Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and Vega 56 are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
My dads computer died and I need something to replace it on the cheap. It was a Athlon X2 with 2GB of DDR.
I have a case, PSU, GPU, HDD, and 2GB of DDR2 I could salvage. I dont have spare components to test what died (suspect its a corrupted BIOS) so I would rather just buy a new CPU/Board combo (and possibly different RAM if necessary).
What would be the best CPU/board combination to look for on the second hand market that would be suitable for running windows 7 and Firefox? That is literally all my dad uses the computer for which is why I would rather not spend a lot.
Daniel Lee
Nvidia moved to supporting Freesync because everyone else supports it and poorfags can now buy low and midrange Nvidia cards without needing to pay G-Sync tax.
In the end AMD gets rekt, you don't need to buy a crappy AMD card anymore and you get to keep your monitor.
Ryder White
Suck my fucking dick Newegg
Ryan Allen
It doesn't make a 1060 any less pointless for its current price.
Nathan Carter
resident AMD peddler on suicide watch ayyy
Camden Young
works in my state
Isaac Barnes
>Literal week-long processing times >30 miles away from their warehouse yet they can't get anything to me in under 10ish days
Easton Sanders
Can I complement my 8Gb single RAM stick two dual channel 4Gb sticks? Does this not even work or is it just a bad idea in general from a cost/performance perspective? Is there any motherboard specification that allows this. Or am I just better off selling my current 8Gb RAM and getting two new 8Gb ones
Jacob Turner
Hi lads. Im looking to buy new ultrawide monitor for gaming(i have one for work, moved it to office) so need new one for home. So basic recs >1440p at least,100hz at least and gsync (Saw that gsync will also work on freensync monitors, but support list is short af) >videocard I use 1080 Ti >budget Around £800
Samuel Roberts
if you can buy a matching 8gb stick of ram that would probably work best.
James Baker
Some c2duo or c2quad
Jason Edwards
>400 tested >12 passed WHY
Ryder Morris
775?
Jack Diaz
Just get a working low end used one off of your website of preference from someone who is upgrading. Anything onboard with 4Gb DDR3 and a dual core 2.w/e will do
Jaxson Jackson
Because monitor and penals are simply shit there's no truly good screen out there and qc is terrible all across the board.
Jack Campbell
My problem is exactly finding this very same one. I'm only finding suspicious used ones. Local Stores are out of stock on it ( I live in a 3rd world shithole)
Isaac Thompson
fair enough. remember, don't bother with ram with heatsinks if you're not overclocking. DRAM runs fine with a bit of cooler airflow from the cpu
Charles Smith
I have an ATX case that has a pretty awful design. Allows for two frontal 120mm fans but only one can actually be installed without it being blocked by cables and such. It's this one in particular.
Anyways, I was looking for ways to improve airflow even if the case isn't all that great. Would it be worth removing the hard drive cage and using some sort of brackets to install the hard drive at the top, where CD/DVD drives are supposed to be installed?
I'm concerned that I'm getting the same temperatures with -and- without the frontal fan installed, which tells me that either that fan is absolute shit (I checked and it is working, though), there's no point on using it at all or it's not doing its job at all because it's being blocked by the fucking cage.
David Wilson
Digital foundry: >RTX 2060 is faster than Vega 56 in 10 of 11 games tested
Interesting. For $350 + adaptive sync support I guess Nvidia are going after those potential Vega buyers.
Are two 200mm fans on a 360 radiator fine or do I need 3 120mm ones? Front case has them positioned directly on the radiator. Just a tiny piece isn't fully covered by them.
So Zen2 is not going to be announced on CES and there will be only mobile CPUs? Shit.
>!!CES Jan. 8 - 11. Strong advisory to buy after CES announcements!! I cancelled my order because of this, and now prices are higher than before.
Chase Cooper
What's the best manufacturer for B450 motherboards? Price range is 120$ max. I was thinking of MSI B450 gaming plus.
