Hi, Britfag living under snooper charter here, is there any hope for privacy for me?

Hi, Britfag living under snooper charter here, is there any hope for privacy for me?

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Oi, where is your posters license?

you know you're not allowed to carry that butter knife around? sorry but not sorry, thats a life-time in jail, tough luck next time!

Can't you purchase offshore services like VPS, VPN, and/or proxies like everyone else?
Doesn't "sealand" make their money off this type of shit?

with Breggsit, the entire country will collapse into The Absolute State of dystopian decay shortly. Cameras be the least of yir problems, so, STFU

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>Europe is trying hard as fuck to scare the bongs out of brexit

>the entire country will collapse into The Absolute State of dystopian decay shortly
What makes you think that the UK will end up anything like the EU is now?

>b-but what about the Cambodian Export Market?
'ludicrous fucking farce' was few bus stops back down the road ago now, just, make it stop, someone
The UK actually is a fucking mess, and I deeply resent any and all attempts towards limiting the poor remaining inhabitants chances of GTFO again.

your desire for privacy has been noted and once processing is finished you will be assigned a re education center

>b-but what about the Cambodian Export Market?
What about it? That's Cambodia's problem, and not the Brits.
>The UK actually is a fucking mess
And it would be even worse with the EU.

EU isn't a good thing either. It's basically leftist totalitarianism.

No. Your grandpas fought WWII precisely so that you could live in such a shithole.

We didn't win the war to be ruled by little Hitlers from Brussels.

Of course you didn't.
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Churchill was a filthy communist.

>EU is leftist
are you retarded?

He probably didn't mean with Germany though. He probably meant Europe should try out a united states type deal, but without Germany for when the Germans start ww3.

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>are you retarded?
EU views themselves to be centrist to left, but the entire world views them as near extreme left.

You'd have to be a massive retard to think the EU was leftist. They're a huge liberal project with free trade and free movement of labour in its core. How is that leftism? Also EPP has been the dominant force in the EU for quite a while now
>The EPP has been the largest party in the European Parliament since 1999 and in the European Council since 2002. It is also by far the largest party in the current European Commission. The President of the European Council, President of the European Commission and the President of the European Parliament are all from the EPP. Many of the Founding fathers of the European Union were also from parties that later formed the EPP.

Shut your gob. I'm an immigrant over here and even we know the EU is fucked. Quit scare mongering and go back to sucking your gf's dick mate.

>I'm an immigrant over here
you a wot were over where mate?
>retard

>You'd have to be a massive retard to think the EU was leftist.
No. You'd have to be a non yuroshit to think that. Hence the rest of the world considers the EU gay, and leftist.
It's like how the rest of the world considers sucking dick as a man "gay", but Europeans just consider it breakfast.

>Has been ruled by center-right for much of its life
>Has been founded on liberal principles and on right-wing ideas of free market and capitalism
>"No mate it's leftist somehow, though I'm not going give any reason other than that I feel it is"
Amazing. Can you give some examples on which ways it is leftist?

It's all subjective. Hence the rest of the world considers it a leftist institution while you the dumb faggot in this thread actually think that it's not.
I know it's probably the afternoon for you right now, but shouldn't you be getting breakfast?

> Can you give some examples on which ways it is leftist?
You've already done a good enough job of doing so though.

>It's all subjective.
Holy shit, friendo, I just asked for examples on leftist stuff they do, not to come up with some weakass excuse.
>It's all subjective
>Free market capitalism is a leftist policy
Please explain, unless you're saying free market, free trade, capitalisn etc are left-wing ideals. In which case I can only ask you to stop digging yourself in that hole you're digging.

I hope you aint expecting a factual answer - tbf, what probably clouds the issue is/was immigration. Germany (+Merkel/CDU) and thus defacto EU leadership IS center-right, but the 'open doors' immigration policy came across leftist, while its actual basis is/was economic. Regardless, even they appear to have grasped, filling cities with a demographic 70/30 male, 30%+ of whom are immigrants, that wont end well.

>Liberal principles
Kind of kills it especially in practice.

The EU is a very progressive organization so ignorant people think that they are left wing

IRA pls start bombing again

It's virtually Venezuela, but before the collapse.

Enjoy your new truck drivers.
>Tfw EU trucks of peace are no longer reported

Are you perhaps confusing "liberalism" with its US definition, where liberalism seems to be the same thing as leftism, unlike in the rest of the world?
>Over time, the meaning of the word "liberalism" began to diverge in different parts of the world. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica: "In the United States, liberalism is associated with the welfare-state policies of the New Deal programme of the Democratic administration of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt, whereas in Europe it is more commonly associated with a commitment to limited government and laissez-faire economic policies".
Lmao you really are retarded, please give examples of their similarities

Use a VPN.

