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CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti | If you can't afford to spend 350 dollar on a CPU go with AMD. >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3400CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices for older, less demanding or very well optimized titles >RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb vram only good for 1080p or as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega56 1440p >RTX 2070; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 ONLY if on sale >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
i was waiting for navi , but since it wont come out until october i cant keep waiting forever ... do you think a 580 should be good enough for world of warcraft at 1440p?
Benjamin Reed
Old school MMOs usually care about CPU speed more than GPU power I thought.
Ian Russell
Not really. Nvidia is historically better for WoW if that's all you care about and the 1660Ti should launch next weekend.
Jose Carter
amd shills are awake already
Luke Powell
My PSU is from 2006 and working fine. I made a mistake of reading a forum with stories relating catastrophic PSU failures that fry other components and now I am scared. Should I upgrade or man up?
Isaiah Bell
Did you get a shit/Chinese PSU? Most decent PSUs are built well enough to not fry other components when they die and will just pop a fuse or just not power on.
1080 ti + triple 1440p monitors. 2@60hz, 1@165hz g sync. Will I notice slowdowns on the gsync monitor when gaming if all 3 are on?
Cameron Sanders
Yes
Caleb Ramirez
Came from an RX 570 and was in the same situation. My 2060 came with a key for Anthem which I sold for 30€ and a 20€ Steam voucher so I basically paid 320€ for mine and I doubt a Navi equivalent will be significantly cheaper.
Noah Gray
I doubt there would be much performance loss if there is little going on graphics wise on the sub screens. Right now my 1080ti is at 0% usage with 2 1080p screens, 1 at 144hz one at 60hz.
Gavin Rogers
try it out
Ryan Barnes
I doubt that that's even possible. I'm not gaming on a dual monitor setup but G-Sync seems to be incredibly stubborn when it comes to multi-monitor setups. If I don't run a game at fullscreen I get crazy stutters and jitter.
Sebastian Sanders
>How else are you going to prevent tearing when your GPU wants to push out higher fps? I thought that's what gsync/freesync were for, honestly. No tearing without vsync seemed like the biggest selling point to me, and I just assumed it'd apply to the common 60fps/60hz case. >I've been out of the loop for awhile, but don't nvidia cards with for Freesync now. Is there any reason to only look at gsync monitors now? I read that it was only a couple of monitors but yeah looks like that's not really the case. Thanks
Luis Sanders
Right now I have 1x 1440p 165Hz Gsync and 2x 1080p 60Hz. It works like that. The new 1440p 60Hz monitors will be here on Sunday
Gavin Adams
Wait does he want to run Gsync on all 3? Or does he mean the one that has Gsync if the other two are turned on, with no gsync?
I am confused.
Liam Reyes
Just on one. They are this: S2417DG, P2418D, P2418D
Oliver Turner
I believe the latter. I'm not sure if it works but why the fuck would you even want to play on a setup like that. Two different refresh rates across three monitors seems to be incredibly jarring, to me at least.
Xavier Sanchez
anyone here run a dual monitor setup with a tn panel for gayming and a ips panel for other stuff? was wondering if this setup would be the best compromise to get best of both worlds
Caleb Fisher
There's like a million options for mice, but when it comes to budget keyboards you should look into cheap Chinese boards with Cherry MX knockoffs (which are every bit as good as genuine ones). E-Element and Magicforce are really solid brands.
Jose Young
What's a good keyboard/mouse combination for about $150 CAD?
I'm not against some more out there gaymur shit that I can set keybinds to
Ryder Gonzalez
See
Dominic Stewart
Thanks dude, what should I look for as far as specs go?
Dominic Davis
I only game on the one screen but I need 3 screens for work. I upgraded the gaming one to 1440p G Sync and aside from gaming it's so much better for work that I've decided to upgrade the other two also, I just don't need G Sync on the other two.
Yes. Here. I'm discussing this very thing as it's what I have right now. It works well for me.
Daniel Roberts
I'd get an expensive IPS/VA and a cheap portrait IPS. Just try various stuff and return it if you don't like it.
I have this one. It has all the bells and whistles that more expensive boards from Corsair and co. also have. N-Key rollover, RGB, and a decent build quality. Just keep in mind that it has very gamery legends and while I do like the tactility of blue switches it can be incredibly annoying for other people when you're on discord and don't use push to talk. Other than that there's literally nothing wrong with it. It's even hotswappable and comes with 5 extra keyswitches so if one of them dies on you just swap em out. Also really like the compact layout since it's more ergonomic for gaymen, especially FPS.
Ryan Morris
how expensive? i'd like to stay under 600 euros per monitor if possible
Nolan Lewis
I wouldn't recommend expensive ass gaming monitors with AU Optronics AHVA panels. The QC is beyond sketchy and you might end up returning a dozen of them until you get one with acceptable backlight bleed/IPS glow. Just get a much cheaper VA panel with 144hz and freesync and call it a day. Black levels are much more important for gaming.
Eli Hughes
Depends on the specs you're looking for. 27" 1440p 144hz IPS is about €500. VA equivalents are about the same if want to avoid the IPS panel lottery. I'd get a ~€150 IPS monitor and use it as portrait for browsing, but that's up to you.
