[i was thinking of posting a good RX Vega 64 vs RTX 2080 Ti video link. but. uh. i couldn't find 1.]

strawpoll.me/17060083

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-64-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/3933vs4027

[i was thinking of posting a good RX Vega 64 vs RTX 2080 Ti video link. but. uh. i couldn't find 1.].

[also if you have any userbenchmark alternatives. that's cool too. too many eggs in 1 basket with that. if that fails. we got nothing.].

please respond.

thank you.

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i made this thread again because i intended to delete it after 30 minutes. and i want to do ti right this time. and i guess this is also for anyone that missed it before. hope you enjoy it.

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i mean before 30 minutes.

i mean before the 30-minute time-limit to delete posts ended.

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Where is the option for a $400 Vega 64?

There isn't one. I just put the price they were around. I may redo the thread without the prices. But I wanted to emphasize that RTX 2080 is more expensive than RX Vega 64. So maybe I'll just mention that in the new thread. Or put "~$500~" and "~$1500~" instead. Or something. Since so many people seem to care about it.

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Navi's not coming out for another year and even then cryptominers will buy out the stock or, at the very least, inflate prices.

Really? I heard that Nvidia made a lot for the crytpominers -- but the market wasn't there -- so they have too much stock. That is so I have heard.

They probably know there's cryptominers and will over-provision for them as needed either way now. It makes no sense for them not to. This time. Things will be different.

You mean Navi or Volta is coming out in 2019 right? Since there's only less than a month left of 2018 right now anyway.

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You have to understand mining fundamentals. Navi will halve electricity costs, which is the main operating cost for cryptomining. Imagine a GPU mining $2 a day but costing $1.90 in electricity. Your profit margin is $.10 a day. Halving your electricity increases that to $1.05 a day.

Full calendar year not just a silly change in the number. I'm talking 2019 Q4, if not 2020.

Crypto is so far down in the dumps that halving electricity costs won't get GPU mining anywhere near profitability anyway.

Oh. Well. I heard Nvidia made too many for cryptominers and there wasn't demand. Won't they make more GPU's so there's enough for cryptominers and mainstream users this time? A lot say the RTX 2080 is over-priced. But there clearly seems to be enough of it.

Damn. That takes a long time. Wow. Really? That's surprising. Considering RX Vega 64 came out in 2017. AMD having no answer in 2018 is disappointing. Hopefully they'll do better against Nvidia alike they're doing against intel sooner than later.

People are still mining even in the dumps.
Production capacity is limited by capital and long-term investment. Look at the current Intel CPU shortage for example.

Oh. That balances that out too. There's an Intel CPU shortage? I wonder why. I'm really out of the loop. You'd think AMD would be dominating Intel a lot more by now.

It's all a part of their business strategy. AMD tried going head to head with nvidia before and they got burned badly because gamer branding and loyalty. They've pretty much given up and put their GPU line on the backburner. All their focus is on server-grade CPUs, and by extension normal CPUs a bit later. That's slated for Q3 2019. There's no way in hell Navi is releasing before Ryzen 2.

So crypto-currency's price fell too much and it costs too much to mine to the point where it becomes unprofitable. That's disappointing. Or at least bitcoin apparently. Hopefully a clear bitcoin replacement will emerge.

Also having the people make their own currency and having the government attack the people because they want them to use their currency is bullshit, too.

Fuck government.

Power to the people, bitches.

... ... oh... ... ... ... ... oh... I see...

"gamer branding and loyalty" is retarded.

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Just like gamers. This is why nvidia won.

Gamers are retarded. We should punish them.

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