The world outside of the EU considers the EU leftist, but you keep arguing against it.
It's literally relative, and it's not a view isolated to the US.
Asians share the view as well.
>Lmao you really are retarded, please give examples of their similarities
Both governments were infiltrated by communists, and the nation's have been subverted.

We won‘t start World War 3, we‘ll start the World Purge and finally make the whole planet aryan. And this time, we won‘t lose, because we won‘t trust anyone beside Japan. Our only and true companion that did not betray us like these fucked up spaghetti faggots

>We won‘t start World War 3, we‘ll start the World Purge and finally make the whole planet aryan.
Nah. You'll just lose again. You guys would probably end up permanently Russian this time.

Japan kind of dick the Nazis over during ww2 though.

France was Germany's best ally during that war, maybe you should trade the nips out for the frogs next time around.

You haven't given a single example of leftist policies they have while I've given ones that are pretty clearly tied to liberalism and (center-)right-wibg policies or ideals. Your argument is basically "it's all relative, so they're leftist if I want them to be". It would be same ad me claiming the US Republican party is authoritarian communists. "Well it's all relative", fuck off. There's certain generally agreed upon identifiers for left and right, not to mention smaller groups like communists. Also, who are these communists who infiltrated the EU? They're doing a piss poor job since the EU is still moving forward with free trade, capitalism and whatnot.

You've given enough examples already Fidel.

Well it is kind of all relative.

>when Americans start talking about 'liberals'

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>When liberals admit to liberals, but claim right wingedness

Hurr durr we just favor left wing agendas, but it's amazingly right wing, or I've been told after they passed shit without letting me vote about it.
They also gave me potato, so can't complain.

Banning manufacturers from making gas or diesel vehicles?

Taking lead out of solder in electronics just because europoors can't stop eating them?

Revolution

Based Yurop basically mandated USB as universal mobile charger. And if that's communism*, sign me up Comrade
>*its actually commonsense, but Murica (for example) has no effective legislature to rule such a US-wide change

Nice to see someone finally admit they were wrong. It's pretty rare here, people will endlessly try to argue even though they don't have any arguments. They'll try to get out of giving solid answers and just spouting nonsense.
There are some commonly agreed upon identifiers for left and right though. The left generally does this and that and the right this and that. Though what specific forms the parties take in each country differs.
In the US "liberalism" seems to be just an another term for "left-wing", which is confusing because in Europe at least it describes more free market capitalists. Though America's influence on the term can be seen also.
>Banning manufacturers from making gas or diesel vehicles?
Source? Because I've only heard of some countries going forward with this, not the EU
>Taking lead out of solder in electronics just because europoors can't stop eating them?
Now this is an actual directive. But is banning hazardous materials a leftist policy? I'm fine with it being one, but do you think this example outweights the overall ideals and goals of EU, which are solidly liberal and pro free trade and whatnot?

>Nice to see someone finally admit they were wrong.
But you haven't yet, and might I remind you that you're autistically arguing against a statement that only stated a perception shared internationally. Also you yourself gave enough reasons tthat proved yourself wrong if the argument was even what you wanted it to be.
You should stay on Jow Forums, or on Jow Forums if your els is this bad.

>There are some commonly agreed upon identifiers for left and right though. The left generally does this and that and the right this and that. Though what specific forms the parties take in each country differs.
Are socialist gibs, and pro immigration right wing, or left wing?

>ESL
The EU's internet defence army is real.

I was mistaken about the gas vehicles.

But banning leadded solder makes it more complicated to make and recycle gadgets and repair them as well as cause faults (like the Xbox rrod).

It wasn't a benefit to industries or anyone, it was just an arbitrary law to make them look good and green.

>But you haven't yet
Well yeah, of course I haven't
>Also you yourself gave enough reasons tthat proved yourself wrong
Such as? Because you've given no good arguments to convince anyone the EU was leftist and even now rely on some ass-backwards logic to try and claim my arguments (the EU being pro free market, capitalism etc) somehow work in favour of them being leftist. It's honestly puzzling, but it's nice to see you value my arguments, even though I'm not sure you fully understand them.
Now it's my turn to be confused. I'm not sure what you're asking. Socialists would be left-wing, but there aren't many socialists in rule in EU or the member governments. Even PES, despite the name, is social democrat and not socialist. Center-right EPP has held much of the power for a long time. Immigration isn't really a left vs. right issue, with there being pro and anti parties on both sides. Does that answer your question?

>Well yeah, of course I haven't
You should though. You've literally said being a leftist socialist commie is right wing as you completely misunderstood the op that you are arguing against.
>Now it's my turn to be confused
You've been confused this whole time.
Being subverted does that to a person.
>Socialists would be left-wing, but there aren't many socialists in rule in EU or the member governments.
Yet they keep constantly green light Socialist policies.
Why are right wingers doing this?
Well maybe it's, because there was a huge shift towards the left, and being right wing was pulled closer to the left overall.

