Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see notes pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >How to assemble a PC youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti | If you can't afford to spend 350 dollar on a CPU go with AMD. >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3400CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices for older, less demanding or very well optimized titles >RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb vram only good for 1080p or as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega56 ONLY if on sale 1440p >RTX 2070; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 ONLY if on sale >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice but Vega7 launch is soon so better wait >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
Why is AMD so good with CPUs but so shit with GPUs?
Joseph Bell
Third for Navi will not suck but that won't matter because people want a GEFORCE GTX anyway.
Nathan Martinez
(You) hlp
Angel Morales
>RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >Now that nvidia supports freesync Cringe.
Christian Hernandez
>Now that nvidia supports freesync on 10 out of almost 300 monitors, fuck off pajeet
Ryder Thompson
Ok guys been out of the game for a while, first pc I ever built was in 2008, and then did some upgrades in 2015, now, im wanting to start fresh again. The current pc I have I am planning to use it as a second pc for recording my games, and maybe do two pc streaming setup. (I already have a weaker pc doing that)
So I made a list, I am liking this whole RGB stuff going on (I know shit on me about it, wont change my mind) and I read OP, and some of my choices on hardware was decent.
Anyways, my budget is 2000 dollars USD (US dollar) I will be using this for gaming, and video editing (my gaming videos) I wanted to do SLI to help with exporting the videos, but it seems its more CPU intensive, and also SLI seems like a meme still. My monitors are 1080p, and both use HDMI (what the fuck is display port? I figured hdmi would be more common on video cards) I will just need the tower and OS. I would like to have a cpu closed loop watercooling system, but I am not set in on it, if still using a big block fan cooler is fine, we can stick with that. im open to either or.
This is the list I was working on.
BTW I am open to swapping parts, user from previous thread asked me about the cpu choice. I just didnt notice there was a newer generation. pcpartpicker.com/list/LWhLgw
Yeah but it turns out freesync is fucking garbage and 90% of "freesync" monitors don't actually work without nasty brightness flicker, artificating or worse.
you probably don't need a 1k watt psu. what monior(s) are you using? can you post a pcpartpicker link?
Benjamin Lee
>intel depreciated entry level cpu
Jacob Turner
F U T U R E P R O O F
Jace Allen
Literal fucking facts mate. Turns out the 5 people who use AMD cards didn't even bother trying freesync. Meanwhile nvidia users have compiled spreadsheets on every freesync monitor on the market with test results.
Benjamin Hill
I don't want to live in a future where we need 1KW PSUs tbqfhwu
Justin Davis
you could get a vega 7 instead and oc that thing if you really wanted to utlize the 1k power. it comes out in 5 days so it shouldn't be a long wait
Asher Gonzalez
Literally never had any artifacting or flicker on my monitor keep lying on the internet though, i bet nvidia will pay you back someday.
Nathan Taylor
Yeah I'm sure you don't... on the desktop with freesync disabled. Try actually testing it.
Joseph Brown
I don't think my current corsair cx650 will be enough for an RTX.
Jordan Gray
Are intelfags still in hardcore denial mode about 16 core 5ghz cpus?
exporting has to do with cpu/ram. if you're going to be exporting a lot of shit, then i'd go for 32gb. the difference between display port and hdmi are negligible, but the most graphics cards (including the one you lsited) only have 1 hdmi port, unless you're monitors are relatively old, they probably have display port
Cameron Hughes
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Evan Cooper
Yes, it will. That's not an AMD card.
Alexander Young
you're computer's gonna be less efficient though
Aaron Thompson
Running a 2600x with a cooler master gammaxx 400 and was wondering why I dont see lower temperatures between ~1000rpm and 1500rpm. The temperatures aren't high, roughly 70C when running prime95 but was just curious that setting the cpu fan higher made no difference. Is it because I'm at the limit of what the heatsink can dissipate?
Landon Jones
I'm not going to buy a monitor and plan to use my old Dell P2014H which is most comfortable for me.
Evan Flores
Fan speeds increase, cooling power increases, clock speeds go up to match so temps stay the same. That's how AMD's boost system works.
