How do i test for viruses/malware on a motherboard/bios? Yes, i mean motherboard, not harddrive. Dont ask me why

Unless you have your mobo schematics you literally can't. In some specific cases, like if a virus sets up hypervisor, you can compare interrupt durations to a new mobo of the same model. You also probably have Intel ME which is a huge backdoor by itself. There's also a Windows specific case where mobo can inject some code into it, like change the boot logo for example, forgot what it's called. I can only recommend aripiprazole in your case.

Why would i need the schematics? To be honest with you i did reading on this and i found that there is one way which is desoldering the BIOS chip and putting in some kind of device which i forgot the name of but thats off the table obviously. I suspected though that it may be possible to read the BIOS (or whatever else is on the motherboard that can be tampered with) through USB, and theoretically i dont see why that wouldnt be possible. But i dont know if an actual known method exists. This why i am asking this basically.

And i can assure you this is not a schizophrenic delusion. I have reasonable suspicion to believe this may be the case. Its a complicated story so i wont go into it, but im not making shit up.

At that, im not even sure if this is worth it at all. One part of me wants to just chuck it out the window so i can just move on from it, but the other part of me pains over the money i'd have to spend for a new one. So i at least have to try.

Check if there's an intel CPU

>And i can assure you this is not a schizophrenic delusion
You know exactly what it sounded like. Well, lojax exists so there's some truth to your concerns.

>And i can assure you this is not a schizophrenic delusion
>Its a complicated story so i wont go into it, but im not making shit up.
choose one

Uncle installed uefi rootkit.

No i did not think that, i said that in reply to your epic comment about schizo drugs.

And yeah i guess im talking about rootkits. How do i test for them?

I have no clue about the specifics here, i just need to know how i can make sure this thing is clean without taking it apart physically

and he would do that because?
and he has the skills to do that because?

This. Also, based and redpilled.

This is not me, but i kekked.

Its not even a crazy idea dude. Rootkits are not a new thing.

It's a Jow Forums meme.

Sure, you can flash the BIOS with a custom version, but you'd need to reverse engineer the existing one or recreate a perfect copy with the modifications. The amount of time and effort involved would be ridiculous. Do you really think anyone smart enough cares that much about your porn collection?

You said that somebody had physical access to your PC. Who, other than your relatives?

Isnt making that process smooth and easy the job of a rootkit though? I dont think it would be as hard as you say it is desu. I think it could be done with ease desu.

I get that you're trying to comfort me but really there are two options for me. Either i make sure this thing is clean or im just gonna snap it in two or something so i dont have to think about it anymore (because i dont think anyone buys motherboards second hand) and can just buy a new one instead. I hate the second option though so i at least have to try to salvage it

Just flash that with official bios and call it a day.

Just trash your computer or sell the parts. Buy a Librebootable Thinkpad if you are truly concerned about this sort of stuff.

I thought about that but you'd think that anyone smart enough to develop a rootkit for such purposes would also be smart enough to do something to prevent a simple flash of a bios of undoing it.

Unfortunately it seems like you may turn out to be right. If i cant find a way to test this without desoldering the bios chip im gonna just snap it in half and get it done with. I dont think anyone will buy a used motherboard.

Oh look it's the fucking schizo again
>I dont think anyone will buy a used motherboard
How can you be so wrong on so many levels? You're parallel with reality,get help.

Even brand new mobo came with malicious code, there is no hope for you.

>the schizo
>everyone on Jow Forums is the same person
ironic

Reflash your bios to the latest version
Jfc how many layers of tin foil deep are you?

user, take out CMOS battery, it resets your BIOS. :^)

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about

SeeI dont understand why you guys think that rootkits are such an insane thing. As i said someone other than me has had physical access to the mobo. Under these circumstances, its not in any way a crazy idea.

Who in the world could have access to the motherboard, want to infect it and have the necessary skills to modify the bios?
The whole thing is really improbable

you're looking for an imaginary solution to an imaginary problem

It is improbable but it did happen. Im not here trying to figure out if someone had access to it or not. I know that for a fact. Im here trying to figure out how i can tast if there is malware on it, or if its possible at all without desoldering the bios chip, but me thinks if you can infect through USB it logically follows you should be able to test if it is infected through USB.

How do you know if it happened?
Do you honestly think someone is after you that bad to pull something off like that?