>You've literally said being a leftist socialist commie is right wing
You're getting delirious, are you sure you should continue arguing about this?
>You've been confused this whole time.
I'm confused how some people are insane enough to think a huge pro free market, pro capitalism, pro free trade organization is somehow leftist and "basically Venezuela" and other insane shit like that.
>Yet they keep constantly green light Socialist policies.
Such as? How hard is it to give solid examples on how the EU is leftist, since you seem to think it's so evident? I'm genuinely curious because the EU seems to operate on solidly right-wing liberal ideals of free market, free trade and capitalism, so what sort of huge left-wing policies or ideals are they operating on that it would make any sense to claim the EU as a whole is leftist?

>You're getting delirious
Your past posts are still viewable Fidel.
>I'm confused how some people are insane enough to think a huge pro free market, pro capitalism, pro free trade organization is somehow leftist and "basically Venezuela" and other insane shit like that.
Reassess EU policies, and compare them with Venezuela. Your governing body has been infiltrated.
>How hard is it to give solid examples on how the EU is leftist,
How many times do anons have to mention gubment gibs, redistribution of wealth (only middle class wealth though) and migrants.

I wouldn't call it leftist but neoliberal, which is just as bad because you get the worst of socialism and small government advocation.

>gave out house to immigrsnts, so they could live in it rent free, and with a sizeable monthly allowance
>Is right wing

There is no hope for this country, the elite are screwed and the people are getting fuck on a daily basis but still ask for more... honestly, just run away !

Nothing is working...
Electricity expensive, because they import it. And their grid and transfos are so crap that you have fuse in your wall sockets... (big joke).
Water is fine tho, but they cannot into hot water and use third world country solution with instant heater.
Houses where build by fags who cannot into engineering so the are under insulated and heat just go away. So you over use your heating system.
Trash collection does not exist, cities looks like shit, just walk for 2 minutes and found dozen of cans and burger boxes
Cells tower are crap and if you are 1m from a window there is no signal. But you still have to pay 20ppm for this.
Public transport is really expensive and almost never on time. First time of my life I saw a train from the 50s still in use.
Privacy... just a joke, but as long as you have an internet connection, this concept become a meme...
And I could go like this for a lot of other things
But hey, it is fine it is one of the richest country in the world yay \o/

They could have been like japan as they are an island and use a economic system closer to conservative/country focus/capitalism where ppl respect each other and service for everyone is ok.
But they decide to go toward a liberal/globalist/capitalism so the top "wealthiest" part of the country have access to the best service ever, while the everybody else pay for them and just survive in there own trash...

>tl;dr
>being yuropean in the uk

>Your past posts are still viewable Fidel.
I disagree with you so I'm literally a communist. Nice.
>Reassess EU policies, and compare them with Venezuela
Please give actual examples, as I've done.
>gubment gibs, redistribution of wealth
Can you show EU policies that govern those? Because welfare and taxation are member state things AFAIK and not governed by the EU. So I'm not sure how they're relevant.
>migrants
Not a left-right thing. The center-right has been accepting of immigrants on the grounds of economic benefits and many left-wing parties have opposed them because their voter base of working class people feel threatened by immigration.
It has been described as neoliberal, though I'm not sure what neoliberalism has to do with socialism
If you think immigration is the dividing line between left and right, you're way off. Many right-wingers, especially center-right are pro immigration

If you got some problem with our fused plugs, Pal, find yourself another damn country to live in

just liberal are pro immigration, because it helps the economy bringing cheap work force and mixing up the caucasian race

it is fine, i ll leave in 1 year ;)
I just though you guys where in the 21th century, but when I realize you where stuck in the 20th century... feels bad thats all

>thinking that the VPN provider either isn't snooping or isn't compromised.
VPN is only good for watching foreign TV.

>I disagree with you so I'm literally a communist.
Actually you disagree with my post which claimed that the rest of the world considers the EU to be leftist centrist, and then attempted to right wingafy govment gibs, an shit.
>Can you show EU policies that govern those? Because welfare and taxation are member state things AFAIK and not governed by the EU. So I'm not sure how they're relevant.
Have you been diagnosed with brain problems? You seem like you have had been.
>Not a left-right thing. The center-right has been accepting of immigrants on the grounds of economic benefits and many left-wing parties have opposed them because their voter base of working class people feel threatened by immigration.
The center right had been doing this... Well maybe they aren't quite"right" at fucking all you dumb faggot.
...
Fucking euroshit education, anf ESL everyone.

