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I like Xfce but i dislike the status bar and would prefer using a more minimal one although i have no idea how to do that.
Oliver Evans
Why does both gtk and qt feel so bloated and awful? every theme i try using for both gtk and qt looks so awful. Why do terminal apps feel so much better to use over them?
how do I use terminal apps? i tried to use rtorrent but I didn't get how to do anything
Brandon Parker
for me, it's Slackware 14.2 + Xfce
Kevin White
it's cool that people are shilling Devuan now though you can still install Debian without sysd
Asher Williams
LXDE is even more comfy, minimalist, nice, and just always easy to use, plus it doesn't drag your memory through the shitter, without firefox when it's fully booted it only uses 1 GB. See?
I actually see LXDE with good eyes but they are doing a big transition to qt and this makes me uneasy.
Connor Long
>shilling a router distro as a desktop os. >irrational dislike of GNU. >annoying shithead
Tyler Turner
>all "desktop" "os"'s started as router os's >gnu is anti competitive and anti consumer. gcc is full of hard coded kernel plugins that force you to use gcc. Meaning gcc is not portable. gcc produces bloated slow binaries compared to llvm/clang+musl c on equal optimization levels and flags. >im a gnu shill so i wont listen to any critique of precious gnu
Jonathan Gonzalez
I have a problem with my autistic install of debian It has several problems but now the biggest is I can't play audio I have phones connected to my headphone jack but it does not play any sound Will need a couple minutes to send lspci and aplay -l outputs but any ideas on how to fix? It happened today, I turned the pc on but with the headphones not plugged in and since then I can't hear anything, have restarted it a couple of times now.
Isaac Baker
who else /lesbian/ (male) here? >2779 packages virgins not alloud to reply
Hard to install minimal Xorg and XFCE on debian stable. The dependencies are bloat. Try to install Xorg with the vesa driver and you get intel, nvidia, radeon, amdgpu and a load of wayland shit thrown in for good measure. xfdesktop4 and xfwm4 demands a whole load of crap too.
Luke Hughes
Wtf, sound works now, thanks Jow Forums, guess I just needed to restart my pc 15 times to get it to work
Aiden Johnson
>discord
Benjamin Wilson
>debian is "lightweight" >every *netch post has near 3000 packages
Lincoln Rogers
Yeah.
Julian Sanders
>dickscord
Jaxson Jackson
Debian is lightweight, however it's easy to get bogged down with packages, i'll do a blank, guiless netinst install and CC you with the packages if you want.
>thinks bare metal means anything If you need 3000+ packages for a common desktop install, you are not lightweight, you're bloated to fuck
Carson Carter
Fuck off archnigger. Package count doesn't mean anything.
Isaiah Wilson
>package count >meaning anything >especially when the same software is 1 package on gentoo and split into 30 packages in debian Need directions to the gas chamber or you can get there by yourself?
Aaron Scott
Can anyone recommend a distro to run on an i686 Dell Inspiron 1300?
Daniel Sullivan
>The absolute unstable mental status of debain users
Nolan Brooks
I'm glad Jow Forums is learning to think for themselves instead of making their lives arbitrarily difficult for internet points.
Matthew Morris
If it has pae: any distro which still has 32bit port If it doesn't: debian, it still has non-pae kernel available to install
Dylan Myers
Debian splits things into many packages. There is a man page package, a source package, a lib package, a data package, a common package etc, etc. It's actually less bloated that way because you can pick which parts of the software to use.
Noah Rodriguez
Reposting the problem. Whenever I middle or right click, the menu/scroll ref point spawns far off from my mouse click.
Someone locked him out of the printer, and something inside of him snapped that day.