Brandon Morales
Hey Jow Forumsents, i need an advice i am fucking itching to sell my gtx 1070 before Nvidia gimps it to hell and no one wants to buy it, and get an RX 590 in the meantime since all iv'e seen is that AMD keeps getting better with every driver release, my GTX 1070 sometimes downclocks to 139mhz on some games even after DDU and latest drivers so i am guessing the fucking gimping began when the RTX 2060 launched...is it logical? or i am being paranoid as fuck?
Michael Sullivan
Thanks user. I checked the back of my monitors and found a vga, hdmi, and dvi....
Looks like I'll be riding single monitor until I buy newer monitors with display ports.
Colton Smith
dell.com/ae/business/p/dell-p2014h/pd wait so you're planning on getting a monster pc for 1600 by 900 60hz? you can run games at ultra settings at that resolution with midrange parts. I suggest toning doe wn the build and buying a new monitor. since you'll get way more out of it than buying expensive parts for a low-end monitor
Lucas Phillips
So I finally finished my 10-year upgrade two nights ago. Speccy was saying my cpu was at 110c even though my mobo was reading it at 43c
this is what I came up with. Would upgrading my PSU be a good idea as well? I've been using the same 550w one since 2013
Also theres a note at the bottom saying I need a adapter for the Noctua cooler I already have, any idea what that is? I already had a stick of DDR4 ram so I just went with 8gb more
Lincoln Sullivan
If I wanted to muck around with building bargain bin computers just for fun, where should I start?
Jack Powell
>what that is? >I already had a stick of DDR4 ram so I just went with 8gb more No, don't use that slow stick. Just get 2x8 3200. That single 2400 would drag the whole system down.
you have to have a noctua fan and an am4 keyboard at the same time? lame so when i buy zen2+x570 i'll have to use the stock cooler for the first week while i wait for the noctua am4 mounting kit? L A M E
oopsie i slipped up i'm not gonna delete and repost tho
Julian Adams
Hey user thanks for taking your time to help me out. I was also debating with 32 or 16gb of ram.
Ill opt on the RGB ram, The RGB fans and cpu cooler will be sufficient.
Xavier Powell
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor Is the m.2 worth it? It's the first time I'm building a pc with SSD, so I have no idea if it's worth paying more for.
Justin Green
pcpartpicker.com/list/8Qj9dX >9700k->8700k practically identical speeds with the 8700k gaining more threads, better for multi-tasking. both cpus will outperform anything at 1080p 144hz >2070->2060 2070 is overkill for 1080p. I have a 1070ti thst doesn't dip below 160hz when playing games at high settings. the 2060 is better than the 1070ti and will run almost anything 144hz on ultra. >1000->650 watts even if you overclocked everything to max the wattage wouldn't go past 600 >900p 60-> 1080p 144 jump in both resolution and refresh rate. necessary to see the jump in quality for the upgrade
Blake Diaz
>you can run games at ultra settings at that resolution with midrange part How mid range are we talking? My current R9 270x struggles with most AAA titles. For example in R6 Siege I can only play comfortably with no stuttering on medium settings, Mirror's Edge Catalyst won't even allow me to change the settings, so all textures are low. Basically I can only have games on medium settings, no ultra, it's been a while since I played a game where I could freely set all settings to Ultra.
Caleb Carter
it's either 3000 or 3400 ram. 3000 is the budget option with decent performance for a good price and 3400 is the pure performance option for those that don't want to drop 200 bucks on b-die but get roughly the same performance.
Hunter Reed
It shouldn’t cost more of the same sata type, or if it does, like a few bucks extra. Get the evo 860 500gb/1tb m.2
Jeremiah Lee
compared to regular ssds they are a bit faster, and it's more convenient just screwing it in to the motherboard than having to deal with the sata cables
Adrian Wilson
Well thats a shame, I kept it around thinking it could be used when I upgrade. I'll go with 2x8 then
Thanks
So the old 550W PSU is fine then? No reason to upgrade it too?
Carson Barnes
>practically identical speeds with the 8700k gaining more threads, better for multi-tasking. both cpus will outperform anything at 1080p 144hz I know it sounds weird, but where I live 9700K is cheaper than 8700K.
Ethan Gutierrez
Well you could just buy the kit for $10 if you're impatient. All you need is the invoice for an AM4 board to get it ordered.
Evan Anderson
Oops I meant on opt out of the rgb ram. The ram you listed is perfect.
