Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimum gaming, HTPC, web browsing (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 2700/X, i7 8700K, or i9 9900K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1050 3GB, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and Vega 56 are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >rentry.co/pcbg-more
Asking question from other thread. Did I get jewed by buying an i7 4470k off of eBay used for 160 ameribucks ? What kind of cooler should I buy? I also want to add 8 gb of ram what is best cheap ddr3
Brandon Foster
If you are willing to wait till April you could go for ryzen 3rd gen instead of second gen.
Brandon Garcia
>throws out a firm date like april despite the fact nothing has been confirmed yet and NO dates have been given at all.
wewlad, you sure do want AMDrones to be disappointed.
Hunter Harris
Depends on what you're using the PC for: 2700 is overkill for gaming. The performance difference between the 2600 and the 2700 is pretty small. Make sure you get 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 RAM Personally if I were buying a new monitor I'd get 144Hz VA with pseudo HDR like the MSI Optix. Not sure if its available in your area, but in mine it costs about 50% more than the monitor you have picked out, which in my currency is another $70
Henry Clark
They should be for sale sometime q2 and be announced in January. April is just what I have heard anyways if you take any rumors from g seriously you are a legit retard.
James Cox
Reposting from previous thread: I'm looking to buy a monitor for mainly gaming, watching anime and general use. My GPU is a GTX 1050 2 GB but I'd like to upgrade it in the near future. I'm completely fine with 1080p 60hz and I'd prefer it to have an IPS screen, can you give me any recommendations on what monitor to buy? My budget is about 150 usd but it can be a little flexible if needed.
Angel Taylor
>Did I get jewed by buying an i7 4470k off of eBay used for 160 ameribucks Not if you already had mobo and RAM. If you're trying to buy the whole platform, it's a questionable decision
If you're in the market for a new monitor, I'd get something nice because your monitor can be one of the longest lasting components of your build. That, or I'd get something super cheap that I could use as a second monitor later. IMO your two options are something like the MSI Optix or a $50 24" 1080p IPS monitor off craigslist
Hunter Brown
Should I bother attempting higher refresh rates at 1080p if I have a ryzen 2600, or should I wait until a future upgrade? I have the right RAM and so far I can pull off 144hz in Doom, and about 90fps in Destiny 2, so I get the feeling my rx470 is what needs an upgrade next. Would a better card along with a cheeky overclock get me past the threshold in more games?
Already own 1150 slot Mobo and too cheap to buy all new shit. Just need to be able to play games at 100+ fps. Gonna buy another 8gb stick of ram as well
Carson Fisher
Asking again since I got no response in the last thread. Is 60C at 50-60% load good for an r5 2600? I've overclocked it to 4.0 hgz at 1.275V. I'm happy with the system noise, both at idle and load. There are two 120mm noctua intake fans and a small-ish noctua d9l, which has a 92mm fan. Normally I would aim for mid 50's at a 50-80% load but that is with a non-OCed processor. Is even worth it to go for lower temperatures with Ryzen? As long as it doesn't reach max temps (95C), there should be no isues, correct?
With a high refresh monitor, your goal isn't to hit 144FPS in all games, and in fact most AAA games can't simply can't reach those framerates. Vsync is rarely used on a 144Hz monitor, and as long as you're under 144FPS on a 144Hz monitor, screen tearing is minimal.
Yes, a R5 2600 + RAM OC and a 1070/Ti is a good build for a 144Hz monitor
Caleb Diaz
Depends on your current RAM situation, but if you have 2x 4GB, buy another 2x 4GB of the same specs (speed and timing). If you've only got a single 8GB stick already, buy another 8GB stick of the same specs
>As long as it doesn't reach max temps (95C), there should be no isues, correct? Correct
Easton Foster
Fair enough, I'm just looking to get closer with some games other than DOOM. Now that I've experienced that at 120-144Hz its hard going back to 60Hz slideshows, but it looks like I won't have to with a stronger card. Thanks user.
Anthony Walker
>Correct No it's not. You are probably the same person spamming intel house fire memes but when ryzen runs hot it's fine.
Adam Russell
Having a hell of a time finding a micro ITX board that supports my old 4790k here in yurop. Any recommendations?