John Davis
autism, and being surrounded by yes-men who revere him as a god and would never dare to question him
Jose Roberts
>having a brain so small you can't comprehend why a number doesn't mean anything check your disk usage retard. A Debian system with more packages has less disk usage than a meme arch system. Fucking retard. Is literally more for less the price
Connor Cruz
>Is literally more for less the price If you have to install 6000 packages to get the same amount of software that you get with 1000 packages in gentoo or arch, you arent getting anything but more bloat and dep issues. OOPS I FOR GOT TO INSTALL PACKAGE-A PACKAGE-B PACKAGE-C PACKAGE-D PACKAGE-E PACKAGE-F PACKAGE-G PACKAGE-H BECAUSE MY "OS" "SEPARATES" THEM FOR "MY OWN GOOD"
Justin Foster
based af. fuck gnu tards
Bentley Ortiz
Someone installed debian minimal and arch side by side in a vm and debian had more packages than arch but arch took up more disk space
Gabriel Harris
>b-but is hard so is bloated waah The absolute state of archtoddlers. All dependencies are managed automatically by the way
Caleb Morris
Funny how i see APT UNINSTALLED 50 GIGABYTES OF PACKAGES AUTOMATICALLY AFTER I UPDATED being posted the last few threads as well as APT WANTS TO REMOVE ALL THESE SYSTEM PACKAGES AND WHEN I REBOOTED I GOT A BLANK SCREEN Or the classic APT CANNOT INSTALL SYSTEM-PACKAGE BECAUSE SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP SYSTEMDEP
Check the archives :^)
Colton Barnes
a u t i s m
Ryan Robinson
is not made for niggers like you who could have guessed
Aaron Cox
I dont have a problem,portage and pacman dont fuck up deps :^)
Isaac Young
>package managers for niggers Again, Debian is for white intelligent men, not subhumans.
Isaiah Cox
shouldn't intelligent white men have better things to do than worry about dependencies
Christian Peterson
>debian is for whites Look at all those mexican,indian and arab contributors :) contributors.debian.org/
Josiah Davis
>Unfortunately the bloat is real. Your autism is also real, get professional help of hang yourself, both works as long as you stop posting.
Matthew Collins
exactly, that's why we use stable systems like CentOS and Debian Stable instead of dealing with compiling packages, fixing untested packages from retarded arch devs, or wasting time compiling a whole system from source which needs at least the double of space at a time.
>fixing untested packages from retarded arch devs Arch packages are directly from upstream with no patches/edits made to them. They land in the "testing" repo so that the package can be tested with the rest o the system for potential errors. So at this point, the orginaly developer has already gone through a test cycle and has published a version. It is then tested by arch users for potential issues. It is then pushed to the main repo's after there has been no issues with it. Any "fixing" would be done by the originally developer and then pushed to their own repo. Arch dosent touch packages, 99.99% of package are directly from upstream It seems you dont understand basic package management in distros :)
Grayson Gray
good answer bad answer
Jose Bell
>open gimp >want to take screenshot of gimp >bind control+printscn to scrot >use control+printscn while in gimp >no screenshots taken >use same keybind not using imp >screenshot is taken Why? >I dont need to take a screenshot of the work(solved with an export) i need to take screenshots of menu configs and options
I do not have this problem. Package count is not synonym with bloat.
Landon Williams
Searhing on my 3 favorite engines for "debian dependency hell" proves otherwise I also do not have this problem with portage nor pacman.
Bentley Stewart
How does searching for "debian dependency hell" proves that I have this problem? If I find results for "pacman broke xorg" does that mean you have this problem? Are you dumb?
Robert Lewis
xorg is speculative to what the user has configured. apt flat out refusing to install packages because the package is missing but it is actually installed while also refusing other packages and removing 50gb of packages on an update and bricking the machine...
Pacman does not control the configuration of Xorg at all. Apt directly controls all packages installed and removed on the system. The fault isnt pacman , its hte users config. The fault is apt, it isnt handeling d dependencies properly, which is is supposed to do
Blake Thomas
As I said, I do not have this problem.
Oliver Moore
The World Wide Web proves other wise.
Robert Williams
>uses aptitude >complains dependency solution is shit wew
Samuel Howard
>use libreoffice writer on kde plasma >click on the clock to look at the calendar >go back to writer >scroll wheel stops working >have to minimize then maximize window for it work again
Aiden Lewis
So the fact that you found other people with this problem means I have it? If I find results for "pacman broke xorg" does that mean you have this problem?
Please answer both this question with a yes or no instead of dodging them like the last time.
Aaron Rogers
Such as? I sure haven't had a problem avoiding systemdick on my Debian systems.
Zachary Jackson
because they are
Kayden Campbell
>gcc is full of hard coded kernel plugins that force you to use gcc wat.
