Why should I care about them spying on me?

>why should I care about them spying on me?
>I've got nothing to hide
what's your response?

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"You don't mind me knowing all your credit card information then"

>Of course I have something to hide. It's called my private files, browsing habits, and personal information. Encryption and avoiding online services that spy on my data (which I colloquially call "botnets" and yes, I know that's a misnomer) should be as normal as putting up window blinds, locking your door, keeping a gun under your bed, and hiding your valuables.

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>I've got nothing to hide
Sure, if you really have nothing to hide, then you actually don't need to care about any of that.
I have tons of stuff to hide, like all my browsing and usage habits and metadata - which can easily be used to construct an extremely detailed psychological profile of me, my habits and personal quirks, my occupation and regular activities - I'm sure you'd understand that I'd rather not have dozens of unspecified, faceless, unscrupulous ad companies, whose only concerns are their own profit and basic legality (or a practical appearance thereof), know in excruciating detail what my daily life is like and who I am as a person.

But if you don't want to hide any of that, by all means, it's your choice

If a backdoor in a computer can be used by the government, it can be found and used by common criminals. This makes software that doesn't respect your privacy vulnerable to hacking, which could lead to the theft of you data, and possibly even identity fraud depending on what's stored in your hard drive.

Not once have I ever had someone refute this beyond "only the government has access" so I BTFO them with numerous examples of horrible vulnerabilities causing widespread panic and performance destroying patches (Spectre, Meltdown, etc).

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I doubt that. Have you ever shopped online? Thankfully for your dumbass the vendor hides your credit card and billing information so some asshole doesn't steal it. Hey, good thing your e-mails are also encrypted so the same asshole can't read your receipt with the same information. Hope you didn't download that receipt, otherwise the same asshole could get into your files on your un-encrypted file system and just take your information from there. Oh, you do have a password on your account, have disabled the guest account, and changed the builtin admin's default passwords, right?

>I run Linux
Then why are we having this discussion?

>Can I watch you jerk off on your webcam?
>Can I borrow your credic card details?
>Do you mind if I know where you are at all times?
>Mind if I look through all the porn you watch?
One of these in proper context

so i assume you've uninstalled the front door of your house?

>what's your response?
"Kill yourself faggot you serve the Jews."

Why is this stupid fucking argument always repeated? Just because I have nothing to hide doesn't mean I want to share it.

Then why are you not sharing what you clearly don't want to hide?

>what's your response?
I used to bother trying but these days I just write that person off as too stupid to be worth my time as well as a security risk.

None of you understand what someone who would say that means.

It's always low T white guys that say this too

None of you understand what someone who would say that means either.

>look mom I replied to everyone

>Jews
You are a dead nigger than dead if you ever threaten this woman's life again.

>jews
>female
You might be on to something here

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did i just get china na-na-na'd?

No I understand completely, and they're wrong. Inherently, "nothing to hide nothing to fear" isn't wrong - if you truly had nothing to hide, then yeah privacy would be irrelevant to you and you could stop caring completely about what data anyone has about you.
Problem is that even those people have a lot of stuff to hide, they just don't realise it. What they fail to understand is that information doesn't have to be somehow horribly incriminating to be worth keeping private.

Hi there!

a better question is what's wrong with having something to hide? i don't need the gov't to decide what's right or wrong for me. the entire foundation of the stupid "hurr i got nothing to hide" argument is that obeying the law is morally good and disobeying it is morally wrong, which isn't true. the law has no say in morals. i have plenty to hide because i'd rather the gov't not make assumptions about me based on their own biases. not everything they consider "wrong" is actually wrong

Oh really? What's the difference between one kind of a secret and another? Who gets to decide? I'm sure you'd love to let a government agency work it out for you.... Just hand them all your data, I'm sure they're trustworthy...

That's so stale, user, come on. How do you still need help.

Nothing to hide and something to find.

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So why have free speech if you've got nothing to say? Do you really trust the government that much? After they tax you for a third of your earnings, tax you for god knows what of your spending, abuse you in public school, enslave you to fight in overseas wars, force you to pay rent on the land that you bought, and now apparently are afraid enough that you'll do something about it that you're going to be monitored. Yeah sure, but people like you are why I encourage anyone who values their future to have an unfortunate boating accident with their "assault weapons."

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If you don't want to share it, you want to hide it you stupid fucking nigger.

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CORRECTOMUNDO.

web.archive.org/web/20180127173904if_/http://tehlug.org:80/files/solove.pdf This. People who employ data mining and targeted advertising need a few years in the gulag for reeducation. It is very harmful and a big security risk. Nothing good can come of it.

if you have nothing to hide then you lack ambition. computers make doing most kinds of work a lot easier. if your computer isn't secure then your work is vulnerable to big companies who would profit off stealing it. if you don't support preventing state sponsored espionage then you aren't preventing corporate espionage which undermines the economy and the livelihood of everyone around you. because you would rather not think more than 1 step ahead about problems.

