Slower than a rtx 2080, same price

>slower than a rtx 2080, same price
What did AMD mean by this?

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It's for poor people, as AMD products always are.

>slower
got a source on that?

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vega 64 is pretty close to rtx 2070 performance in most modern gaymes as it is. It would be unusual if vega 7 could not at least match a 2080 with that huge vRAM bandwidth boost and clockspeed uplift.

It still doesn't sit right in the belly for me though, I guess I was too anxious for a 150W TDP navi GPU that matched the rtx 2070 for less than $300.

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>It still doesn't sit right in the belly for me though, I guess I was too anxious for a 150W TDP navi GPU that matched the rtx 2070 for less than $300.
Reality called, it wants you back user

We literally have no benchmarks apart from like three games benched by AMD themselves. For all we know, it could shit on the 2080. Wait for independent benchmarks.

Just buy it, they will eventually release something good in 10-15 years!

You can hope that navi will do that by the end of 2019 or rather 2020. It's another year of mediocre performance at assfuck prices for you user.

so it's slower in most, while being slightly faster in a few? so it's sitting in between the 2070 and 2080. guess that was expected. maybe drivers and price cuts might fix this, but right now it doesn't look like a good buy.

It JUST seems so feasible tho, It leaves me hungry. I don't even care if Navi is just another GCN, if they crank up the individual CU performance by like 15% at the same vega clock it would be enough to give them an edge.

Yeah, guess I drank too much of the adoredtv koolaids.

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>What did AMD mean by this?
Nothing. It's just a gaming branded version of a professional card.
Cards designed from the ground up for gaming will come later this year.

>no comparisons with a 2080
yikes

see
At least on that gayme alone it will match the 2080.

Averages out to 28%. Don't know about the res, but on TPU 2080 averages 38-46% above vega 64 depending on res (smallest difference at 1080p, largest at 4k). That would put 2080 8-14% above VII, which is more than what I expected. I'd probably halve that to 4-7% behind, which seems more reasonable to me.

Don't forget the 300w

Your numbers are incongruent. The Vega 64 doesn't perform even close to the same on both charts.

The cherrypicked games AMD used to show off their radeon 7 only showed a 1 fps gain over the 2080

The other chart is 4K res you massive tard

Again, zero comparison to the 2080. You don't know your own argument.

game vii 2080
deusex 53.4 37.7
f1 78 69
farcry 62 57
hitman 53.3 79.2
m.hunt 35.4 33.4
2080 a trash for 4k gaming lel

numbers for 2080 are the first 5 games that were also on amd's vii list from overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_rtx_2080_and_rtx_2080_ti_review/

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>faster than 2080 according to amd presentation
>100usd lower msrp
>comes with double vram

shouldnt you be playing some rtx title at 1080 and 42fps instead of posting bullshit here nvidiots?

The fact that there's a 40% difference one way and a 60% difference the other way depending on the game didn't make it obvious to you that you shouldn't mix and match results from two different sources? The testing methodologies can vary so much that the results are completely worthless.

Don't worry. Nvidia is pulling so high margins on RTX cards that can easy adjust prices down and you can start comparing VII to 2080ti soon

Fuck do i know. AMD should sell their gpu division and focus all on CPU. They got something going with threadripper more funding surely would be nice. Fighting 2 giants at the same time is almost moronic

It's lucrative and their endgame is HSA APUs that can work without opencl BS. If they could fuse say a 16-core threadripper CPU and a vega 56 GPU in a way that made them execute existing C++/JAVA code and let them use the bruteforce FP64/FP32 of vega in a SIMD like fashion it could open a new era of supercomputers that surpass 1 exaflop with low power consumption than thought possible.

The biggest hurdle is very fast low latency memory being accessible to the CPU and the GPU at the same time. In theory ECC HBM could do this.

unlrelated but i love how clean it looks

if this is a failure so is the 2080.
navi will show up but not this early. think around computex

I want to upgrade from my 1070, but guess I'll still be Waiting For Navi™.

>if this is a failure so is the 2080

The 2080 is pretty fucking shit itself, both amdead and nvidiot are planning to release new cards pretty soon anyway, the current models are a stepping stone.

at 700$?

The difference is that 2080 isn't nvidia's flagship, and it's overpriced because AMD can't compete.

Call me when they announce new shit in the sub $350 range

>full fp64 throughout
>1tb/s bandwidth
>literally an unlocked compute mi50 card

gee i wonder why