Don't upgrade to 18.04. It completely breaks pip, python, etc. Fucks absolutely everything

Don't upgrade to 18.04. It completely breaks pip, python, etc. Fucks absolutely everything.

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works on my machine

Ubuntu is pos. I don't get why people recommend it to new Linux users.

ubuntu BTFO.
Shuttlecock suicide watch.

ubuntu 19 in 3 months... why the fuck are you just upgrading?
I've been using 18.10 for a year everything works fine

Retard, it works on my machine

How retarded must one be to fuck up an UBUNTU update? kek

maybe you're just a fucking retard?

Ubuntu 18.04 works perfectly fine, what are you on about, OP?

You may be retarded

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>Python
found your problem.

Too late
Works on my machine
Read the wiki

Recommend a better distro for noobs.

Manjaro

I only left vanilla Ubuntu because of GNOME. Using Budgie 18.04 and everything's fine, lole.

Mint is objectively the best option. Speaking from experience. It's a distro with the least amount of bullshit.

Happened to be too OP when I upgraded from 1 7 to 18. Shit just fell apart. Now I'm on Fedora. The upgrade from 28 to 29 broke a lot of shit too.
I'm considering Arch because I'm tired of releases breaking my shit.

Mint

If you're a noob (or jaded pro) and need to get working quickly, with a relatively stable environment then you use Fedora.
If you want to learn more about Linux in general and have no hurry, then Arch has great documentation in its wiki, but if you only follow the instructions without thinking and don't read the documentation later, you'll develop a very superficial understanding of your system AND waste a lot of time, which defeats the whole purpose of using something like Arch.

This is also a great alternative.

>python
>ubuntu
makes sense

>Mint
>This is also a great alternative.

Mint is horrible to upgrade between releases though.

>upgrading
There's your fucking problem, idiot. Do a fresh install.

>using mint instead of ubuntu mate.

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>Using a non rolling release distro on the desktop
Why would you do that?

Feels like every fixed-release distro is unless you just do fresh reinstalls. But the only alternative is rolling release, and that requires more attention than retards are willing to give. Just look at the recent Manjaro update fiasco, proving that morons can't be bothered to double check before upgrading.

what is the most stable rolling release
fedora tumbleweed?

Define stable

>using Ubuntu when Mint is basically a superior Ubuntu
Imagine being an idiot.

can upgrade packages without fear a first party package will break. I'm aware third party ones are a crapshoot

Gonna throw this out there, Fedora upgrades versions like a fucking champ. Never had an issue with it yet after 4+ upgrades

no it doesn't... I upgraded 28 -> 29 and now I get a shit tonne of errors on shutdown and OpenVPN/WireGuard doesn't work anymore.

>fedora tumbleweed?
try opensuse 29

Gotta agree with:
>Fedora upgrades versions like a fucking champ

I myself had one issue, on one machine, during one upgrade and that was due to software from a copr repo, and easily fixed. Maybe you were just unlucky, maybe you put some shit were it didn't belong.

Wart, mint is downstream from Ubuntu, which is downstream from Debian. What is the point?

This is what happens when you install pip packages globally, use —user from now on or use a virtualenv

More fuckery on your packages. The main and only draw for Ubuntu was the Unity desktop environment. It no longer exists so there is no standout reason to use Ubuntu. When you hit a certain level of skill all the distro become the same. Only Gentoo, Arch, Debian, Fedora and OpenSuse are worth messing with as desktop installs. CentOS and Debian for server usage. All other distro are just fucking around with packages and making it more difficult to sort out a fix.

>Only Gentoo, Arch, Debian, Fedora and OpenSuse are worth messing with as desktop installs.
This is truest redpill

>not using arch where you just update packages and don't have to bother with versions

Works on my machine

>Just look at the recent Manjaro update fiasco, proving that morons can't be bothered to double check before upgrading.
What happened with manjaro? I dropped that distro a couple months ago.

This.

Pop OS. I.e. Ubuntu with less shitty default choices.

And there's still people that believe that Ubuntu stable is more stable than manjaro.

>upgrading Ubuntu
you better end your life

I have no idea what he's talking about either. Literally just scan though your pacman log for pacnews and fix them. Haven't had a single issue in 2+ years of running manjaro kde.

False flagging

Same, it's currently the best 'jest werks' distro out there. Bonus points for minimal install option.

Unironically elementaryOS

What the fuck are you on about?
t. using bionic beaver with the listed programs

why are you installing pip and python with apt, you literal autist

>t

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>his operating system does not upgrade itself

so what is the correct way?
downloading tarballs on official website?

Lmao this was my first thought as well
Who the fuck cares about Python and pip. Deprecated noob shit. OP confirmed retard

there is no correct way, pip can update itself anyway so there is no reason not to get it from the repo
just make sure you install all the packages as user so they don't conflict with whatever the distro uses

Manjaro devs recently pushed packages to the stable edition that broke the system. It's fixed now but it shouldn't have happened.

> Mint
The mint developer is a fucking anti semite.

Fedora with rpmfusion ( rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ )

Hold on, they can't keep their SSL cert for shit, now this? whether or not this is a shit distro doesn't matter anymore, the maintainers are going to kill it with their incompetence.