Your reading ability is probably at the kindergarten level. Try again
Jonathan Walker
>msi b450 tomahawk on sale for 70 bucks in my country should i pull the trigger bros? will it be good enough to run a r5 3600?
Alexander Cox
>year of our Lord Anno Domini 2019 in 11 days >still buying Intlel from the merchants
Colton Bennett
You'll have to find a way to update the BIOS, which probably requires a Ryzen 2000 CPU. 99% chance there will be a BIOS update, but it's not guaranteed. In general, don't buy components until you need them
Ethan Hernandez
Why that monitor? Rest seems fine I guess. 2600X > 2700 for gaming, though.
I'd start to think something is wrong if it's approaching 85C stock. It shouldn't get anywhere near the 95C thermal cutoff. 60C is reasonably cool, especially if that's the stock cooler. >Is even worth it to go for lower temperatures with Ryzen It's only really worth it with PBO, as PBO will only keep boosting more aggressively while it's kept under 57C or 67C, I forget which. With the way you've done your OC, it makes basically no difference except cooler will make for slightly, slightly lower voltage leakage.
Kevin Gonzalez
this mobo has the flashback button so you can update the bios without a cpu
Brody Morris
>i9 >overclock 200mhz >crashes why is this shit in the OP, same with its retarded corelet predecessor
>mfw my friend OC'd his 2600k to 5GHz in 2012 with closed loop water >mfw I got mine to 4.7GHz on air >mfw intlel is now selling this same performance as """progress""" 7 years later for the low low price of $700 If your still being cucked by Intel at this point you deserve it.
as opposed to buying shitty single core performance from AMD?
Sorry, but what other alternative is there?
Logan Harris
>Shitty single core perf It has a higher IPC than Intel when running cl14 ram >Single core perf mattering Shitty coded Gaymen need not apply faggot.
Angel Price
Not falling for the muh single core meme in 2019 is a good start
Ayden Howard
when is 3th gen ryzen
Jordan Nguyen
>same frequency across different cpus means same performance Nice falseflag idiot
Christopher Howard
I'm thinking on getting this motherboard, what the fuck there are 8 + 4 pins for the CPU, and the seasonic 550W PSU I plan on buying doesn't seem to have it. What the hell?
I'm an idiot and didn't capitalize on any of the BIG DEEP discounts on SSD's during Black Friday or Cyber Monday. But now, I want an SSD - simply for tossing games on. I have my OS on an SSD already.
Any recommendations for SSD's that give the best bang/buck? Looking for at least 750GB. I'm getting tired of moving the games I want to play from my 3TB HDD to my 256GB SSD, and vice versa upon completion.
>just spend the money you would have spent on intel on faster RAM
also, it still can't match the single core clock speed of intel, so who cares if it matches the IPC performance?
Xavier Ross
idk. Why don't you post a better OP?
Only Intel CPU which should be recommended, and only assuming an unlimited budget, is the 9700k. Intel's HT increases heat and power consumption more than it increases performance. It's shit.
Any considering a 9900k should be looking at Threadripper instead.
Nathan Murphy
Hey, looking to get my first build. This is what I have so far. I want to do office work and web browsing and super casual gaming (just wanna run some games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, smoothly, not looking for high end settings). Any comments or recommendations?
What's a good cheap way to get a modern monitor? Is there any problem with b-stock monitors on ebay? They always say that the packaging has been opened but it sounds like they work flawlessly.
Cameron Harris
Is $80-$125 really too much for you to get a decent new monitor..? You need to reevaluate things with your life if you can't afford that.
Brody Phillips
60fps 1080p TN will get you exactly what you want
Jose Bell
What's a good midcase with a glass side and a simple style, nothing with RGB or stuff like that
Grayson Young
Zen 2 16 core 5ghz+ DDR5 for 300$ launching at CES with new GPUs.
See if google's still running their 20 or 25% (if you use the APP) coupons, because you could score about 14-15 off before tax off this one. Samsung's 500GB SSD is a few bucks more, and Crucial has a m.2 version for about $78 as well.
750GB is a hard spot to hit, most are 240/250, 500/512, or 1TB. You just missed a deal last week for a 500GB m.2 for $48, and a 1TB for $110. Or a $99 Sandisk 1TB.
