My dad wiretapped the house, he bought 6 of these sonos speakers, and they all have Wi-Fi/internet capability and microphones. I told him that these speakers are spying on us, but he said he turned the microphones off, so that it's not. He says he doesn't use the microphones, and that he just wants to play music from his tablet.
However, I don't believe it works that way -- I think it's always on, always listening, even if you turn it "off". Truth is, none of us know, because it's closed source -- which also means that Sonos has something to hide, and something to fear. >tldr Does taping the microphone with bounty paper work? Are there more microphones on this thing?
I've unplugged the others, but that'll anger my dad. I don't think he'll mind if I tape the whole top, since he connects to these with his tablet anyways.
Open it up and remove the microphone. Easiest and only solution.
Parker Thomas
>Does taping the microphone with bounty paper work? Have you tried triggering the wake words now that you taped it?
Nolan Jones
Move out, they got you already.
Lucas Cox
desolder you mong
Xavier Perry
>Truth is, none of us know, because it's closed source -- which also means that Sonos has something to hide, and something to fear. or they don't want some spaghetti coding neck beard to fuck it up
Nathaniel Lee
open it and snip the red wire leading to the mic (make sure its unplugged first)
William James
>I HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME >COME ON GIVE ME THAT SOURCE CODE NOTHING TO HIDE NOTHING TO FEAR
Logan Hernandez
This.
Austin Bailey
Up until around the early to mid 80s, it was the norm to recieve the source code to any software you bought, video games excluded.
Logan Fisher
if op does that they might get a hardware error. replace it with a 3.5mm then run an auxchord into it that plays korean porn audio.
Christian Butler
or he could just put a resistor over it so some voltage is passed through.
Leo Morgan
Move out? It's his house
Lincoln Gray
Can't open it, it's all soldered together. It's not like a thinkpad where you can take it apart and pull out whatever you don't like. There are no screws, nothing. I'm not sure what the wake words are. I'll have to try this with my dad. Wish I can, but I have 2 more years of city college left before I can do that. >>darktrip I do not give (you)'s to tripcodes. What do you know about privacy/anonymity anyways? t. Schlomo Eli Goldberg Pic related
>Can't open it, it's all soldered together. It's not like a thinkpad where you can take it apart and pull out whatever you don't like. There are no screws, nothing. Are you sure there are no screws? Are there any rubber feet or rubber pads? They hide screws under all kinds of plastic, rubber, logos, and stuff. The case might be welded, but there will still be clips to hold it in place before the welding happened, and glue never hurts either in these situations. Also, the case might be glued shut anyways, and only needs some heat like a hair dryer on highest heat slowest fan to melt the glue enough to peel the case open. I really doubt it's welded though because it requires a machine vibrating the pieces at ultrasonic frequencies to heat them up for the plastic to melt together. It's probably glued that you can open using heat.
Jose Gray
You are absolutely right! There are screws under the rubber feet. However they are strangely shaped, they look like the Star of David (Jewish religious symbol), and all I have is Phillips head and flathead screwdrivers. I'm not sure what kind of screws these are.
what kind of stupid retarded destructor of property are you? I would kick you out on your stupid zoomer ass if you fucked with my speakers.
Jayden Flores
>those are hex screws gas yourself you couldn't be more wrong
Xavier King
>they look like the Star of David (Jewish religious symbol) Fuckin hell dude, I'm not particularly fond of da joos but if you think even torx screws are Jewish you might have to reconsider some things.
>if you think even torx screws are Jewish then what is the point of making torx screws? isn't the point to deter someone from opening the device by means of an uncommon fastener? Using anything other than phillips or flat blade screw drivers is an attempt to make it more difficult to unscrew a fastener. there can be no other explanation.
so, yes, using torx on a device you bought is a jewing of the consumer
Owen Evans
What kind of brain-dead fucking retard doesn't have a Torx screwdriver in 2019? I have four sets of Torx bits and don't even open up any electronics. You can literally collect them by accident. What's wrong with you?
what? do you speak your actions out loud or something? >TIME TO WATCH SOME ILLEGAL PORNOGRAPHY
William Hernandez
Next time you take the rubber feet off, use some heat to melt the glue holding them in place first. Now just get a screwdriver and open that thing up.
