Hi! We're the Mozilla Corporation. We're the for-profit company that sells your data to our friends at Google.
> Wait, I thought Mozilla was non-profit!
Yes and no.
On paper what you know as Mozilla is actually two entities: the Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation. The Mozilla Corporation is fully for-profit. The Mozilla Foundation is technically non-profit.
We usually downplay the for-profit Mozilla and claim to be a non-profit. This helps us dodge taxes, and is useful PR. Suckers are also more likely to donate money when we say we're a non-profit.
> And you sell my data to Google?
Yes. Google is the default search engine and we push you into accepting Google search suggestions. Google pays us a lot of money for this.
> But I thought you cared about my privacy!
Haha. Just clever marketing I'm afraid. There are many privacy protecting features we don't implement because they don't help our bottom line (or hurt it). We were also quite happy to include DRM and other user-hostile features after our "non-profit" received some "donations" from Google.
> Well your probably still better than Google.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Our history proves we're quite happy to scrap features and applications when they stop being profitable, even when they still have large devoted user bases. Think Thunderbird and our old (more powerful) extensions.
Our politics are also a steaming pile of shit. So are we really any worse than Google? It's probably hard to say.
Some faggot will tell you that mozilla is still usable in 2018 lel.
Tyler Parker
you're*
Blake Thompson
>Chris Beard >no beard
Charles Lewis
Thanks for the heads up Mozilla!
Anthony Brown
>chairwoman
Nathaniel Lee
>only the last person is mildly involved in ff the actual software development lmao, these mooches are sucking up the donation funds with their grandeous salaries (for doing literally _nothing_) while at the same time killing mozilla. i wonder if they are getting a second paycheck from another company
Charles Phillips
Dont forget that Mozilla donated money to leftist RiseUp mail which you cant even try as its close invitation only shithole...
William Butler
IKR
Matthew Thompson
Thanks Mozilla team any alternative browsers you would recommend?
Oliver Turner
Shit bait
Nolan Miller
Reminder fucking Safari has better default privacy settings than Firefox.
Michael Williams
Outside of Firefox, is there any other mozilla product that are actually noteworthy?
Jace Rodriguez
Seamonkey, Thunderbird, Lightning, FirefoxOS
All killed or on life support for serving users not advertisers
So what do we use then?
Brayden King
thunderbird
Lucas Scott
I'd put my Dick on Denelle any day.
Carson Ward
nigga this is a non argument. Most of us jumped ship months ago. FF will be dead in a year or two.
Wyatt Miller
Jumped ship to what?
Isaiah Martinez
turboautists to icecat, the rest of us to vivaldi and brave
Christopher Sanchez
who cares if mozilla knows our porn history or email messages or browsing history, right guys?
Julian Gray
I trust based mozilla with my personal info. even have pocket setup with very sensitive personal info like social security and credit card numbers.
They also give money to riseup.net which helps help extremist left-wing groups like antifa.
I do a lot of experimenting and documentation work with Tor and so I use the Tor browser otherwise I would never use a Mozilla product.
Wyatt Gomez
This is sad
Juan Morgan
Defaults and technical barrier to entry aside, name *one* browser not forked off of Firefox that gives you the same or better level of control over your privacy and security that Firefox does. Name one... I'll wait.
Jack Ward
Also they support communists and violence against innocent people for no fucking reason.
Cameron Butler
Are you sure you're not equating "support" with "internal ideological takeover by militant minority"? The same thing that's happening to literally every other tech business in the world? Yet you wanna pin it all on Mozilla, because you saw a few blog posts from shills on Jow Forums about anti-meritocracy or some shit... Grow a fucking brain.
Adrian Reyes
Luckily Brave is getting there
Jacob Bell
Well they donated to RiseUp messaging thing while at the same time donating to other stuff (and they give a lot of donations). Also, AFAIK, they're not doing a continuous donations to them, it was a one time donation.
Christian Baker
not seriously: lynx, w3m, links2 (though these are fine for reading wikipedia, blogs, and other sites that don't require much interactivity)
I use Brave for my day to day browsing. It's not perfect but it works well enough and the Tor mode is OK for checking out/updating my own .onion sites though I never use it for serious work on Tor.
Lincoln Fisher
Firefox is the best brainlet Filter in existence.
Firefox default is as botnet as safari or chromium are.
Though Ff properly configured is the most anonymous browser possible aside from Tor (which also is based on Ff)
Elijah Scott
The Mozilla Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. The primary reason the Corporation exists is to negotiate search engine rankings with companies like Google and formerly Yahoo. The Foundation is the only part that accepts donations. The money the Corporation makes from deals with companies is basically donated to the Foundation and as a non-profit organization the donations have to be spent to further Mozilla's goals, they cannot be used to pay off executives or anything of the sort.
Colton James
>Brave Haven't been readin' the news much lately, have ya lad...
Isaiah Campbell
>believing FUD spread by Jow Forums
Noah Parker
Seamonkey and Thunderbird are very much alive. Mozilla has allowed the community to oversee their development and Mozilla provides developers to work on the security side. Thunderbird project was considered feature complete and there wasn't a real need for it to be on the same rapid release schedule that Firefox uses. Seamonkey has always been community developed.
By Lightning do you mean the Calender extension for Thunderbird because I think that's still alive as well.
>Mozilla has allowed the community to oversee their development and Mozilla provides developers to work on the security side. They should do this with Firefox.
Charles Richardson
>Chief R&D Officer That sounds like one of the least ridiculous titles as depicted, but what does R&D stand for? Rinse and dry?