Lincoln Young
Having a hard time figuring out a monitor (or two) for my new build with a 1070 To and 2700X. I mostly play Dota 2 so a 1440p 144hz IPS (maybe even with G-Sync) seems ideal, but I also want to hook-up a PS4 to it and I've read that would look like shit, plus I need to use it for work occasionally which makes things even harder. Maybe I should go for one 1440p 60hz IPS and a second 1080p 144hz TN? SHOULD Should I keep them both at 24 inches? Mainly considering a U2518D for the 1440p one but have no idea about the other. I'm open to other suggestions as long as it doesn't go over €600.
Jaxson Gonzalez
>Or a $99 Sandisk 1TB.
Fuck me eh. Ah, I also didn't know that 750GB wasn't available for SSD's. Now that I know that, I would definitely want a 1TB SSD then.
Eli Bailey
They're very uncommon. I see intel ones for 700~GB, but those are ungodly priced and are literally 2-3x the price of a 1tb.
If you mostly just play one game which will run at 144fps fine, you don't need the Gsync. That Mbest 1440p 144hz AHVA one is always a good choice. Adaptive sync is more if you play a variety of games, since it WILL microstutter when the framerate is mismatched from the refresh rate.
Stop asking every thread, faggot.
>intel always cheaps out and charges people more for less product Hmmmm
Bentley Torres
>If you mostly just play one game which will run at 144fps fine, you don't need the Gsync. Wouldn't it be useful for the ones that don't run at framerates that high though? Playing Dota is the overwhelming majority of the time I spend with vidya, but I play almost everything else occasionally. Still, that might not be that big of a deal if I go for two monitors and decides to get a 1080p 144hz one.
Jack Lee
Stop asking and just buy it
Nathan Cooper
HEY NIGGERS is it based and redpilled to buy TWO STICKS of 970 pro 1tb? Or should I wait for the successor; 1070 pro or whatever
Easton Young
Gsync is goat desu, my 1070Ti may drop below 60fps sometimes at 1440p but it looks really smooth.
ALSO why is it $377 per stick in the States and $656 in my shithole? Do I dare get it through a friend, with no warranty?
Aaron Jackson
What monitor do you have?
Gavin Collins
Is there an easier way to import custom XMP profiles for Ram, rather than punching in the numers every time having to reset the bios because of having typed in a slightly different value? Asking for a friend
>Wouldn't it be useful for the ones that don't run at framerates that high though? No. 60fps on a 144hz panel looks much worse than on a 60hz panel. High refresh rate monitors are objectively worse for low refresh rate games. HOWEVER you can downclock the 144hz panel to 60hz, but it's a hassle to switch it around to match what you're playing. Unless you have Freesync/Gsync. Then it's fine.
retard
Mason Rogers
My z390 Gaming Edge has it too. My Evga 750w has a cpu1 and cpu2 slot, are you sure your psu doesn't have two cpu power slots? You only really need to give power to the 8pin but youll want the 4pin as well if you're overclocking and the cpu needs the extra power
There are no custom XMP profiles unless you reprogram your RAM sticks.
Entering the XMP numbers manually is just entering the timings manually. It's the same thing. It's all a matter of the mobo recognizing the XMP numbers properly or not.
There is no way, just right them down on paper. If your BIOS has profiles, save it to a profile. But clearing the CMOS might also reset your profiles. Resetting the settings in your BIOS without clearing the CMOS (assuming your BIOS has that option), should keep the stored profiles intact.
Paper notes are your best friend when dicking around in the BIOS.
Hunter Ward
Total waste. 8-pin is more than enough unless you're doing crazy sub-zero cooling.
Ian Phillips
Wait for AMD's response in six months to a year or start sucking cock on the corner to save up.
Austin Price
I can't wait until the whole world sees RGB LED aesthetic as the embarrassing fad it is and it goes away.
Parker Rogers
>semi-modular
Bentley Phillips
Maybe OP was just uninformed, but yeah 9900k shills should get the fucking bullet.
Brandon Rivera
Decent, but don't expect 2400g igpu to do miracles.
