How do I get inside the rabbit hole of privacy?

Whats stopping the bum from ratting you out to whom ever offers him cash next? Also how can you trust the bum to actually go in and pay for the debt card? Not to mention you'd have to pay the bum in some undisclosed location without cameras.

Not completely pointless
Their enterprise offerings do have (and have to comply with if they want to keep any of their business customers) better privacy policy and at least don't use the data for advertising

all of you are bakas
Just read this:
privacytools.io/

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it's the bum's word agains yours if he tells someone
give him half the money before and half after buying sim card

oh and how do you keep your IP hidden from the VPN provider? Use tor to go through the VPN? seems kinda pointless. Even then we can't know for sure that the vpn isn't logging. Lavabit was pressured because snowden was using it. How can we be sure the VPN won't go that route if they are pressured?

>no logging policy.
VPNs still log your IP once you hit there site and connect to the service. how can you even trust that they are telling the truth in the first place?

tor->vps->private vpn

everytime you connect to a vpn you have to be on the tor network?

>Even then we can't know for sure that the vpn isn't logging.
No, you can't. But consider this: Your ISP is definitely untrustworthy. In a lot of areas you have one monopoly provider, who doesn't have to care. Even if you have a choice of providers, they seldom compete on privacy. A VPN service might be untrustworthy, but there are a lot of them, and it's pretty easy to switch from one to another. They most definitely do compete on privacy - it's a big selling point when one of them gets a subpoena and gets to go to public court and say "We can't provide the requested information, since we don't hold any of it". A VPN service will get lots of attention and customers from that, an ISP won't. It's easy to use a VPN service located in a different jurisdiction than you, which you can't do with an ISP. Cross-jurisdiction legal proceedings are an expensive pain - if a copyright troll in the US wants to send an extortion letter to a torrenter, but the IP address is in Asia and belongs to a company in the EU, and who knows where the actual user is, they might well just give up because it would cost more in billable hours than they'd ever be likely to get from the settlement demand. And lastly VPNs provide some of the safety in numbers that Tor does. A hundred people connected to the same VPN server as you is a hundred other people who appear to the rest of the internet to be coming from the same IP as you. As compared to an ISP that gives you one unique IP and most definitely keeps DHCP logs of who had which one at any given time.

VPNs are not a perfect thing where they magically make you totally anonymous to everything everywhere. But they're a big improvement over nothing. Stop thinking that security and privacy must be 110% perfect to be worthwhile. You don't have to be mathematically impossible to trace. You just have to be hard enough to outstrip your adversary's resources.

>Stop thinking that security and privacy must be 110% perfect
all i know is that if they really want your information they will take it regardless of how much time and effort it will take.

And you're thinking overly simplistically about it. There's a cost to "them" if they want to track you down. And there's a lot of other people they're also interested in. Yes, if the whole resources of the NSA, all those billions of dollars and tens of thousands of people, were bent towards you specifically, you would have a pretty difficult time. But are you ever gonna be a "drop everything and find this guy" priority? For anyone? (Remember that bin Laden sure was, and it took them over a decade to find the bastard)

Governments and a lot of private corporations will be happy to track you if it's easy and cheap to do so. But once you start getting rid of the cheap, massively-scalable, collect-it-all dragnet collection strategies, and force people to actually devote individual time and attention to you, you force them to prioritize. And you're never going to be the only priority.

Thus, in practice, it's easier for you to hide than for them to find you, even if its possible for them to do so.

its a good point but I have a hard time trusting anyone.

Nice joke.
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> W10
>having this mental disorder