Oracle wins

> Oracle wins
> APIs are copyrightable. Now Oracle and potentially many other companies can sue Open Source projects for implementing the same APIs.

> Google wins.
> APIs are not cpoyrightable. Now big companies can EEE open source projects without anything to worry about.
> Fuck with Java's cross paltform compatibility by adding own platform specific codes.

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Either way, we're fucked.

It's US laws. What do you expect at this point? Even if US judges don't find a weird way to interpret simple sentences the legislators themselves tend to add shit until its extremely verbose contradictory nonsense and you can pick what you want and offer it to a court as long as you got 20+ specialists working that bloat to pick out what pleases you.

> Implying Java cross platform compatibility would even matter in a world where 99% of user interactions happen through the browser or closed ecosystems anyway

I mean is it even a competition who's side is best for the open source community? I think Google's done a fuckload more for open source than Oracle has in the last decade. Something something benevolent dictatorship

Google is far from benevolent, you mong.

Remember when Microsoft tried to EEE Java by adding Windows only JVM APIs. We would never have had Java of Sun didn't win that lawsuit. If Google wins here, it will be free for everyone to fuck with APIs and keep devs in only one ecosystem.

Eg. AOSP vs Google Android. This is EEEing AOSP. Google is fucking with the spirit of Open Source amd GPL. Take the Linux kernel and make Android but give nothing back to AOSP.

Was it not Google who developed AOSP in the first place? They took Linux and they gave back to Linux. They made AOSP and they moved away from it because it was just a publicity stunt.

It wouldn't have died if Google hadn't EEEd it.

It was originally made by google. If you're extinguishing your own creation, it's not EEE.

No. It is still EEE even if it is your own project.

No, Google won't actually be simply free to do that even if it turns out to be a really dumb US court decision. Because they don't just want the US market only.

Bullshit. Plus, Google simply started offering new different products, without extending AOSP.

Eh, what do you mean by Google giving nothing back to AOSP?

He doesn't mean shit because he doesn't even understand what he's talking about. So far Android is licensed under Apache and GPL, it would take a lot of legal effort to change it from x to y. Additionally, the project goal differences are so huge, it was literally the best way to split the project apart from the linux kernel, as it would have fucked regression, and we sure know who doesn't like his kernels to break due to regression.

We're probably better off with oracle winning since it's easy to just stop using proprietary services, but much harder to deal with an API that suddenly and constantly starts to fuck over everything that uses it except for the API maker's own applications.

The problem with that is that specifications are different from the code that implements them.
If I ask for a datasheet from Freescale semiconductor for the 86HC09, and follow the spec exactly, I have not infringed any copyright at all.

>Google wins.
>APIs are not copyrightable. Now big companies can EEE open source projects without anything to worry about.
>Fuck with Java's cross paltform compatibility by adding own platform specific codes.
How is that supposed to work? EEE only works when a single company has strong influence over the implementation of a standard. Fucking with the Java interfaces would just make your code run nowhere else.

>computer programs are "literary works" subject to copyright
Biggest joke of the whole thing, at least as far as US law is concerned. This isn't a case of new technology being created that is applicable to a very old law (taser bans being deemed illegal on 2A grounds even though they never existed 200 years ago, 1A laws protecting email etc) it's a classic case of a congress being too inept, apathetic, or deadlocked to pass an appropriate law so a law is instead beat into a mold it doesn't fit by the bench.

Newfag here. What is EEE?

It's for when you find porn
>Encounter
>Extract
>Ejaculate

He said benevolent DICTATORSHIP, stop forgetting to read and comprehend the full meaning of a statement you mong. It's called the lesser of two evils.

Why worry about EEE open source platforms? They'd either fork it, or recreate it, and that generally doesn't harm open source projects.

Correction: Why worry about them trying to "EEE" an open source project, which I take to mean them forking it for their own uses, or reimplementing it.

I Hope Oracle so google finally drops the Java piece of shit and move on to Fuschia OS

Java is a good language (Development wise)

but the virtualization layer just fucks everything up

It made sense 10 years ago where they were over 50 chink arm cpus each doing whatever the fuck they wanted, so you needed a virtual machine as to get a program to work correctly no matter the CPU


But nowadays there are 4 or 5 big CPU makers, and they should accommodate their architecture to fit the language instead of the other way around

That's why ChromeOS and iOS run Smoothly and don't require a 4GB+ RAM device to have more than 1 app open

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There are still a trillion chink ARM CPUs. I hate having a Pinebook.