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Possibly the only thing he's done right.

Which DE do you guys use? (I use KDE)

Xubuntu is superior, faggots

GNOME

EXPLORER.EXE

Plasma seems to be OK but shit it’s a mess inside. As long as you just want to mess around a bit with themes it’s OK. But it’s massively fucked up and tries to stay compatible with older KDE shit even though it’s not.

I’m turning my back on Linux though. We’ve had a good run, Linux and I, but it’s time to install OpenBSD. Soon it will be too late to install new OS’s.

>using a distro that promotes non-free software

based and white

Debian testing + non free drivers.

Sounds like you're too stupid to update even ubuntu. That's as dumb as GNU plus Linux get, yet you've managed to cock it up. Congratulations.

I vote for Mint. The fact that Ubuntu has GNOME3 as default is a testament to how retarded their """designers""" (see: programmers) are.

Source.

Cinnamon

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CentOS is great if you don't need a lot of packages or are ok with compiling from source. Fedora is good too. I've tried a few of distros when I started using linux around half year ago (in the same situation as you) and these seem to be the best to me. Probably need to install Gentoo, but I'm lazy.

OP here. Check out my sweet desktop. I'm gonna fill that 4 TB HDD with porn.

>inb4 dox

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It started out as a user focused Debian so a lot of people jumped to it back then.
They recognized it was easy for new users although everything is easy these days.
Then businesses recognized that it was easy to have everyone run the same distro and there would be a lot less software issues. Ubuntu offered a good option there.
That is basically why Ubuntu is where it is today. New users doesn't care about how software is distributed, so telling them X is great means they start with the same thing as I do and then they can learn the system.

And by Ubuntu, I mean anything Ubuntu based.

don't upgrade to 18.10 too, it'll break snap and you'll be stuck with a broken apt. remove snap first or just clean install

...and you mention this as a bad thing?
that's why Jow Forums hates Jow Forums, Jow Forums is a jewish board.

>APT
guardicore.com/2019/01/a-vulnerability-in-debians-apt-allows-for-easy-lateral-movement-in-data-centers

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Debian stable.
Plug it in, install, works forever.
>mint, ubuntu, manjaro, etc
those are distros based on s/w without any proper bug fixing. if you want to give a noob a machine that will work in every update and will never need maintenance, use debian stable.

Mint.

based, gonna install Mint now

>manjaro
>mint
what a bunch of fucking retards.
OP is stupid, Mint breaks more than Ubuntu because they are just a bunch of retards stealing packages and hacking it into a distro with a theme and bloated desktop, but most importantly no security. And now there's Manjaro, a fuxkikg joke since it's based in arch professional bug solving devs (a bunch of fucking retards playing with Linux).
The only right choices here are.
>OP is retarded and Ubuntu works fine
>Fedora
>CentOS (fuck Debian, their priorities are women and trannies so they will just not fix some security bugs or update desktops)

>breaks pip, python, etc.
Your PATH settings got overwritten you retard. This would happen on any distro.
Next time backup your profile and bashrc before you upgrade. Better yet, back up your entire home dir.

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>Ubuntu with Cinnamon is better than Ubuntu
If we're going to count different DEs as different distros then Ubuntu Mate is the best distro for beginners.

I use Mint because I can't stand Gnome or else I'd use Ubuntu.
What do?

sudo mv /usr/local/lib/python3.{5,6}

Just install Lubuntu and then do sudo apt install cinnamon

Cmon man

Are you retarded? Xubuntu is significantly worse than Mint Xfce. Mint is more than just "Ubuntu with Cinnamon". Don't talk about distros if you haven't used them.

>Mint breaks more than Ubuntu
It doesn't. You're a retard.

my university used mint (i think anyway, some shit with MATE) and they had X security *off by default*. Anyone could SSH into someone else's computer and run things in their X session with a simple 'XSESSION=:1 firefox nigger.com' or whatever

Lubuntu sucks.

do a server or net or minimalista install.
There's Ubuntu mate too.
It's funny that someone hates gnome when cinnamon is fucking windows bloat. and security should be top priority
>t. mintard
enjoy you toy hackable OS. Fedora and Ubuntu care for security

>Ubuntu
lol

>hackable OS
>Ubuntu cares for security
Mint is literally Ubuntu with a few fixes to improve desktop experience. If Mint can be hacked then so can Ubuntu.

LQXT w/ Openbox

Linux from Scratch. It's as base as it can get 2bh

Presumably the security is that they kick you out if you do that.

Never upgrade a linux distrubution, if you want a newer version, just do a fresh install.

Finally, a reason to use Mint other than coming from windows as a complete noob.

Mint is bloated as shit, even with XFCE DE.
Get Xubuntu and theme it, and it just fucking works. Fast, looks decent and it runs properly.

I actually made it a point to compare Mint Xfce and Xubuntu. Xubuntu has slightly more packages and uses slightly more RAM than Mint Xfce, so that 'bloat' comment doesn't hold much water in reality. In saying that, both are perfectly fine to use; there's no shame in using either.