Josiah Murphy
What would you guys choose for 1440p gaming, 2080 or 2070?
it is a viable option in some regions desu, if it's not out of stock where i live they go for 50 bucks cheaper than the cheapest 2080
Jonathan Jones
When you guys sell parts how much do you sell them for, do you just see how much others are selling for and go off that or what?
David Price
wait you said navi, nvm my dumbass thought it was radeon VII
Luke Mitchell
Nice, but I'm sure your friends from 2022 are missing you.
Jose Miller
Thank you senpai ~
Adam Johnson
They're both good. Get something like the XB271HU with it. I'd pick the 2080
Grayson Richardson
Is it viable to build a mini-ATX that can handle 1070 + Ryzen 7 while not being loud AF?
Aiden Gonzalez
All VA 144hz panels are curved shit black levels are not more important, games have all sorts of colors, you don't stare at pitch black all the time. You talk like an OLEDnigger my local store had about ten XB271HUs in stock so I just bought one and tested it out in front of them, so that if it had any problems I could switch it with another. If you're the type to miss out on the best, get VA. Otherwise man up and buy the IPS panels, they are unmatched.
is the Acer Nitro XV272UP a decent monitor i can't find any reviews for it
Dominic Nguyen
Nice amd shill thread. Pcbg is for building pcs not trying to pump your amd stock price
Austin Morales
What kind of retard did you sell the code to? You need an RTX graphics card installed for GayFarce Experience to accept the code.
Bentley Myers
Ok its about time i upgrade my gtx 670. If i only play 1080p, i should be ok with rtx 2060 and it's 6gb vram for a few years right?
Or is it worth paying 30€ more for 1070 ti?
Angel Turner
I don't play AAA games but I recently tried a high refresh monitor and I can't believe I've never went for them. The question is: do I stay with 1080p and go for high refresh there or do I upgrade the resolution as well? Resolution bump doesn't sound too bad considering it will help with viewing larger images and a better fit for two side windows, but other than those, I see no immediate benefit. Emulation should become harder and I might get screwed on streaming. Pic related don't look too bad, especially the AOC one. I don't like how huge these are, however. The largest monitor I have right now is only 24 american centimeters.
If you are okay with feeling like a cuck, paying premium prices for 6 GB of VRAM, then get the 2060. If you don't trust professional benchmarkers and tech journalists in saying that the 6 GB of VRAM is fast enuff and the memory allocation yadda yadda, then 1070 Ti.
Kevin Carter
Yes, micro-ATX, I got confused looking at ITX stuff in the other tab.
Could you suggest what parts should I look into? My goal is to have a system that could carry me for 3-4 years of 1080p gaming, I will most probably be working though backlog of older titles, so if new ones will only run smoothly on high is fine enough by me. My idea was to get Ryzen 7/1070GTX/32RAM which seems to be most optimal performance-wise.
The caveat here is that I am not gaming 24/7, so having a smaller power-draw on idle would be great. Maybe I should look into Intel chips with integrated GPU?
You're on the right track. Consider assembling a pcpartpicker list and submitting it here so we can be more helpful on specific points. Any CPU will do if you invest in a dense enough heatsink so your fans don't have to run at audible levels.
Oliver Hernandez
Get an X470 board instead. Might help with future upgrades.
Juan Rodriguez
Why radeon vii not listed? It's literally the best price/performance on my workload, and the most sensible choice.
Camden Perry
Practically no availability?
David Scott
because this thread is actually /v/ and no one here cares about opencl performance
B450 will be find with 8 core zen2 since it handles 2700x of fine
The 12 cores will require a good b450 board like the MSI tomahawk/pro carbon
X470 is a waste of money
Gavin Evans
It's barely more expensive you mong
Jaxon Hughes
So i5-8400 is still the king if you want to game with style. Right?
Juan Richardson
>no one here cares about opencl performance >caring about openCL performance Why would they when CUDA exists.
Christopher Hill
I was also looking at the x470 gaming plus, but it looks like it's the same motherboard as the tomahawk in regards to cooling and vrms .. maybe I'm wrong? Please explain
Juan Taylor
>Flying off of the shelves is a bad thing seething nvidiot
Jackson Wilson
X470 is updated for the 2000 series cpus, it will also be able to use the incoming 3000 series cpus. Its barely any price difference, and you get the most updated mobos and in time if you want to upgrade, chances are you can.
Angel Anderson
Nah, you don't.
Robert Gutierrez
What? I meant it wasn't there because you can't buy it anywhere. Cease you side mentality bullshit.
Cameron Thomas
$180 for 2600x is really nice, don't listen to that guy, b450 tomahawk is more than capable
Tyler Sanchez
>I meant it wasn't there because you can't buy it anywhere. Dumb nvidiot thinks that being sold out us a bad. Go to bed jensen jacket man.
Brayden Taylor
What do you mean by this? The b450 won't get updated for ryzen 3000?
>know 9700k is the more responsible choice >still want to spend the extra for 9900k just to see all those threads rev up for the few times I'm doing non-gaming workloads