Asher Phillips
>that mobo >purchased It's already over
Leo Mitchell
yes, go to pcpp and redo this list (hint: your cpu and you mobo don't really match)
Thomas Stewart
>another victim of the amd shilling classic
Blake Perez
what the fuck same here. rtx 2060 seems like an actually decent card, even with the raised price. leave it to amdrones to shit on if for any reason though.
Austin Wood
What's a good AM3+ motherboard still being sold today?
Charles Butler
Wtf, at least make the prices go down in Russia, reeee.
Eli Baker
I thought when I saw those rtx 2070/80 and I was like "nah they just a little faster 1080/ti with gigameme, I guess 2060 has the same performance as 1070 or a bit more"
And then they memed us with a 1080 performance, a little close to 2070 in some cases according to digital foundary. Wow.
same, i was thinking 'rtx 2060 will be twice as expensive and probably barely better' and look at this shit. i waited YEARS before building a pc and i could've waited few extra months for like 40% better performance. oh well i guess shit moves forward and you can't predict this, though maybe i should be kicking myself for buying pascal so long after its release.
Brayden Butler
What is the estimated cost of the 2060?
Joseph Gomez
$350
Austin Bennett
Prob the worst purchase of my entire PC career but oh well, maybe it can hold up a few years more but until then I'm gonna actually be a amdrone now lmaoa and maybe looking for amd options
Stay cucked faggot and keep buying nvidia. I hope nvidia fucks you in the ass as hard as possible. You deserve it.
Dylan Richardson
The 1060 provided gtx 980-like performance for $250.
Connor Butler
t. buttblasted amdrone how's your housefire gpu?
Chase Taylor
You have no idea how happy I am nvidia is fucking you in the ass.
Daniel Fisher
It's actually a 1080 performance according to some reviewers, but still gonna wait for more benchmark tests
Carter Brooks
>being this mad
Robert Thompson
What if I want more than 2 slots for RAM? Any good ATX mobo?
Christian James
MSI B450 A-Pro or Tomahawk. They are the same board but Tomahawk has gaymer looks.
Owen Turner
>he's both figuratively and literally butthurt
Liam Ross
What's with the widespread shortage of custom RTX 2080 TIs? I'm trying to avoid the founder's edition failure rate issues but I can't find a decent EVGA or gigabyte (ideally triple fan) RTX 2080 ti for the life of me.
Also, I'm planning on running this with the i9-9900k. I'm aware that they run hot so I'll try to pair it with a Noctua D15 cooler. Will this offset the temperature problem?
>buys K cpu also buys absolute trash mobo with VRM that will overheat on stockclock when he could have invested like 20-30$ more and get a z390 which would have done the job perfectly and even have enough headroom for OC
get the Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X or if you are a cheap monkey Gigabyte Z390 UD they have the best VRMs for mobos that are affordable.
>trash AiO
if you have to buy into the AiO meme get a Krakken or a corsair one...
>3600mhz meme
get 3200 with good timings
>cheaps out on the most important part of your whole pc with a random noname trash PSU
you either buy a evga or a seasonic psu and get 600W-650W, because full load gonna pull 500w if not a bit more don't go lower than gold cert.
>blower style gpu
just neck yourself for buying blowerstyle... buy an aftermarket cooler for it because it gonna heat throttle like a motherfucker
all in all one of the worst build I ever witnessed
>tfw on top of image specs, quality, performance and general quality control you also have to research if a monitor does or does not work with an nvidia gpu >and if so, how well it will also work with a nvidia gpu
I motherfucking called this a week ago, 2019 will be a headache for monitor purchase.
>being so poor you have to worry about such things
Ian Ramirez
>g-sync tax costs up to €500 extra on some models compared to the freesync model
You don't get rich by being stupid.