This is legitimate, unironic, clinical schizophrenia, I highly recommend you visit a doctor as soon as possible. Stay away from any sharp objects you could use to hurt other people who you perceive as part of the paranoia.
>but it makes sense!
Every schizo thinks their paranoia makes sense. Get fucking help before you kill someone because they are part of the secret police that put chips into your motherboard or something. You CAN treat this, there are medications, give it a chance.

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He probably has cp in his computer, which is the main reason he is paranoid, and also one that discourages him from seeking help

nice try cia nigger

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>I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about
You know, that store manager, who put that viruses/malware on your mainboard.

you have to take out the motherboard,
disconnect it for 10 minutes to clear residual charges, including batteries
then you want to depolarize it,
you will need to buy thioacetone to do this.
rub the board with it using a woolen dot

Dump the bios and compare to original.

How do i know it happened? The same way i know that i know you replied to my post now. Look nigger im not speculating here. If you dont have an answer to the question dont post.

You're a retard
And you're projecting.
Go play internet therapist somewhere else. You can use yourself as a subject to begin with seeing how you spiral off into insane horror stories when you hear about a fucking rootkit.

How do i do this

See this guy here is an actual candidate for your psychology thesis. Go talk to him instead

>The same way i know that i know you replied to my post now.
what did you mean by this

No the rookit is smart enough to avoid the dump.

What's with the fucking schizo threads lately, first it's data mergers killing people and now it's fucking CIA sneaking into houses to solder motherboards, give me a break.

Wait does OP think that a store manager put a virus on his mobo?

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OP here, NVM Bros, figured out.

Why do you guys do this to me man, im just asking a simple question on testing for viruses and you guys act like i asked you how to build a cpu in my garage

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No i fucking dont, i have no idea what he is on about, he might be an actual schizo

Internet's dead user. I struggle with the same problem, it's either Jow Forums or reddit flavor of idiocy.

Not to mention facebook and google.

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OP is a special retard, and its not even summer.

I feel you. If you do a google search on something now, especially tech related there are a million useless ad hosting sites run by pajeets or those list articles which are the same thing. Everything has been turned into an advertising platform.

The most low level a malware would appear so as to spread to different pc's and keep alive even through formatting, is in the bootloader/grub, which is a pain in the ass to deal with that.
It's not worth setting a malware for the bios, since there are a ton of different bios, dependant on the brand and model, plus flashing the bios ends the problems.

If it was really that easy to make motherboard/bios viruses then people would be doing it a lot more or even making money off of it because of how obscure and devastating it could be.

>building CPU in a garage is difficult
a..user...

>Schizo GTFO
>Now let's talk about how to remove the indestructible spyware installed on my motherboard by a CIA ninja
Seek help OP, I'm not even joking

Get a new mobo, it’s not like they’re expensive and no one hid a payload in your power supply right so fuck it just replace that part and maybe hard drive

Besides the uefi you have all the other firmware in the processor, drives, wifi-card and idk what else.

>flashing the bios ends the problems
see

But new mobo might came with malware too.

Is that why user said you need the schematics?

Hahaha user just you wait, just you wait until your entire life's purpose will be to advertise. Learn to love it because you fuckers don't know the level of assfucking that's in store for you.

>anyone smart enough to develop a rootkit can...
don't you think anyone """anyone smart enough to develop a rootkit""" is also smart enough to track your activity and intercept any packages you might order? Or find some other way to get to your hardware/ exploit zero-days by the manufacturer/ digitally rape you through the Intel ME?

Unless you can think of a specific method by which some malware can avoid being flashed off the bios, then you don't have the right to consider it possible. You can either (1) do real research into so your reality is grounded in facts or (2) move on with your life. Dealing with paranoia 101.

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Well that's the thing, literally anything that actually had normal readable/writable storage is 1000x more likely to ship with a virus on it (USB drive, wall mounted digital photo viewer etc) then a motherboard, so at that point might as well go full Luddite

get help, user

First guy you replied to is not me
Its this guy larping thinking he is le epic troll xd. And the ironic thing is he is calling me a schizo but he is talking to himself basically as no one but him said the things he said, lmao.

Bu anyways to answer your question, i just threw it out there as a possibility. I dont know anything about this stuff really. I was more asking a question if that would be possible than saying that is possible.

That guy you are replying to is a troll but honestly, i dont think what you are saying is right. Motherboards are the only parts that i have ever bought that dont come with a sealed box. So i would say its actually the most likely part to come with a virus on it.

Always found that odd btw

>Aren't mobo memory read-only?, so technically impossible to write executable code
Not for SystemD :--DDD

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ebin

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