Can't believe this thing is so slow

>stop kvetching and buy Intel oy vey!

LMAO u should have got a 2700x
Moron didn't even get 3200 cl14 I bet

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I know right, i just loaded up my old Pentium 4 and... it feels just, snappier than the AMD

1 out of 10 OP. Must try harder.

My Core2Duo feels snappier than AMD 2990W

>comparing a 2012 cpu with a 2017 one

he's trying to say that the new AMD runs like a 6 ear old CPU

I know, right.

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He literally posted it again.
HERB

>comparing i3 with i5
are you brainlet or what?

REKT

Look at the price.

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Both perform the same... so...

and this my friends is why AMD shills turn me away from Ryzen everyday. AMD has no shortcomings and they'll literally jump through the biggest hoops to make sure it look like Intel is awful and Ayymd is perfectly just.

Here's the facts. AMD will never match Intel's top of the line CPUs, ever. It just will never happen barring some absolute meltdown (lol) from Intel. AMD will continue to blow Intel the fuck out in midrange CPUs, The i5s the i3s and probably on the lower end entry level CPUs as well. They'll never be as good for gayming.

Don't let the Jow Forums shills fool you. They couldn't give a fuck less about gayming. If AMD gets close to Intel, they'll bring up price-to-performance. If AMD matches Intel in a couple games, AMD is instantly the go-to for gayming. If Intel still remains on top, which it will, then they'll do mental gymnastics about how you're a child and games don't matter. Same shit happened with the FX series, granted it was shit compared to Ryzen.

Nothing AMD has now or even next year will most likely match the 9900k. Retards kept telling us that at when the 8700k came out. "J-Just watch for Z-Zen+!" and the 2700x even when overclocked to 4.4ghz can't match a fucking stock 8700k.

Now I'm going to get called a kike or something because I'm right.

just get one with a highter rpm

Are you using 3200CL14 or faster memory?

OH NO NO NO NO NO

this, infinity fabric is retarded

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this

At least we don't have to buy $200 Z motherboards to use good RAM

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4 threads stutters in gaymes
8 threads does not

t. recently replaced 2500k with 3770k

>infinity fabric is retarded

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>8 threads does not
will soon

It's good enough to keep me going for another year or two. That'll be me almost a decade on the same mobo

Why would anyone ever have brand loyalty and care this much?

Unless they were paid to care on the internet.

Obviously we need more STUTTERFIRE BINGBUS

It really is, why would AMD make it run at the speed of your RAM? That's literally the reason why ryzen looks so bad in most gaymen benchmarks. Since most reviewers are braindead faggots they use 2400mhz cl16 sticks or worse.

Because there's no reason to get intel anymore. You're getting 3-5% better fps but pay hundreds more in cooling, Z motherbpards, and the processor itself

>hundreds more
i built a pc last year in april. my 6700k was $270 new, motherboard was $90, and my cooler was $35. that's almost $400.

a ryzen 1600 would've been $220, a b350m motherboard was the same around $90 and i would've trust the stock cooler so we'll add $30. now add in the extra $30 for faster ram. suddenly ryzen isn't so cheap. no need to lie about this stuff shill.

>tfw my uncle bought that """new""" PC and he was rubbing in my face that it was """faster""" than mine

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I'll admit 1st gen ryzen was nothing to brag about but zen+ saw a 5% uplift in IPC and 5% higher clocks. Now the only thing intel has to compete with AMD value on the 6-core side is the 8400 which gets curb stomped if you throw in good RAM and a hyper evo 212 to OC the 2600 to 4.1-4.2 GHz.

Remember intel can't use good RAM unless you buy a $150+ Z motherboard. Meanwhile $50 B450s are able to use ~$160 8x2GB b-die 3200MHz CL14 ram kits just fine.

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FUCK. I have a 6600k and want to upgrade. I'm playing the wait™ game though and it seems to really be paying off.

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Hi kike.

>dips to 20
>never see mine go below 120 on a stock 2600

Your GPU is gay

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>That's literally the reason why ryzen looks so bad in most gaymen benchmarks.
No, it's because the AVX units are literally half as wide, providing literally half the AVX2 performance.
You're retarded

whoops, wrong image

but yeah, value wise the i5-8400 is all intel has left and even then good luck finding it for $200.

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Then explain why a 2700X can curb stomp a higher clocked i7-8700K on a non-Z motherboard by using good RAM.

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obvious bait

Given all modern processors are at margin of errors of each other per clock, then all the CPUs are slow.
And yes, all the CPUs are slow.

2 more cores, not every workload is AVX2.

Most of those games can't use more than 2-4 cores efficiently though. Tossing more cores doesn't improve performance.

>If I spout the same old tired arguments from 2008, I'm sure i'll win!
You lose intelaviv.

It's true though, on average the i7-7700K still performs faster than a 2700X but only when you gimp it with slow RAM.

I'm all for AMD btw, you think I LIKE being stranded on kabylake?

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Most of the old,DX11 games.
In the near future, as games use DX12/Vulkan, they will get a lot better at using more cores, because they will be able to use all the cores to drive the graphical api, instead of just "the blessed CPU core".
Just check Doom/Wolf2.

Why did you use a different site?
You seem to be cherry picking your images to support your argument.

Nice monologue, you transparent shill.

Minor point though, AMD had dumpsters Intel's entire consumer and workstation product stack prior to coffee lake, and only the 8700k, 9700k, and 9900k are even vaguely defensible choices from Intel today.

