Would have Nazi engineers been able to reverse engineer the F-16 falcon and win the war?

would have Nazi engineers been able to reverse engineer the F-16 falcon and win the war?

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>jet-powered aircraft
>country known for losing a war due to a lack of fuel

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probably not
even if they did the only point it would have helped was the battle of britain

they could have learned a lot from the hydraulics and shit

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they wouldnt be able to reproduce the electronics / computer parts

is this a thread from a alternate timeline?

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The swastikas were actually taken from some church pews IIRC. So you're not getting any of those ancient indian alien powers

The turbine blades would have been impossible to manufacture with 1940s metallurgy

The airframe is inherently unstable for maneuverability reasons and can only remain airborne under computer control

The weapons and navigation would be almost useless without GPS and AWACS

>what is the Me Swallow

No it needs computers and materials they couldn't manufacture in the WW2 timeframe.

Underrated

Why would the people who invented jet aircraft need to reverse engineer a jet aircraft?
Besides the Nazis didnt need another air superiority fighter, they needed long range high capacity bombers a la the lancaster or b-17

it would be hard for them to understand the computers or learn how to reproduce them

they needed to spawn soldiers and resources. they already had far superior aircraft.

nay, hans would put diesel into it and proceed to crash it

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PAVEWAY

>they needed long range high capacity bombers a la the lancaster or b-17
Which is why they had neither.
Hitler was so obsessed by Allied bombers he ordered that every new aircraft should have bombing capabilities.
It came late in the Me-262's development so the new requirement meant long delays. The Me-262 arrived too late to be of much impact.

>Besides the Nazis didnt need another air superiority fighter, they needed long range high capacity bombers a la the lancaster or b-17
Most of all they needed pilots and fuel and they weren't getting either.

This is a question to be asking/k/. The answer is no, though. Winning world war 2 as Germany is impossible without complete alternate history. No 1 thing as small as a certain small arm being brought back or anything would have saved Germany.

>geting bombed to mum fuck and back
>hurr durr we need more bombers

No, they were lacking rare earth alloys even for the rather crude ME-262 engines so they had to service them every 8 hours and replace much of the inside due to high temperature corrosion. They used the alloys they had way out of spec.

they wouldnt have been able to reverse engineer modern electronics . maybe if they got a mig21 like the israelis did

hell no. they were limited by the technology (metallurgy, lack of computers) at the time. getting an F16 wouldn't magically solve it

still, metallurgical problem.

>1970s plane in 1940

No they defiantly took inspiration from India. Aryans were one of the early tribes from the near east and settled in the northern Indus valley and established the Vedic religion eventually become Hinduism.

The engines on the Me 262 weighed 2000 lbs and only put out 2000 lbs of thrust. The lack of strategic metals meant that they could not build an engine more poweful than that without being too heavy to allow the plane to get off the ground. So even if you gave the germans the blueprints to the F-16 they still wouldnt be able to build an engine anywhere near the same thrust in that weight class

Simply impossible. They could learn a bit more about aerodynamics, but they couldn't really do anything with the engine, electronics, or weapons.

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depending on what block they got they could learn about radar too
and lets not forget the gun

Although the F-16 uses the M61, the Nazis already came up with the precursor to the next best thing, the M39: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_MG_213

well, thank you sir for sharing this information with me

Funny how f16 uses the slats technology 100 years old, but ofc modern variant

It wasn't 100 years old back then.

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No.

What if someone went back in time and gave them a Korean war era jet like the Mig 15 Fagot, F86 Sabre, or Hawker Hunter?

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What exactly do you think those were based on, user?

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>like the Mig 15, Fagot
what did you call me?

They couldn't even win the war with the Tesseract.

unless they can learn to conjure millions of tons of fuel too they would have 0.0% chance to win the war even with nukes

>Winning world war 2 as Germany is impossible without complete alternate history.

If Hitler had not declared war on Murka after Pearl Harbor and just left the Japs as a piece of meat for the Murkans to chew on he would have had a real shot at winning.

Germany should have gone full war economy in 1939 instead of 1943. No time for civilian luxuries when the future of the White Race is at stake.

They should have been less hostile to Slavics. (Come on, watch a Bolshoi ballet and tell me those people aren't White.)

Mussolini should have immediately taken Malta at the start of the war. Situated at the perfect fulcrum point between Axis and Allied logistics (fuel). Malta would have been worth the loss of every battleship in the Reglia Marina and Guadalcanal level casualties, as properly followed up, it would have lead to the Mediteranean becoming an Axis lake and the B'nai Brithtish running out of shekels and forced to sue for peace. As it was, Churchill had to steal food from India resulting in the starvation (most painful death) of six million Hindoos.

The V2 ballistic missile project should have been cancelled as it actually cost more than the Manhattan project(!) resulting in only minor casualties on the Bongistanis. The saved money could have been used for anything else but especially to develop a new secret code to replace the cracked Enigma. (V1 project left to continue as normal as it was very cheap and in addition to doing decent damage also tied up UK's best planes, Mosquito and Comet, to intercept these flying bombs).

Germany should have exported National Socialism to other nations in much the same way as Comjewnism did. They should have prepared regime change packages so countries like Niggeria could go Fash and help out.

