Why would you go for Computer Science when literally all other scientific fields have programming in their curriculum anyways?
Seriously to take a different course.
That way you get the benefit of knowing something else that might be useful AND you get to learn how to program.
Because maybe I want a job?
Any good company would rather hire a physics graduate as their coder rather than computer science graduate.
i was thinking the same shit. i want to program as a job but want to getting a mathematics or engineering degree.
ECE stronk
when people have finished their master's degree they are better than the CS or SE guys anyway lmao
What is ECE?
I wouldn't. I got a B. A. in Accountancy and a J. D.
Good luck competing with literally a billion pajeets and another billion chinks, kid.
Evidence?
Is this bait? The programming that one would learn in EE or physics for example is very shallow compared to a CS degree. Also nobody worth their shit is going to hire someone who learned matlab for a semester as a real software engineer.
There was a thread yesterday debunking this. Some Phd Physics fag couldn't even find a job.
>needing someone to hold your hand in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars
The state of things.
>Why would you go for Mathematics when literally all other scientific fields have calc 1 in their curriculum anyways?
>Why would you go for Physics when literally all other scientific fields have mechanics 1 in their curriculum anyways?
No one would hire a CompSci grad as a software engineer just because he knows LISP and read SICP either, faggot. CS is too academic, the software industry is really interested in Information Systems grads. Stay mad.
Also all the EE majors that I've talked to think they're great programmers, having taken a single class on C programming. They were all completely clueless about anything other than reading from stdin and multiplying integers.
>Why go into X when all fields have entry level class of X in their curriculum anyways?
>C
They still teach that shit? Isn't it like 2018 now?
you're probably a faggot who uses electron JS
codemonkey cope
>web dev, the post
Yeah, my uni isn't complete garbage. We do assembly, C, and C++. Then functional stuff and python in the upper level classes.
terry was a EE major made his own compiler and OS ehh
>neet projecting because he couldn't pass an entry level data structures class
I didn't need a class to learn data structures because I am not a brainlet. I studied math and got a job as a developer. it's easy as fuck, CS is a joke lol.
So not a single employable, real world language, like Java, C# or JavaScript? Damn, must suck!
I'm glad you found a way to feel superior despite sticking to outdated, buffer overflow-prone 70's technology, user.
Nobody wants a 'scientist' who only writes spaghetti in Matlab, R, and some other proprietary WIndows shitware they use to do their 'hard math' of plugging basic differential equations and integrals into a solver.
.t Has never written any substantial software.
.t Can't read a computer science textbook without putting it down 5 minutes later.
.t Comes on Jow Forums to vent his anger.
>projection: the $_POST
>.t
What if I made a game in Unity? Good idea?
Because there are more computer fields that aren't programming?
>Has never written any substantial software.
You're right, because I'm not a CompSci code monkey. I'm a software engineer. I focus on the process, bucko.
>Can't read a computer science textbook without putting it down 5 minutes later
Why would I even attempt to? I don't need that, I'm a team lead. I'd much rather read about SCRUM.
>Comes on Jow Forums to vent his anger
If by "vent my anger" you mean "laugh at you", then sure.
Computers grow on fields?
what? software engineers don't write substantial software?
>T. math brainlet.
Math is almost as much of a meme degree as CS. Anything besides Engineering is a joke.
>Engineering
That's not how you spell Business, user.
This is completely false. My company hired a Math major right out of college that "knew how to program" and they were behind on so much basic shit compared to the computer science graduates.
Anyone going to school for business is an idiot. You can learn all of that shit by just googling. The only reason business school could be good is for networking.
I double majored in EE and applied math. I don't like to mention the fact that I got two patrician degrees, I feel like I am bragging when I do that.
>tfw third year manager at big four company
>six digits salary
>travel extensively with everything paid for
>massive bonuses
>onto become a partner within the year
Feels Goodman.
Major at business then become a CPA, faggot. You can thank me later.
CPA is the easiest shit in the world. Will be totally automated within a few years by the pajeet army's.
>sample size = 1
>people lie about their skills on their resume
really makes you think
I knew a math major who said he could run circles around CS when it came to programming and all he could do was basic text book exercises.
Engineers only learn basic math, it is a joke really. The only thing engineers really have is a massive superiority complex. I don't think there is a major with more douchey faggots except for Philosophy and """""""pre med""""""".
As a hiring manager, the computer science majors are almost always better programmers then any other majors.
Computer Science isn't just programming, but then again, OP is just a stupid teenager that should fuck of back to 9gag instead of babbling shit like a retard
>CPA is the easiest shit in the world
And yet, most of my colleagues from back when I was a senior failed to pass that shit.
>Will be totally automated within a few years
What do you mean "will be"? It already is automated! You haven't seen my spreadsheets chock-full of VBA macros!
Ok this is very true. I was at the library studying one time and this girl behind me would not stop telling people how she was premed. We were there for a couple hours and it was just non stop how she was premed. Also a friend of mine said his classmate said his philosophy degree was probably the hardest in the world and anyone not philosophy is a complete brainlet.
Bullshit. Everytime there's a new applicant with a physics or math degree who claims he can program, we start rolling our eyes. Most of the time they only know the basics like loops and if clauses and their biggest project was programming a calculator.
Throw them into a serious project and they're completely lost and resources need to be spent to teach them so they can be slightly productive.
computer science is literally all programming dude. What the fuck else do you think it is???
What projects should we be doing?
