Shilltel edition Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide w your socket
Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and GPU pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700 - If you have a $2000+ budget and pairing with a 2080 or better >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >Always choose at least a 2 stick kit >8GB - Bare minimum/Light desktop use. >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards; cheap models usually low yield processor. Aim for factory OC versions for best performance >use your due diligence with cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans. They may be cheap, but won't get high boost clocks like better models 1080p >RX 570/580/1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options 1080p@144hz >Vega 56/1070ti best value, Free/G-sync monitor highly recommended 1440p@60-75hz >Vega/1070ti/1080/2070 1440p@100+hz >1080ti/2080 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
Quake 2 actually had CPU renderer, today that is long forgotten practice for some reason.
Robert Edwards
I was referring specifically to build quality rather than performance. Realistically I probably don't need to upgrade my 760 with anything higher than a 580 either, but the eligible models for that offer seem to be armor and stuff.
Ayden Ross
Anyone got any experience with PWM fan controllers? I got enough 4-pin sockets to handle case fans on my mobo, but neither BIOS fan control nor software methods allow me to lower rpm as much as I want. Specifications say that minimum rpm for these fans is 750 prm, but minimum I've managed to achieve is about 1300 rpm and that is pretty damn loud. So I'm thinking maybe a dedicated controller can help me here. Any suggestions?
Henry Hall
Those Celerons overclocked so well that they actually ate into the expensive P2's market share.
Robert Brown
iirc half life/CS had a software renderer too. Not really much of a point these days since every system has some sort of 3d accelerator built in.
>tfw upgrading to an 800x600 monitor I'm completely 100% fine with building a system with aesthetics in mind (as long as it doesn't compromise on required performance), but RGB definitely isn't my thing. Thing is though, aesthetics are completely subjective.
Bentley Edwards
>larp general
Zachary Walker
Any opinions on the triple fan Zotac 1070 ti's? Never really stepped into the world of overclocking, so that's not much of a factor for me.
Joshua Fisher
well i don't know. you may know better than me, probably
Lucas Hughes
I asked a PSU question that no one knew the answer to so I will share what I have found. My psu has a switch on the back for single and multiple mode. Multi rail offers over current protection while single does not. However, multi rail may turn your psu off for no reason at times because of detected power spikes from gpu and such. In practice though, it probably doesn’t matter which one you use if you have a decent psu.
Daniel Nguyen
>2000W >shit GPU >slow ass RAM >shit HDD Try again.
Mate has a Haswell. He kicked into the corner for server duty as soon as Ryzen appeared.
Brody Russell
>I cant cherrypick benchmarks quick enough Shillfail. No intcel shekels for you this thread.
Nicholas Gonzalez
Both. >2133mhz DDR4 And new memory while you're at it. >1050ti I hope you didn't pay RX570 prices for that.
Christopher Jones
>Build new machine >3x3TB RAID5 bench marking around 400mbs read/write >Copy everything over from old build >RAID5 bench marking around 10mbs read/write wtf, has anyone seen something like this? The drives are fine, the array /was/ fine, but it suddenly took a nose dive.
Blake Cooper
Same.
Evan Hughes
>RAM prices going down >Ryzen 2 leaks >GPU market can only get better from this shit I regret building my PC now and not waiting 8 months
Jonathan Roberts
Okay, both. >new memory does memory speed affect Intel as much as on AMD platforms? If not, I probably wouldn't buy a new one. >I hope you didn't pay RX570 prices for that. I paid around 170, I built my PC on February.
Chase Gray
Stop ignoring these people you fucking faggots.
Nolan Mitchell
So I upgraded my pc and now have some parts leftover. Are they worth anything or should I try to sell them secondhand? >i3 7100 w/ stock cooler >Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H >Crucial Ballistix Sport (4x4GB) 16GB DDR4-2400 >MSI GTX 1050ti
Leo Walker
People are busy shitposting than actually helping others. The absolute state of this general.
Benjamin Ortiz
Yep, those parts are still pretty good. You could sell those if you want.
Oliver Martin
Should I get an NXZT H500 or a Meshify C I like that the H500 can have 3 HDDs but the reverse pressure shit looks dumb compared to the Meshify
>Are they worth anything or should I try to sell them secondhand? What does this sentence mean. If they're not worth anything, then you couldn't realistically sell them for anything.
Hunter Morales
who here /never gonna buy amd because intel just werks/? >dont have to do deep research to find le ebin b die ram >dont have to overclock ram >dont have to fiddle with timings >professional software doesnt crash >still get beat in performance by 1 year old intels its time to give in amdrones
Lincoln Gutierrez
Obsidian 450D
Kevin Hernandez
Never saw much point in PWM for case fans, as you can usually get the same results with normal 3pin fans, at a lower cost. A fan controller will definitely help you get your fans to your desired RPM, but I can't think of a controller with PWM functionality off of the top of my head. That being said, I've been using the Bitfenix Recon for a few years now and I'm quite happy with i; adjustments are simple and it can look pretty cool depending on your case design. It also has temperature sensors which you can use to control the fans or just keep an eye on things. The connectors are 3pin but will take 4pin fans, if you're interested.
David Cox
>2018 >still has drive bays
Hudson Williams
>vulkan >still loses Hahahahahahahahaha
Noah Hill
AMDrones just harp on B-die RAM because its the only thing that allows their Ryzens to keep up with Intel.
Intel with B-die RAM also makes it faster.
Henry Adams
>giving up expansion for meme cooling solutions >being this retarded
Henry Ramirez
>implying amd can win at anything besides being poorfags cpu/gpu of choice
Wyatt Miller
the fucking chips don't make a fucking difference you fucking mongs. its the clock speeds. fucking tards.
Just recently got a Meshify C, it's not badly sized as a midtower, but you're gonna want more intake fans. I'm dealing with a used 1080ti (miner) and my temps are stupid high, and i'm not sure if it has to do with it being used or if the case is causing it. I've tried using dual 140mm as intakes and saw no difference, gonna try using 3x120mm as soon as my new fans come in to see if it makes a difference. Also important to note: you can NOT use a full length GPU and a front rad together, there just isn't clearance, there's barely enough clearance for fans and my Strix 1080ti. Overall, i'd say the case is better optimized for a good air cooler for your CPU rather than going for an AIO. The tempered glass i think may be a point that can kill thermal performance as it seals that side of the case off, but there's plenty of breath-ability out of the top and rear. PSU installation and cabling is pretty good, the deep channel near the front is 10/10, but trying to manage cables with the 3.5 cage installed can make for some cramped situations. It's aesthetically pleasing, but i can't give you an accurate judgement on thermals. TL;DR: Meshify ain't bad for the price.
B Die is overrated tbqh It was more important with Zen1 CPUs because they had a ton of compatibility problems with Hynix and Micron memory but they worked great with b die, and RAM was cheaper then. Zen+ has way better comparability with memory and getting b die for 70 dollars more will net a very tiny increase in performance for the price
Michael Clark
but those posts have nothing to do with amd or intel
Henry Butler
yeah but when is intel 10th gen? also how do you know? do you have a link because if you do i would read it.