Carter Russell
Brother wants to get into 3d Printing, what kind of horsepower is needed to run the software? Budget would probably be under 500 dollars for the PC
Henry Young
>AMD do free stuff >Wow, nice job nvidea using a standard
Carson James
Just picked up a very lightly used mini-itx with 1070, msi z370i carbon ac, 8gb 2400 vengeance, i7 8700, evga 430w, corsair watercooler, and two ssd’s for $800 usd. Its performing quite well for my tastes (mostly bought for streaming and possibly to bring my Siemens NX work home with me) Here is my bench test, already ordered another stick of matching ram, and running on a 4k LG monitor. Any ideas where to go from here? Did I even do well? Keeping in mind that I am VERY cheap when it comes to these things. (Posting from my phone hence the pic of screen)
1070tis were on sale over holiday for MSRP 2060 prices. If you think these cards are coming out at MSRP you're delusional. This is a $400+ card unless you snag a reference model from nvidia's website.
Isaiah Roberts
Is 4K vidya a meme right now?
>decent monitor is another 500 shekels >Even the money blackhole 2080 TI can't hit 60 fps in every game
Chase Green
I paid $550 for a used macbook pro 2012 non retina with an i7 and 650m 4 years ago that runs everything up to Fusion just fine. Slicing can take a while but overall what I’m saying is that basically anything nowadays can build a print just fine.
Logan Cox
>MSRP says $350 This is gonna be over €500 in europe, isn't it?
Not necessarily a meme, but as you said it's a money black hole. I mean of course every benchmark you see is done on ultra and dropping some settings will get you what you want. But who the fuck is willing to spend $1000+ on a card and then compromise?
Robert Morris
pls respond
Benjamin Diaz
Less than before.
People who say you can't run 4K at 60fps typically use the latest AAA cinema game with maxed out settings as an example. Which is a load of bull, you don't need to compensate for the low amount of pixel density with equally much anti-aliasing anymore, and some settings are very taxing on your system and only brings one tenth of visual improvement compared to core settings. Personally I think framerate and resolution gives better visual quality compared to meme settings in games.
It was worse before when we didn't have good gaming adapted monitors in 4K and the hardware was just enough to hit high fps in 1440p. Now we have good monitors available as well as the hardware to back it up. The only issue is the price, but you are paying for premium quality so its not entirely illogical.
I think the only meme around right now is that you should buy the 2080ti because its a good "investment", considering that it might take nvidia three or four years before they release something that beats it and thus you will put it through good use.
Grayson Hughes
The Gaming Plus probably has a better overclocking capability. Look for yourself.
Leo Lopez
Gaming has fatter heatsinks for its VRM and chipset. A-pro has a VGA port
They are basically the same board.
Ayden Davis
I can get a Gigabyte 1070 for 375 eurobux instead of 470, should I? Or is it true that Nvidia gimps older cards to push the newer gen models? Current card is a Sapphire 380X.
Kevin Martin
Used or new?
Jack Campbell
new
Lincoln Kelly
>my top of the line gpu, 780ti, cost €500 4 years ago Why the fuck are GPUs so expensive now a days?
They usually don't give older generations optimizing drivers that will "improve" the performance in certain games. But that typically involves a limited number of new aa or aaa games that were badly optimized from the start.
Can't tell if its a good deal where you live but buying a 1070 today isn't to bad.
Diminishing returns in technological development. And nvidia milking the market as well. Expect everything to cost more in the future if you want more power.
You will have to research that yourself.
Jeremiah Powell
Check ebay I think you’ll find one there easily. As for the 9900k cooling solution, I spent less than $50 on a scythe fuma and got up to 5.1ghz with healthy temps.
Nathaniel Turner
Well for one thing some of them are being discontinued.
Zachary Ward
>crappy AMD card AMD kills NVIDIA at the mainstream $250 and below price range. I have a 1070 so you can't call me a shill.
Dylan Bailey
Why the fuck can't I find a 4 slot 1150 mobo, I'm literally going crazy.
Juan Collins
You can buy a 1070 Mini for 299€, sell Fortnite for 40€ and be a Happy FHD man. In Germany at least.
Adam Evans
If I don't buy ripjaws RAM, which one should I go for? It's out of stock until the end of the month.