Hitler should have issued an executive order changing the national sport of Germany from football (games were held even in the final weeks of the war) to handegg. This would have gone a long way toward placating the Burgers.

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Nope, Germany had no choice but to declare war on the US after the embargo, and had no chance to win against the US+USSR. They couldn't have won against USSR alone.

swastika in some form is a common symbol all over europe

swastika is common everywhere there has been pens or something to carve, it's just a doodle

>METALLURGY
Metallurgy!

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show me the Australian abo swastika cunt

Just to be clear to OP's question, this means no.

And to be more accurate it is not just metallurgy but material science in general.

Yes, if an F16 want transported back in time and handed to either the Allies or the Nazi, they'd both have been able to reverse engineer it - probably not 1:1 but close enough to win the war.
They'd also have been able to use it as a base for massive technological improvements for other craft.

If reverse engineering means you can duplicate the tech then, no they could not.

Show me some Abbo art that isn't dots and swirls mate.

no they couldnt
there's a whole chain of technologies not yet invented required to built the parts of a modern aircraft that wouldn't be capable of being developed in a few years

You wildly underestimate the engineering prowess of 1935-1945.

What the Nazi germany needed was a capitalist engine, kinda like china have hong kong and taiwan.
Stealing the resources of other countries is just not very efficient.

time periods dont have engineering prowess

nazi germany was 'captialist', but after they started trying to take over the world they couldn't exactly trade with everyone

You're an actual idiot, good night.

No.

MIT today can not reverse your laptop's CPU from scratch.

ULA/Blue Origins have had problems in the recent past getting good engines equal to the Russian counterparts despite having the blue prints to them.

Russia and China still have problems with stealth, more than two decades after the Serbs shutdown the F117.


They would get no where close to duplicating most of the essential technologies of the F16.

Although some aeronautic advances would be made surrounding shape. Delta, lift bodies, turbine jets, things like that.

and you don't understand how science works

Furthermore a lot of tech, even if you could reverse engineer it, would be without context if you only had a single aircraft.

Like Link 16.

>They couldn't have won against USSR alone.

Lol, Kruchev's memoirs recall Stalin admitting the USSR would have fallen if it hadn't been for lend lease aid from Murka.

USSR vs Germany alone means that Luftwaffe maintains air superiority over Russia from start to finish. (no drainage of planes/pilots from having fend off US/UK attacks from the west)
German navy would be blockading and shelling every Russian port city. (as it is they managed to bottle up most Russian warships in their harbors).
No interference in North Africa means Germany could pump oil from whichever sand nig countries are not already owned by Britain.

Chavs and Gopniks together would present a difficult but doable challenge for Germany, given some luck. The windfall of shekels from cancelling V-2 (more expensive than Manhattan Project!) would allow the Reich to pay off reneged loans to USA and take out new loans, as well as bribe officials and media/academia. Recall that Yankeedom is a merchant culture whose friendship can be bought, otherwise the Chinks would not own half the real estate in all the major cities on the Left Coast right now.

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Maybe the parts, but I doubt they could just look at the fuel and figure out how to make it.

This website is 18 plus and this is the kind of question an 8 year old would come up with.
Come back in 10 years.

Germany didn't have the material technology, the industrial capacity, or the ability to fuel such things. Unlike what Wehraboos seem to thin there is no way the Nazis could have won WW2 once they started shit with the USSR.

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Hitler didn't care about the white race he cared about the "aryan" race
and the USA beat Germany just by supplying the USSR and UK, no war declaration would have made a difference

No, they already had cutting edge tech that was better than the allies and still lost

WW2 was won by production numbers

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Stealth is not as valuable in attrition warfare.

These things would not really be effective at warfare of the time.

True, much of stealth's value is in preventing lock-ons of missiles that didn't exist yet in WW2.

Cutting edge tech that broke all the time, was unproducible, and were only even attempted in utter desperation.

The Soviets had prototype jets to. It simply was not practical to produce them during wartime. The retooling and maintenance required for these early jets made them impractical.

Literally everything Germany did late in the war REEKED of desperation and nothing germany had in the beginning of the war was really anything special.

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Is it brown because it's cover in poo?

That pic is fake af. Stalin was well known for photoshopping to hide his crimes.
The real Hitler (peace and glory of god upon him) escaped on a secret flight to Turkey and died several years later of a stroke.
After WW3 is over and liberalism is eradicated, his remains will be recovered and a grand mausoleum in the style of Napoleon's will be erected to honor him and glorify the eternal racial struggle.
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the biggest obstacle for socialism is finding a way to tax people for having a job and paying people to not work, using the same taxes. All without paying out of their own pocket.

>mutts still doesn't undestand difference between social and economic systems
The biggest problems with planned economics is slow feedback and highest computational complexity.
And if development of computer networks radically improve feedback, economics complexity explodes brain.
For example, you need all TOP-500 supercomputer computing power for 5 years to balance 1970's USSR market.
USSR then produced 20 millions of items, from nails to spacestations.

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Actually they had the first Jet-powered aircraft during the war.

No that wouldn't have greatly helped against the soviet union. Battle of Britain is another story.

This is a perfect thread, I wanna ask you guys.
Which one would you chose? And why?
F-16 Block 70 or Saab JAS 39 Gripen?

Is the F-16 still a decent plane to use in modern warfare?