This thread.
>>Jow Forums

fucking sliders

what you, Dutch, Austrian?
Don't disagree with (most) of your summary either, just trying to guess where from, trains on time is a bit German, but, having lived there, dont recall electricity being particularly cheap either. But fused plugs, just, leave the plugs out of it, OK?

from nuclear farm land, and baton bread ;)

If someone thinks the EU is a leftist organization, then they are showing a thorough lack of understanding of the concepts of left and right.
>Have you been diagnosed with brain problems? You seem like you have had been.
You do know that the EU and member states govern different things, right? Not all EU countries are Nordic social democracies and so on. Seems kinda strange to claim the EU is leftist based on something they don't even handle.
>Well maybe they aren't quite"right" at fucking all you dumb faggot.
>the center-right isn't right
lmao riiiight

>because they import it
should have guessed ;) but, as you didn't mention food.. obv. our Fine Bong Cuisine agrees with you

is food technology ?
idk :D

>liberal
This is leftist
>free trade
Taxes are leftist. Monitored and regulated trade is totalitarianism to begin with.
Citizens can't vote on anything, power is given to self elected politicians.
Countries who don't wish to get into EU are literally brainwashed into thinking it's a good idea by corrupt media, EU criticism is completely censored and countries don't even need a large majority of their people to vote for EU to get in.
Muh refugees propaganda is everywhere, media completely censored the fact that there was a mass rapefest in Germany where thousands of women got raped and some murdered by Muslims. Some retarded politician's daughter got raped and he denied it and still shilled for muh refugees.
There's anti-trump propaganda in every fucking store in Germany for whatever reason despite him being the least retarded president of US in the last 3 decades.
Any politician who even mentions reducing taxes, implementing better free trade and taking power away from (((3rd party banks))) gets spit on and censored.
All smaller and poor countries are just German puppet states.
EU is definitely doing a fuck ton of brainwashing and censorship. It's basically Reich.

I'm European and consider EU a totalitarian and leftist shithole. I'm not saying it's worse than US/England/Australia, but it's not amazing either.

what, this is Jow Forums?
>looks up
oh. right, as you were, back to Tech lads

>trains on time is a bit German
lmao

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>try uk
>one train per hour to go back home,
>two cancelled in a row
>signalization pb
>next one tomorrow morning
>10kg luggage to carry for 50km
Hopefully taxi driver kind enough helped me for half the price of ride...
I did not used uber, no privacy issue :D

Liberalism in European definition isn't leftist.
>Taxes are leftist
"The EU does not have a direct role in raising taxes or setting tax rates. The amount of tax you pay is decided by your government, not the EU."
>Monitored and regulated trade is totalitarianism to begin with.
The EU is has much improved the situation on that front, promoting free trade and other single market policies to remove barriers to trade between EU countries.
>Citizens can't vote on anything
EU parliament is directly elected by EU voters. European Council is made up of heads of state or government, who are decided on by the people of the member state directly or indirectly. Council of the European Union is made up of national government ministers. European Commission is more complicated, but it's decided on by European Council and MEPs.
>EU criticism is completely censored
There's a lot of media critical of the EU that get plenty of airtime, so I'm not sure what you're on about
>countries don't even need a large majority of their people to vote for EU to get in.
Well that's how majority decisions often work. See Brexit for example, 51.9% supported it and it won.
>media completely censored the fact that there was a mass rapefest in Germany
It was major news, so again, not sure what you're on about
>All smaller and poor countries are just German puppet states.
lmao what? The big three certainly have a lot lf power, but calling everyone else a puppet state is pretty ridiculous.
>I'm European and consider EU a totalitarian and leftist shithole. I'm not saying it's worse than US/England/Australia, but it's not amazing either.
Do you consider the US to be a totalitarian leftist shithole or do you mean that despite being one, the EU isn't worse than the US?

>slight snow
>trains fully canceled
>special busses replacing train traffic
>get squashed in bus
>i_dont_need_personal_space_anyway.jpg
>bus stuck in traffic for an hour
>bus doesn't even go where the train was
>have walk 20 mins to uni

I should get a car...

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>It was major news
It wasn't. It was on a single fucking website that I know of and wasn't talked about anywhere else in Europe. Nobody I know knew that it happened until I told them. People who know don't care and still accept refugees and the inevitable economic downfall.
>calling everyone else a puppet state is pretty ridiculous.
>he says this while there are countries which don't even have non-German banks

If you're talking about the New Years thing, it was big international news. Is that what you're talking about?
>>he says this while there are countries which don't even have non-German banks
Are German banks a sign of being a puppet state? Aren't there German banks in the US?

about the news it is quite simple to follow:
big happening
does it help the joowish propaganda ?
Yes > make titles about
No > do not talk about it

>US
Has it's own banks and isn't 100% German-dependent.

Bongland is Northern Pakistan at this point so who gives a shit.

>What neoliberalism has to do with socialism?
More intrusion on people's personal lives (can't buy 10 pack of cigs in EU) and more regulations that hinder business.

They want a small government, but still want to tell you how to live your life.

>3% Pakistani