Ayden Baker
Actually had no idea about this, thank you for the information. Might stick to 60hz 1440p as a main monitor for the time being. Is there a go to monitor with those specs? The main ones I was considering besides the Dell U2518D are the BenQ GW2765HT and the Asus PB278QR.
Henry Gray
I already made my peace with the thought that i will have to pay up to 600 but since it's only another 100 for a 2080 i really don't know if i should just go for a big boy gpu instead of the 2070. It would also give me the headroom to go 1440p/144hz in the future.
Levi Jones
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Gavin Johnson
>$2000 budget >freesync monitor Congratulations, you fucked up
William Perez
>$2000 system >9600k user....
Henry Price
Yes. I've already done all of those things but those menus are fiddly and each mobo manufacturer has their own abbreviatons for which values are supposed to mean what. I've no wish to have to reset the bios time and time again just because I misunderstood what a certain value meant. Thanks for the tips, anyway, user!
Nolan Jones
I personally would've paid for a 9700k just to make the system more balanced.
Luke Ramirez
>pcpartpicker.com/ This site lets me pair any GPU to any old shitty motherboard. How do I limit my search only to parts that are compatible with it?
Yeah, I have the extremely rare microstutter. the cpu is the one think i almost regret, but it's still amazing. Still can't justify spending 60% more for the i7. It was a pretty good deal, and I haven't been convinced into buying the Gsync meme yet. My picture still looks smooth as hell without it as long as I'm above ~85fps which is over 95% of the time
Nicholas King
8700k was just around 300 not too long ago.
Anthony Bailey
Shame, I never saw it around those prices during my planning period. Oh well. Again, I have yet to experience any troubles often enough to make me actually wish I had an i7. I remember seeing that. To be fair that was the worst performing game in their tests. They couldn't find another game that had results even close to as poor as FC5.
William Nelson
IMO you only fucked up on the CPU. The rest is nice. You can't find 1080ti anyway, and while I'm a AMDrone, I reckon the vega 64 is not on par with the 2080 on most games.
Blake Smith
thankyou based Gamer's Nexus. I've also bought a freesync monitor (XF270HU) to be paired with a 1080ti. Why? Because the XF270HU was $599au and an equivalent G-Sync XB271HU is around $899au. Yes, I've seen first hand how smooth adaptive sync makes things, but that doesn't warrant a 50% increase in monitor price IMO. And fuck Novidia and their Goy-Sync tax.
Asher Ramirez
>I have yet to experience The thing is when i have a part that is performing sub-par i expect it to only get worse in the future, not better.
Logan Kelly
Yeah I agree. The CPU is definitely the low point of the build. My next upgrade will probably be in 3-4 years with something like a 9700k/2080ti in today's terms, along with gsync.
Ayden Morris
My point is that I disagree with the notion that it's subpar, at least as of right now. By the time more developers start making games optimized for multithreading I'll probably be looking to upgrade.
William Morris
An we expect any after-Christmas sales on par with Black Friday? I’m hoping for a cheap 2600 and 1080p gpu
John Smith
Vega is already quite competitive to the 2070.
>$2000 with a 9600k I really can't understand how anyone is possibly this stupid and easily mislead by "average fps"
Justin Ross
Cucked yourself on that one frend
Matthew Clark
>wow 6 cores at 5ghz for only 250 bucks >and it gets over 100fps on average that's how
micro stutter has been an important factor for the last 10 years.
Samuel Jones
Is MSI Armor good for RX580?
John Robinson
Fellas, a few days ago a friend convinced me to change the thermal paste on the GPU and like an idiot I did it. Under heavy use, it wouldn't go past 75 degrees. After changing the paste (grey goop with metallic particles). It now goes up to 95/100. Where did I fuck up? Every fucking video I see it about changing the paste everything goes so smooth, it's starting to drive me crazy.
Jack Bennett
When are christmas sales supposed to start? I haven't seen any yet.
Dylan Bailey
You can find a gsync monitor for $650 au. G-sync is like the best visual upgrade you can have, even if you get 100 fps average you cant avoid the microstutters and tearing when fps drops.
Nathan Lee
Hey /pcbg/! Your opinion on this build? I have the Motherboard already ( got it for half the price hehe)
