the time to keep posting all fucking day and showing off their shaved legs and their basically non-functional anime desktops with naked lolis in the background covered up only by a window
Angel Jones
>posts pictures of self and rants about kikes at the same time wew, lad
Nicholas Murphy
It's actually healthy growth. This technology isn't going anywhere anytime soon. My school ASU recently held an Innovation day and VR was the highlight of the convention; the ability to simulate cells on the molecular level AND interact with them is invaluable for personalized medicine.
Nicholas Morgan
There are all kinds of people here. Most are pretty average I think, but since those dont stand out they are less noticed.
Liam Collins
AlphaWorld, we had this shit in the late 90's.
You could create your own music, build just about anything, even program NPCs.
It gets boring fast and you go back to IRC or forums.
well i dont know how to respond to retardation, the graph is literally climbing. the opposite of dead. you can even make the argument for it being dead based off of that graph, you could maybe if you presented something else. but yea, just retardation.. not sure how to respond to that
>the ability to simulate cells on the molecular level AND interact with them is invaluable for personalized medicine.
ill just wait for some neckbeard to use his fedora magic and brainstorm the best way to shit on that.
Carter Watson
It's just coping from poorfags because they don't want to believe they're missing out. That's what happens when you have a technology board filled with people who can't afford any good technology.
Isaiah Robinson
>the ability to simulate cells on the molecular level AND interact with them is invaluable for personalized medicine.
They do that without VR dipshit, have since... fuck I think the 80's is when they started using simulations to find medicine.
Anthony Flores
I guess, but just look at this guy , i mean he doesnt even understand what is being talked about. What the fuck is going on in this board
Lucas Rodriguez
You know exactly whats going on faggot.
They don't even use VR for remote surgery, they use controllers and a fucking monitor because they aren't into useless gimmicks.
i think he means you are literally talking about something else than what was originally even mentioned you ADHD rice nigger
Josiah Gomez
>something else Relativity is subjective, he doesn't want it to be similar to what he is envisioning so he dismisses it offhand.
VR goggles have no place in medicine.
Adrian Collins
You said yourself they use cameras instead. Why wouldn't VR be an improvement once the resolution can match a camera? Same basic function, only now you have added depth perception.
Angel Cook
If you are controlling robotic tools with a monitor and some hand controls, do you want something restricting your field of view?
Do you think someone wants to wear goggles for hours to be able to see what they are doing on an operating table? Its a fucking joke it will never be useful.