So 8700K and 9700K are just about the same price here. Is there any reason to buy the older 8700K instead of the newer 9700K?
I'm not understanding how this makes sense.
So 8700K and 9700K are just about the same price here...
Chase Brooks
Zachary Perez
minor pricing mistakes happen all the time the 9700k is a little bit better than the 8700k
Easton Foster
The price of old models are rarely reduced. They're just kept at MSRP until sold out.
Get 9700k.
Lucas Hall
If you do one of the few highly threaded and well optimized for hyperthreading tasks, like encoding or rendering. Then get the 8700k because it has hyper threading.
But for pretty much everything else, 9700k with 8 real cores vs the 8700k with 6 real cores, the 9700k is going to be better.
Again, the 8700k pulls ahead in a few niche situations generally involving professional software that has been properly optimized for hyperthreading. But for gaming, the 9700k is generally gonna be better since real cores are better than hyperthreading.
William Jackson
Here in Canada, 9700K is $530 while 9700K is $490. They're essentially the same price.
Benjamin Wood
*9700K is $530 and 8700K is $490 I mean
Andrew Reed
Convert that to USD and you get $397 for 9700k and $367 for 8700k.
In the US, at my local computer store, 9700k is $400, and 8700k is $330.
Much further apart price than for you.
Zachary Taylor
Why not just get a ryzen 2700X? You'll get higher multi-threaded performance for multi-tasking and since zen+ has higher IPC than coffee lake it has about the same gaymen performance too.
Aiden Mitchell
>since zen+ has higher IPC than coffee lake it has about the same gaymen performance too
lol why lie?
If you're gaming, especially at 1080p 144hz, you'd be retarded to get Zen.
Christopher Long
pretty much this I actually have a 1600 right now and I hate it. I want to get Intel and sell off my 1600.
Jaxson Gutierrez
lol why lie?
If you're gaming, especially at 1080p 144hz, you'd be retarded to get Intel.
Aiden Robinson
lol okay kid
Andrew Cruz
>use shitty RAM
>"oh noes I'm retarded and it's all AMD's fault!"
Parker Johnson
>he has to spend an extra $50-100 on RAM that's fast enough for his CPU.
Brandon Foster
>8700k
It's like AMDrones don't even know the 9700k has been out for months.
Austin Hill
Whether you like it or not Zen+ does have HIGHER IPC than coffee lake if you use good RAM. Anyways the 9700K requires very high end liquid cooling (think triple fans in push pull) JUST to maintain stock clocks.
So either:
A: get a $300 2700X + 3200MHz CL14 RAM kits than only cost like $40 more with 99% the performance of a i7-8700K and cool it all with a $20 hyper 212 AND be able to upgrade to zen 2 which will be faster than the i9-9900K OC'd to 5.1 GHz
or
B: Get a $400 i7-9700K + $200+ AIO and spend even more to get a quiet triple fan push-pull config setup with minimal noise AND a very high end Z motherboard that actually supports its (((((95W))))) TDP
Elijah Scott
Also 9700K has half the thread count as the cheaper 2700X lmao.
Andrew Reyes
>AMD’s Ryzen processors had a clear advantage in core count when they hit the market, and when the 2000-series Ryzen chips dropped, AMD still offered the best option for highly multi-threaded workloads. But Intel never lost its IPC advantage, and now the 9th Generation Core processors go toe to toe with Ryzen 7 in core count, which give the new Intel chips a clear performance advantage.
tomshardware.com
Colton Rogers
>Anyways the 9700K requires very high end liquid cooling (think triple fans in push pull) JUST to maintain stock clocks.
Is this true? I was planing to buy a 9700k soon.
Oliver Flores
8th and 9th gen chips are pretty major house fires but he's exaggerating. You do need something better than a hyper 212 though.
Brandon Bennett
No, the AMDrone is exaggerating.
However, it doesn't come with a stock cooler, they EXPECT you to have a decent cooler with this CPU. With a single 120mm AIO you'll probably see peeks in temps around 85c at stock.
So if you want any sort of OC headroom, you'll need to go for NH-D15, or a 240, 280, 360mm AIO water setup, or a custom water setup.
Austin Gray
Yes, the slightly higher clocked i9-9900K FAILED a 100MHz OC at 1.35V (lottery chip) with a corsair H100i PRO.
Andrew Johnson
The 5GHz OC is a 5Ghz All core, which is ALREADY 300mhz over stock, stock all core turbo is 4.7Ghz.
5.1GHz is 400mhz over stock.
Mason Price
kabylakefag here: why go through with all this exotic cooling when zen 2 is going to crush intel anyways? At the very least wouldn't it make sense to wait the 3-4 months before the launch of zen 2 and whatever trash heap intel is piecing together. Going with current intel gen seems like a guaranteed ride into remorseville.
Isaac Scott
>Going with current intel gen seems like a guaranteed ride into remorseville
You realize not everyone can wait to buy parts...right?
Sometimes you need a computer, waiting isn't possible.
Brandon Ortiz
Zen+ is a major improvement over Zen. I love my 2600.
Nathan Flores
>3-4 months before the launch of zen 2
Caleb Bailey
>wait the 3-4 months before the launch of zen 2
Why the fuck do you think a product that hasn't even been announced yet will be launched within 3-4 months?
If you're lucky, the January event will have a display of Rome chips, nothing super specific, no SKUs. A 2-3 months later Rome launches and Zen 2 gets detailed for consumers for launch in the summer.
Alexander Smith
84 degrees stock in blender on a 240mm radiator is bordering on GTX 480 level housefire.
Evan Powell
No one denies it isn't a hot chip.. Especially the 9900k, the 9700k fairs a bit better due to no Hyper threading.