Xavier Sanchez
>I don't do anything illegal... >...therefore I should let any random unaccountable employee of some two-bit American company listen to every word I say whenever they feel like it Fucking normalfags, I swear.
Juan Richardson
sonos does sound jewish
Lucas Barnes
Please read: I used my fingernails and it got off, sticks back in decent enough. But for next time, I'll try that. Yes, for now I just need to go out and buy the torx screwdriver.
I've seen these screws on other people's macbooks but I've never owned something that has this kind of thing.
Levi Flores
Have fun. Make sure you take out the battery first before opening it up.
Henry Morgan
These things arent as complex as Alexa or Google home, hence why they need the internet to connect to their servers and run the Alexa software. I have one of them and I just don't leave it connected to the Alexa services, and I can still play music anywhere in the house from my phone
Play music or white noise at the maximum volume 24/7
Kayden Richardson
you people do know they exist because they won't strip if they're over-torqued, right?
Justin Nguyen
why would that be relevant? automated machines in factories have torque settings the fastener is chosen to deter consumers from opening them
Lucas Carter
if they are tethered to an android it is the same fullproof way is to desolder microphone and add a physical switch
Cooper Evans
Move out. Duh.
Christian Morgan
>they look like the Star of David (Jewish religious symbol), and all I have is Phillips head and flathead screwdrivers Why does Jow Forums insist on shitting up this board?
all your phones and computers are listening too I say hello to my friends at the NSA and Google all the time.
by the way, since you can read this message, agent: get bent
Caleb Mitchell
You can use a slot screwdriver if it is long enough to fill at least two of the arms of the torx. Just be careful to not strip it when tightening / loosening.
Benjamin Thompson
>buying this contraption just for the wireless audio are amerifats too retarded for a simple BT speaker?
Wyatt Morris
The fastener actually makes it easier to remove and replace them. If you've ever disassembled electronics before (and why would you, you're a paranoid moron scared of a fucking bluetooth speaker), you find thast Phillips often strip in the small sizes needed, and there are differences between US and Japanese style +-head screws and if you have the wrong driver you can kiss those finely machined slots and your ability to open the product goodbye.
Torx is logical smooth sailing and as long as the driver is the right size you can always turn them and they will not strip, and they handle more torque than any comparable Phillips head. It's literally the least Jewish fastener imaginable. The only thing better are those combo Torx/flathead machine screws that Compaq used to use.
Parker Long
stop wasting your time
an speaker and microphone share the same structure, pic related
the speaker uses the magnet to make vibrations (sound)
a microphone measures vibrations (sound) entering with the magnet
with the right software you can use any speaker as a microphone as long as it's not playing sound
of course it's not as efficient or clear, but good enough to understand your voice
so any device that has speakers, any TV, computer, laptop, cellphone, stereo, as long as it's connected to the internet can spy on you
this, if people want to listen to you, they are already doing so. In fact, you might be being listened to even if you aren't actually doing anything wrong or suspicious, but that's more than likely not _your_ government, but an independent actor or another state testing a payload and they don't really give a fuck about you particularly.
honestly unless you are cooking meth or evading taxes if anyone is listening to you at all they literally do not care and are just waiting for you to go off the deep end of the morality scale so they can say they did their job. the deep state runs on people too ya know.
Jacob Foster
Speakers can easily be used as a mic, by the way. The only solution is to never have hardware you don't have full access to in your home, or at least none with internet access.
Nathaniel Sanders
really the problem here is that Phillips is an abomination that should have been taken out back and shot years ago. It only exists because ancient 1960s power drills would damage themselves if they seized, so it was better to let the bit cam out and/or ream out the screw head, instead of blowing up the drill's motor. This hasn't been relevant for decades now but those goddamned screws had wormed their way into everything and we're still putting up with their shit.
Anyway, why has nobody suggested sniffing the network traffic? If OP controls the router (which might be an over-generous assumption) he's a few tcpdumps away from seeing exactly what if any traffic is emanating from those things and when, and blocking them if he doesn't like it. Usually you don't even need to bother with a firewall, breaking the thing's DNS is enough.