>I've got nothing to hide
Well yeah I'm not doing anything illegal either but that's not the point.

why do people these days think the internet is a private affair you do for free

What do you mean? Does your ISP work for free?

the internet is an inherently public device that you pay other people to let you use
I know these days it FEELS like a universal human right but when it comes down to it it's a privilege that comes with the costs of whomever provides the service to you

it's like going to a park and expecting not to be looked at by anyone, or even more apt, like staying a guest in someone else's house and expecting them to not know you're there

But everyone pays for their internet, except maybe those who use public/school/work internet. ISPs generally bill you monthly. As for 'being looked at': I never browse in public, personally. I suppose I see a lot of people on phones/laptops in public these days, though.

are you a corporate shill?
or an autistic trollposter?
because it sounds to me like you would rather be paying for packages of websites like the big companies want you to

and you can't compare the free and open internet to those park and house examples. that's an argumentative fallacy. you're done in my opinion. /thread

>and you can't compare the free and open internet to those park and house examples.
Why not? Throw me a bone here, I think we aren't on the same page.

>Would you be uncomfortable if you were trying to have a private conversation at a restaurant and someone was listening in? You're not talking about anything wrong or illegal, you don't have anything to "hide" but it's still no one's damn business but your own.

This usually gets through to people.

because you set up the comparison to house/park with the presumption that its a universal human right. and the negatives of the privilege for your examples are "to be looked at" and "expecting them to know you're there", respectively. so what I'm saying is you are starting to argue an apples and oranges scenario. the internet is not the same as the park or the house and therefor it is not a good argument to me, a reader.

I'm not doing anything illegal when I'm taking a shit, that doesn't mean I'm okay with strangers watching me do it

I should've clarified, I do agree that internet isn't a human right or anything of the sort; you buy a subscription that varies wildly by quality and cost depending on the provider and area. I do not equate internet access with the park or house you've mentioned in your previous post. In fact, I do not understand the comparison at all. What is the original argument, then? People do pay for internet access, and that's no one's business.

I have something to hide:
>MY IDENTITY, I'm not a fucking currency!

I'm not pathetic enough to sell my daily life for free to some data analysts, or the government who might misuse that information if it becomes tyrannical.
You just won retard of the year. Then I have nothing to hide, but don't want to share it with companies or the government either.

I think you and I are multi-track drifting in our argument.
My argument is that it's not a human right.
Although I do think it's free. Somewhat. You could find the internet for free in some places somewhere...maybe through a business. Maybe it's free with your rental lease. Perhaps you live in a rural area in Spain and someone charitable wants you to have free access. Who knows. My point is that not everyone is paying. And I think the internet has the potential to become free, as well.
I don't think people should be monitored as part of their "payment" for being online. And I don't think they should be monitored as part of any government project for public "protection".
There is no place for an ISP creating packages for websites.

at this point I should inform you that I am also Richard Stallman

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Install gentoo!!!!!!

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live free or die tryin'

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"Without privacy, you can't have anything for yourself. Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

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Doesn't seem like the same poster, but anyway: I agree with the points you've presented in this post, especially the last part. Any payment that isn't a direct transaction is cancer. I've no issues with paying an ISP for a good service, but even they shouldn't be able to see what I do with it.

i'm not pathetic enough to argue about privacy with normalfriends.

Exactly, you guys are not as importants as a president that is potentially in danger at putting personal or private info on the internet, the only thing is your bank accounts, we have to be very careful with that, otherwise watch me jerk off if you want, eventually you'll get bored

haha same
cept when you're drunk, right?

That's reasonable. But I prefer to use
>I don't mind them spying, I'm not a citizen of their country

lol yeah i go full autism when i'm drunk and it's quite entertaining or so i'm told

Information should be free. Great! You do not have anything to hide, but even if you did, you should not hide it. Our live are insignificant, all information will one day contribute to something larger than all of us, your information will be a part of something great one day. Keep sharing buddy!

You actually can compare any two things

Nice. When can we expect all that source code for proprietary software?

After the singularity it's all yours, thanks for contributing

>After the singularity
I'll hold out from participating for now. I was hoping they'll meet me halfway.

Too late you're already participating! Woopsie!

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we steal secrets.

The only time I've ever heard this was from a women who had electrical tape over her webcam

We both know you do.

Psychosexuality is a bitch, amirite?

>You have nothing to feel bad about, it's just another human's penis forcing into you, you don't have anything to hide right?
>What do you mean you don't "like" it? Haha. Well we're going to do it anyway, open up whiteboi

I wish i could looooove youuuuuuuuuuu. BPFL. How's that feel, sporty spice?

It's like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothnig to say.

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Period

Then why do you close the door when you go to the bathroom?

>keep saying racist stuff about china
>hit with sudden realization that if they actually take over the world me and my family might be the first to gulag
Long live CCP!

CCCP is a Matter Of Self Service And Defence

Remember the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests

Remember this day because i hold no fucking judgments on those that don't step to my friends :]

But I DO have stuff to hide, faggot.

"I don't need freedom of speech because I have nothing to say"

You're almost there user