>2018
>he still uses a PMP and it can't play Opus 1.3 files
>his favorite Android music player can't recognize .opus files
>he doesn't use .opus to create a transparent, low-bitrate mobile music collection
Why are you still using mp3 and aac when they are so inefficient?
>lossy
Yeah, about that...
>>Why are you still using mp3
>and aac when they are so inefficient?
it's only 16kbps more efficient than Apple AAC.
autism has found the thread
>Why are you still using mp3 and aac when they are so inefficient?
How is mp3 of all things inefficient? Wouldn't transcoding every piece of music you have be a larger burden? I mean, it's not like you're downloading music digitally in anything other than MP3, FLAC or WAV for the most part.
>How is mp3 of all things inefficient?
Well, it does require a higher bitrate to achieve the same level of quality compared to Opus, AAC and Vorbis.
>Wouldn't transcoding every piece of music you have be a larger burden?
Audio transcoding doesn't require much processing power. Writing a script to loop through your music library and convert everything to Opus isn't difficult.
That being said, if you already have MP3s there's no reason to find a lossless source only to convert it to Opus. Lossy vs. lossless makes a huge difference file size wise. Going from q0 MP3 to 128Kbps Opus not so much.
Which is also why this is good for long length audio files, like podcasts.
>How is mp3 of all things inefficient?
try looking up efficiency in the dictionary
Because I like to be able to play my music everywhere instead of saving a few MBs
AAC and Opus are really close. But AAC is better tested for edge cases and better supported with lower CPU usage.
Opus is only better for very low bitrate stuff (audiobooks).
It's extremely significantly better at lower bitrates and barely marginally better at high bitrates.
>barely marginally better at high bitrates
If by high bitrates you mean 96kbps. At 128k they're both transparent.
Do any of you know of a good music library app that can show opus covers? so far only mx player does but its not a music library
How do i know if an digital audio player supports .opus?
Is opus ogg?
ogg is just the container for vorbis or opus encoded audio streams
Ahh i see, so if something supports ogg, i'm all set for opus. Neat.
not necessarily, if it supports ogg its propably just ogg/vorbis
Why are you preaching to the choir?
>How do i know if an digital audio player supports .opus?
by trying to play .opus files
I have my entire music library converted to 96kbps VBR OPUS files. Transparent sound compared to FLAC.
It's not transparent until you get to 128kps, dummy.
is there a android program that lets you batch convert music to opus? it's entirely in FLAC.
transparent for my shitty hearing and my shitty music, dummy
Just use ffmpeg
yeah, but I don't own a PC or a laptop, only an Android phone.
Loser
I'm saving my radio shows in opus @ 64 Kbps, goes from 600 MB (FLAC) to like 30 MB. Feels good but, should I go lower? it's mostly voice (like any radio show), but I'm deleting the FLACs, so the opus files are the archives.
Apparently, nintendo uses this on the new smash.
#1 argument for mp3 is that it works on everything. Nothing ever bitches about it.
I just spent like 6 hours converting my podcast library to opus. Kill yourself fagggggggggot.
>I'm saving my radio shows in opus @ 64 Kbps,
That's very low. You'll see a massive loss of quality from doing that.
>goes from 600 MB (FLAC) to like 30 MB
>I'm deleting the FLACs, so the opus files are the archives.
Why? Storing 700MB indefinitely isn't difficult.
>That's very low. You'll see a massive loss of quality from doing that.
This isn't mp3 we're talking about. 64k opus is better than 128k mp3.
Why not put it at 128 then, most people say that's its sweet spot. File size would still be below 100mb for sure.
>This isn't mp3 we're talking about. 64k opus is better than 128k mp3.
Sure, but it's still well below transparency.
My entire music library is in 128kbps opus on my microsd for portable purposes. It's like ~60GiB compared to my FLAC archive which is like 410GiB. It's pretty nice.
holy moly.
my whole flac collekshun is like 60gb.
how many songs do you listen to?
I've been collecting CDs for years. I think I'm technically at around 13000 songs or so.
w00t
I'm at 1200 or so(with non flacs 1500 about).
I have been listening/collecting music files for years too.
how'd you get so many?
ugh my post sounds retarded.
my whole music library is in flac.
But its only about 60gb.
How did you get to expand your music experience so much?
not him but private trackers, most likely
I'm in similar numbers, 14k songs is around 46 days of music
Music is probably my biggest personal hobby. I personally like having the physical product, so I buy CDs to try and support the various bands I like. I've been doing this for years and stuff just piles up over time. After some time, you pretty nail down the genres you like and branch out into the bands/artists that fit those genres. I don't think my music library is that large. There are probably plenty of people with bigger ones.
I see.Thanks for the input.
I was more asking about how people get such a xboxhueg large collection of music they like.
Like how do yall discover new music?
besides
>FOSS
why should I give a shit about this over mp3s using VBR for mobile music?
sauce or you're a faggot
there's a lot of music out there, many genres to explore
not sure about that user, but I have many repeated pieces; same composition with different artists
Just look up well-known bands/artists in the genres you like. If you want more of that genre, then venture down into more obscure artists. If you want a different genre, then look up the more well-known artists of that genre. Repeat the process forever and suddenly you'll have a sizeable music collection.
>lopus codec
thanks for delivering, this shit is hilarious
clearly it was written by a retard, but the funnier part is that the "source" is a twitter thread about some faggot who's (supposedly) already ripped and uploaded the music from the game
top fucking kek, appreciate it
lib opus.
And the files are TINY by the quality they have.
1.4MB for 4 minutes of high quality music.
>I have many repeated pieces; same composition with different artists
same.
I have about 7 different versions of computerliebe.
>transparent for my shitty hearing and my shitty music, dummy
which means nothing
I think all opus files are VBR by default
most of the new music I have goes up to 140 even though they're 128 files
>Like how do yall discover new music?
by actually listening to music from genres you like, from online radio, blogs, etc.
>why should I give a shit about this over mp3s using VBR for mobile music?
it beats mp3 v0 at 128k
REEEEEE im too autistic
REEEEEEEEEEEE FOR THAT
>beats
with a shovel? does the machine code look prettier to you? better compression? better for archival use? compatible with more devices/software?
>>I think all opus files are VBR by default
nope. it's just like mp3. cbr or vbr.
by default, so it's a bit redundant to say it
I guess there are cases where people need constant bitrate, but I can't think of any
Signal uses Opus at CBR to make sure people can't examine the metadata to decipher speech.
Should work that way, ogg is just a container after all, and Opus is intended to supersede Vorbis
Efficiency
What's your point? I don't care where the objective transparency line is. I care about what I hear.
If 96 kbps is enough for me, then that's what I'm gonna use.
Scrubs
I'm at 34k right now
go to /mu/ and lurk
Because fuck finding everything in flac and then transcoding it, that's a hassle.
I just converted all my mp3s to this but quality didn't go up. What gives?
>converted all my mp3s to this
kek what a retard
I just listen to whatever format my music is available in, whether it's wav or 96kbps mp3. Converting is autism.
Should have converted to flac.
just converto all your mp3's to flac. Quality will go up.
10 bucks he felt for this.
Gambling is not allowed in 4channel
i did it in my collection.
ffmpeg -i input -c:a libopus -b:a 162000 output
input is 320k mp3.
thx Jow Forums again.