Averages are so fucking misleading on their own. What you want are 99%s, 1%s and 0.1%s with frametimes. Otherwise you might buy a 2060 or i5 fully convinced they are perfectly fine because they run your favorite games at 100fps average but then you get micro stutters and really bad latency. Then why are the averages so high? Because the games run fine for 10 seconds at 80fps, then drop down to 46 for a split second and are back again at 75. That shit is literally unplayable.
Jack Ward
You're being paranoid as fuck, but only by interpreting incompetence as malice. Newer NVidia drivers don't hit quite the same sweet spot on pascal as some of the earlier ones, like 391.35, or 399.24, though they have the newer security updates. imo that's the issue with trying to maintain one set of drivers for various GTX architectures, as well as RTX turing, etc. to normie-proof the driver installation process.
Brody Sanders
>recommending the RTX 2060 JUST POST THE IN-GAME PERFORMANCE QUANTILES AND THE HORROR WILL END (no averages or misleading statistics that assume a normal distribution)
Nicholas Ward
Totally different people.
Lincoln Nguyen
Me on the third reply.
Brandon Taylor
>-Posted from my iPhone
Juan Adams
>8700k gaining more threads, better for multi-tasking. wrong, 9700k is better in multitasking as well
Blake Wilson
Anybody here run Monster Hunter World at 1440p and greater than 60hz? Want to know what hardware you have.
Is it now? Regardless both cpus are overkill for 1080p 60hz
Kayden Myers
I got a Jewvidia 1070Ti for $270, top that AMDfags. For perspective, the RTX 2060 goes for $500 here.
Joseph Walker
Based and redpilled white man defeating the jews. That 8 GB VRAM is guaranteed to futureproof you for the next 3-4 years while 2060 babies will post pink wojaks within the next 1-2 years.
>tfw want to rebuild old pc for the enjoyment of the build but realise you don't enjoy many games anymore and don't use it very much so is probably a waste of money is it worth spending £800~ on new parts so I can play 5 games a year?
Lucas Wood
Pretty good. I changed the 480gig ssd to a 500gig that's cheaper. the build is perfect for 1440p instead of 1200p so I upgraded ur monitor for $20 pcpartpicker.com/list/Lt83GG
Angel Allen
Well I'll get a 7nm Nvidia GPU after a year or two, the 1070ti is gonna last me well enough until then at 1440p.
Andrew Martinez
Okay, so I might have made a mistake.
I am building a new machine with a Ryzen 2700X (inb4 that's the mistake). I wanted to use my old cooler for the CPU, an Alpenfohn Ben Nevis, because I thought it would fit the AM4 socket. Now I had a look at the manual and it didn't say anything about AM4. Now, I have this thing since summer of 2017, so if I could use it on AM4, it would be listed, wouldn't it? Or is AM4 identical with AM3? I got all my components here, mainboard should arrive tomorrow, but I really don't want to get another cooler and replace it, I want to build this thing and be done with it.
tl;dr: Is it possible to mount an AM3 or less cooler on an AM4 socket?
Luis Brown
>thinks a mined to hell 1070Ti for $270 is a good deal
Henry Roberts
>tfw new GPU is DOA >old GPU is dead >new new GPU will be here in five days
Yea man, I upgraded from a 660. First high end gpu I’ve ever owned. Just wanted to gloat a lil
Ayden Sullivan
It's brand new, I got it on some Amazon flash sale. Why would I post about buying a used card?
Eli Wright
Not without AM4 mounting brackets. You can buy them separately for most coolers but you’re better off just grabbing a new cpu cooler
Jose Scott
>things that didnt happen
Jose Gomez
Well, I have AM* mounting brackets, the question just is whether they will also fit AM4 or not. I also just found on the Alpenfoehn website the information that Ben Nevis and Sella have been compatible with AM4 since ever, but at the same time they talk about AM4 kits for the coolers and now I am confused.
Julian Perry
>Set fans at full speed >Shit sounds like a helicopter >Set fans at 55% exhaust, 60% intake manually >Same exact temps but much quieter
Are my case fans useless?
Xavier Wilson
well I tried it all and unless I tilt the monitor all the way down like the middle one in pic related, a decent chunk of the display remains dark up top. It's worse in movies during dimly lit/night sequences, TN is just shit.