Lincoln Reed
lxqt is good except that pcmanfm-qt doesnt have dual pane so fuck it, dumb fucking retards
Liam Moore
stop feeding the retard as you can see here he's using aptitude on purpose which shows you how dependencies are solved that is not even a problem with aptitude, aptitude is just showing you which way do you want to manage it. apt and apt-get just work without giving you any warning and is what everyone uses instead of one baby CLI solution. Arch babies are retarded as fuck because they have no way of doing the same thing different ways
Sebastian Thomas
Again, pacman does not deal with configuration files Apt 100% deals in package management. You are arguing an issue that does not exist
The problem i am posting (and millions of other people have had) is that apt lacks proper dependency resolution. Your incessant need to mention pacman and xorg shows you lack basic understanding of how manage managers work.
We are comparing package managers, not users config files. You can easily find as many problems with xorg if you substitute pacman with apt or portage
Robert Stewart
yeah but gentoo doesnt have an installer
William Diaz
Read the image from
Owen Johnson
u didnt reddit space tho
Tyler Smith
In conclusion, I do not have this problem and you can't seem to be able to prove otherwise.
i barely can remember ever having dependency resolution problems in the 15 years ive been using debian
in fact, i use debian largely because of how good it is at dependency resolution
Jace Peterson
apt is not aptitude you absolute mongoloid. Apt doesn't deal with dependency resolution either it just gets the packages and calls dpkg, dpkg reads and calls dependencies from the package and apt gets them. Literally every package manager works the same, is the package itself that calls for dependencies. That's why Ubuntu calls more dependencies than Debian even though they use the same package manager, it's all on the package maintainer. yet you claim to know how "package management works" though you clearly expressed why arch is such an unstable piece of shit; the fact that they use upstream sources means they do little to none patching to their packages and it means they have security and bug issues, the upstream maintainer gives no fucks about security or compatibility issues as long as the function works somehow on its machine. What a fucking retard nigger monkey you should kill yourself. You are making a favor to your family which is paying for your obese bloat fat ass neet to shitpost such nonsense online thinking you know anything about computers. archbabies btfo
Christopher Flores
>a personal anecdote of a wikipedia editor and the number of google results containing any of the words "debian", "dependency", and "hell" surely override any actual arguments I'm not even using Debian but your idiocy is striking
Michael Adams
The question is whether I have this problem. I do not care about what your botnet tells you. So as it stands I still do not have this problem.
Joshua Diaz
Debain also pushes vanilla packages out retard... Why do you think debain went to systemd? They were tired of having their in house scripts breaking on every update. Now they use systemd and pushed all the responsibility on to systemd to maintain it. Literally every distro has done this , minus snowflake distros.
Caleb Martin
My father has a quite shitty laptop running windows 10. It has 2 gigs of ram and shitty quad core intel processor. He only uses his computer for web browsing, emails and solitaire. I would like to install a distro that's easy to use, low on system resources, is stable and has a windows like user interface. OC boomer for attention
Yes, the freely publicly editable wikipage is libeling debian and we should not believe anything written on it!!!!! Prove me wrong, go to your debian forums and show me 0 results
Robert Murphy
Anything with Xfce or LXDE.
Noah Evans
You've got no libsystemd0 installed? You' sure?
Jackson Thompson
Debian tried to rape me when i put the usb stick in my computer It also gave me aids and the clap You cannot tell me it did not happen because it happened to me!
Christian Nelson
>claims Debian is shit >uses aptitude instead of apt >vanilla packages >packages that they patched themselves for bugs for several months on testing >?????
Nathaniel Rivera
>Yes, the freely publicly editable wikipage is libeling debian and we should not believe anything written on it!!!!! you just destroyed your own argument you retard >Prove me wrong, go to your debian forums and show me 0 results >prove the nonexistence no
Brandon Jenkins
Install Debian stable and customise it so it looks like Windows. You might also compile kernel for it to save memory, I went from 300mb to 150mb on my Debian install.
Julian Jones
Are there any advantages to installing a program through the package managing system? For example would it be better to install pycharm from AUL rather than the official website?
Luke Butler
>>packages that they patched themselves for bugs for several months on testing No distro does this. Everything comes from upstream, literally no one manages a custom repo anymore that shit is so 80's
Jonathan Campbell
>no Because you cannot.
Landon Scott
Is it possible to force certain application to use pagefile?