Most CS majors I've met weren't particularly great at programming. They vaguely knew some shit about algebra, sorting algorithms, trees, graphs, and complexity, and could solve medium difficulty problems in a couple of programming languages, but none of them had useful real-world skills like XML, ORM, web services, design patterns, etc.
this, engineers always think they are smarter than they really are.
Is engineering really that hard? I know an engineer and he isn't particularly the brightest person. Seems like a lot of math but is probably doable if one puts the effort in.
I feel really bad for many 'pre' majors too. For philosophy if you don't get into a good law school you are fucked, for pre med if you don't get into a good medical school you are beyond fucked. At least with engineering/CS you can get a job out of undergrad.
Their math is basically all computations, which is algorithmic and one can pick up reasonaby easily with a little good will. But there's no challenging logic problems like proving theorems and pic related kind of shit.
And why would it be any other way? Any good computer science curriculum teaches you about computers, computation, and programming fundamentals; also putting aside that many computer science students were hacking away at their computers since age 12, then is it any surprise that a physicist or a mechanical engineer would not be as good? I truly wonder if at times people on Jow Forums and on /sci/ have even developed software, or at the very least delved into computer science concepts? You need experience first and foremost. How are you going to write me an application running in Ring0 on Windows, if you have no idea of operating system concepts, of Windows internals, of how to write safe C, of anything. You will not. Expertise in Real Analysis will not help you here. Expertise in Real Analysis only shows that you have the maturity to learn complex topics.
Really, no degree/liberal arts degrees is less of a red flag than the generic non-CS/EE stem degree, The former usually won't bother to apply if they don't actually know how to program, while the latter often have this whole 'it's all science so that one class where I wrote an ios calculator should be plenty' attitude
Where do people get this meme from? Math I could see, especially if you have projects, but physics? And why would someone who has a physics degree apply for software development jobs in the first place? Makes no sense
Hiring "quants" was a big fintech meme about 10 years ago.
Good luck running any of those on a microcontroller, robot, or HPC cluster
>>C
>They still teach that shit? Isn't it like 2018 now?
Embedded systems normally have a choice between c or native assembler for the chipset. Its a bit silly to port a python interpreter to a 2kb uC.
>fringe corner cases that add up to like 1% of all programming in the world
Okay.
I think you'll find there are a lot more embedded systems than PCs and servers.
Look at car ECUs, industrial control systems, the components within your PCs (BIOS / peripherals), set top boxes, remotes etc.
You would be hard pressed to describe it as fringe.
wpi?
electrical and computer engineering
not familiar with that acronym
Computer Science isn't programming
What is it then?
Anime girls and traps?
Hell, why go to school at all when all the resource is on the Internet?
If you've think this, you're probably not a CS student. If you are, get you need to pay more attention in class or get your refund back because your getting scammed.
It's problem solving through computers. Programming is heavily involved, but so is discrete mathematics.
CS = Java Code Monkey
Statistics > Physics > Economics > Math = Data science Pythonistas
(protip: data scientists make more than code monkeys)
EE's typically have to learn assembly, c or c++, and vhdl or verilog too.
Lots of EEs end up learning python or java out of necessity too.
Hell, at my old office we had this middle aged EE control engineer dude, who had only learned C, ASM and VHDL during his university years, and he was making android and web applications.
Funny how you don't hear about non-meme degree holders complaining about getting replaced by Pajeet like CSfags do.
He is probably a web dev brainlet, don't expect him to understand what an embedded system is.
digital physics > computer science
This is complete bullshit, because my company had to hire me because the titular physicist would write his research algorithm only in shitty Python that would run in 40 seconds, when my multithreaded Sepples implementation would only take 600 ms.
Doesn't work with a=1, b=1 and k=2.
Yeah, I changed majors a bit ago and IT has better coding courses than cs. It is also half the price now so It is better in everyway.
I've seen enough scientist code to know that i don't want them anywhere near my codebase.
Because I want to be a committer to Linux and work at Apple on the Darwin kernel.
What do you guys think about statistics? It has a lot of programming involved.
If a and b are 1, then k has to also be 1 (2/2) which is.
Nevermind, I'm fucking tired.
>It is also half the price
your school has different prices per major?
Reminder.
your point being?
also
>implying you can't make a drone out of clay
Because the knowledge you get from a university degree is worthless compared to someone who studies on their own.
You can learn anything on your own. University is just to give you a direction. Where you actually focus is your own choice. You can be a CS graduate who knows better math than your average mathematician, or a mathematician who knows better programming than a CS graduate.
because CS students learn next to nothing about algorithms, while people on other scientific fields, except for math, learn precisely nothing.
The reason nobody values modern liberal arts/humanities degrees is because they're watered down with retards (which is a shame because they are actually valuable). Ditch your niggerliscious socialism and you can probably out earn the average code monkey, even as a liberal arts faggot. The only people who complain about capitalism are losers who are too pussy or useless to contribute to society.
>he can't make a drone out of clay
This is why you're not making 6 figures. Lack of imagination.
wow its almost like valued things are valued because they have value
>he posts on twitter, not realizing the irony
Tfw your job can be replaced by a $50 website
Ceramists afaik is a sub field of metallurgy, which is very difficult and very well paid.
Thats what they meant by "ceramics major" right?
Lmao in your dreams, go back to coping on /sci/.
>Pajeet, the post
Real CPAs are some of the best mathematicians in the business and find complex ways to make the numbers work. Most math majors couldn't hold a CPAs jock sweat.
Auditing Fortune 500 public companies and tax accounting are two completely different and unrelated things, user.