Nicholas James
Use a white noise maker, you can get one that barely sounds like anything but it drowns out your voice from microphones.
David Martinez
>Phillips often strip in the small sizes needed bullshit use the correct size bit and that won't happen. people always use too small of a bit and goober up the head and I'm a fucking boomer who has taken apart more shit than you ever will
these speakers are shit consumer electronics when you return them, the Sonos isn't going to waste a single man-second working on repairing it. they just toss them in the junk pile and they get crushed for recycling. so whatever point you are trying to make about serviceability is null and void. the use of torx in this application is only to deter consumers from opening them.
Julian Mitchell
>you find thast Phillips often strip in the small sizes needed
That's because you're using the wrong size Philips head. ie: PH1 isn't compatible with PH2.
It is one of the things that make Philips a shit system. - I do agree with you that Torx is much nicer, though it also gets points deducted for requiring different tools/bits for different sizes.
Holy shit I could only make it through 3 of your autist posts. You are fucking retarded. Please end your life. Pro tip its called a security screw driver set.
Sebastian Butler
>calls torx "Star of David (Jewish religious symbol)" Kek, scrizo, you have not got enough knowledge to fix it, or interesting enough to be spied on.
Don't make your daddy sad, he already has an autist kid to deal with, don't be a scrizo autist kid. Remove the tape, wipe off the residue, and make your daddy a good night sleep, let him think, even just for one night, that he has a normal son, that he can be proud of
James Phillips
go on...
Jose Morgan
>they look like the Star of David (Jewish religious symbol) the absolute state of Jow Forums
Tyler Barnes
Because he probably isn't standing right in front of it. He has six probably walks around the house and listens.
> I told him that these speakers are spying on us, but he said he turned the microphones off, so that it's not. He says he doesn't use the microphones, and that he just wants to play music from his tablet. Your dad is kind of a complete jackass
Adam Lopez
What about your smartphone
Cooper Campbell
>they look like the Star of David (Jewish religious symbol),
Are they connected to the internet? All you have to do is use wireshark and watch what it does, or setup a firewall to ban the I.P.s they are using. Also could use a RF SDR to monitor if it's sending anything via radio waves. The easiest solution is remove microphone, but then any speaker can be used as a crude microphone.
Easton Phillips
>However they are strangely shaped, they look like the Star of David what a coincidence
If they have a microphone input you only need a 3.5 jack head with no cable attached to it. I have a few of them kicking around for muting devices.
Jonathan Flores
you're ahead of your time user
Levi Foster
>He thinks he is important enough to listen to. Buddy i think you should deflate your ego a bit. Come back when you have Trumps nigger tape level of state secrets then you get to be paranoid ma dude.
Eli Miller
Ignorant pre-farmer generation parents are absolutely godawful for any kind of digital security. They're like walking talking security vulnerabilities. You can do nothing but move out and pay for your own shit.
Jace White
The audio is being worked through by voice-recognition AI. People are not listening to you. What do you think this is, a 1960s crime movie?
>they put in torx security screws >they think they jewed me >i jew them and use a flat screw driver to snap the little stud off their ((cheap)) chink screws >mfw
>screws shaped like star of david Throw that jew trash out of your house
Brandon Hernandez
Somebody should post this stuff in the Jow Forums humor thread
Robert Robinson
torx makes thing easier to repair, because they don't wear out like philips do, and they don't fucking suck like flatheads do if you want "keeps people out", you're thinking of security torx (which is the same but has a "fuck you" pin in the middle so normal torx drivers don't fit)
Joshua Scott
Are you retarded? Dont fuck with other peoples things. If your dad want to join the botnet in his own house let him, get a job a move out kid. Why not create a subnet for the speakers on your network and restrict there access to the net. You could just stick a pin in the mic hole?
Asher Barnes
>literally screwed by the jew
Hudson Hughes
>wont strip Youve never dealt with torx before have you? >square drive is best drive.
Joseph Hall
>Jew screws
Fucking dead.
Jose Stewart
>55 Dubs say that torx is the screw of the Jew, so it must be true...
Samuel Miller
Snip your and your dad's scrotal cabling. Problem solved.
Eli Johnson
>they look like the Star of David fucking KEK this is one of the best posts I've seen on her