You are, like a typical Intel shill, cherry picking a single use case (memory latency sensitive lightly threaded applications) and pretending it's the only performance metric that exists, because that is the only remaining use case where Intel has a performance advantage.

Unfortunately for you, Zen2 is only a few months away and it simultaneously increases IPC, increases clocks, and decrease memory latency. With the 9900k only having a 10-15% performance advantage over the 2700x (at twice the price), it's pretty much guaranteed to be surpassed even in memory latency sensitive lightly threaded applications, and absolutely posterized on all other workloads.

Even better, the 9900k is already hanging against the thermal limit with high end cooling solutions, and a 10-core is only going to make that problem worse, meaning Intel has already ceilinged in single threaded performance until they get a new uarch and a node shrink.

*Has dumpstered. Fucking autocorrect.

Because that's the reality of reviewers these days and I wanted to show gimped 2700X performance. Most DON'T even use 3200mhz cl14 RAM for ryzen even though cheap b450 motherboards have no problem using it as long as it's samsung b-die.

Anyway my point still stands, most games at the present will not benefit from more cores. The only reason 6-8 core processors are growing in popularity is because now you can do something else while playing vidya like SW cpu screen recording or streaming.

>until they get a new uarch and a node shrink.
Which is a long way off. I predict many salty intel tears.

that's untrue, i overclocked my 3200 ram on my $90 z270m board

>Z
In general you won't find these under $150 so consider yourself lucky though faster RAM doesn't affect performance as much on an intel system. Meanwhile $50 b450s are using 3200mhz ram kits just fine.

How much more expensive is 3200mhz RAM?

nevermind, looks like intel is giving handouts again.

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there's lots of z370 boards on amazon and newegg that are $100-$120 at least in the us

X299 EVGA dark for 265$ brand new and 9800X 580$ with 44 pcie lanes with some thermal Grizzly Kryo. Going to hit 5Ghz with my Noctua cooler for sure if not 4.8. AMD fags love being second best
>inb4 wow for 6% boost you’re going x299?
165 hz gaming requires a good cpu not AMD poo tier

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>Got my 2600x for $160
>OCed it to 3.8GHz with air cooler
>Runs perfectly stable
>Got 3000mhz cl15 ram to go with it for cheap
>Got ram up to 3000mhz no problem
>Have had zero bottlenecks with everything so far with zero studder

You guys think that if the x570 has pci 4.0 that the b550 boards would as well?

You know it runs higher than 3.8ghz out of the box, right?

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Forgot to mention that most of the games are running at 1440p with 144hz at 80+ fps on ultra.

Significantly more expensive than 2133 CL15

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Doom is on vulkan a weird animal.
The multicore nature of the graphical API makes the CPU pretty irrelevant, at a point a crappy bulldozer can get quite close to the core stuff on it.

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Yes, 3.8ghz is enough for now. Haven't had any issues with that speed.

Yeah. So you didn't overclock it, you downclocked it. Let it run at stock speed and boost and you'll like it even better.

2600X comes 3.6GHz out of the box. The factory recommended frequency outside of that is 4.2GHz for OCing safely.

good shitpost, but intel's the one known for fps dips.. your lack of knowledge has shown the fakeness of your post.

>$90
Got my 1600 for $200 and a $65ish B350.
>trust the stock cooler so we'll add $30
>no need to lie about this stuff shill

>AMD RYZEN 5 2600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost)
You downclocked your processor dumbass.

imagine buying intel 6/6 trash in 2019, typical shill. either that or overpriced dogshit aka 9th gen

Don't worry he's retarded. He might need that all core freq more than decisive single/dual core.
Overclockers know best!

>Bumps up stock frequency
>This is somehow underclocking

Why not just use XFR though?

By manually overclocking his preventing his processor from boosting intelligently. Out of the box his processor would run faster than what hes achieving with it now.

So using the auto settings is far better than manual?

Quick google search spits out 2600X's all-core should settle in around 3.9-4GHz all core if the stars align with temps/power draw.
So that person is giving up maybe 300-500MHz single core freq (which is more often to be hit) and 100MHz all core.

Unless you can get all core overclock to 4.1 ghz or higher, yes.

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Is ryzen 2600/2700 cpus good for compressing. And extracting files? Im constantly using 7zip to deal with 100-500gb zipped files.

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>165 hz
>mesh garbage
Shiggy.

why would you blow all that money and not even get the best? get a 9900k retard.

You can't run more than one program with the 6600k? You must be doing something wrong cx

Web browsing is slow on my 2600

the stock cooler that comes with amd isn't bad but it's loud as hell at load believe me. you could easily buy a scythe fuma on sale and get near nh-d15 level performance and noise for $40.

anyway i factored the cooler cost in both of them. a good b450m costs $90 if you're lucky you can get something like the msi b450m mortar on sale for $70. doesn't make it hundreds of dollars cheaper.

Stock would run your CPU at around 4.1GHz you massive retard.
OCing your 2600X would be at 4.2/4.25GHz.

works on my machine :)

>a thread died for this
>again
kys pls

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>calls a retard
>16 pcie lanes is enough for this user
Fucking kys you shit poster. You are a waste of fat and skin.
I have 2 1080Tis in SLI and want full bandwidth. It helps for frame pacing dumb ass

> not pro gpu SLI
Do you consider suicide on a daily basis?

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>her