Buyer's remorse thread

>Awful Linux/Unix support
>Trackpad is unusable in Linux, randomly stops and starts
>Shit gets wedged between the matte screen and borders
>Egregious backlight bleeding
>Blown pixels after a year
>Plastic on keyboard is so thin and cheap you can see the rubber dome through the backlight
>WiFi card needed to be replaced day one
>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
>Stupid webcam placement
>$1000 STARTING price
Typical Dell shit. Why are Apple the only American company that can manufacture a halfway decent laptop?

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1989 Tiananmen.

I was eyeing one. I guess you saved me some shekles and troubleshooting nightmare.
What's ideal laptop that has a footprint of about an A4 paper sheet?
Convertibles may also applied as long as they can run Linux

>Buying Dell
you deserved it

If you brought Thinkpad or Dell latitude instead of trending shit this wouldn't happen

look at thinkpad 480s. If not for the fact it has 1 of the 2 ram slot soldered, it would be my go-to choice

Just get a used x220 with an i7 you consumerist pig. If you look around on ebay you can get them super cheap. I put 16gb ram and a 120gb SSD in mine, and upgraded the wireless card, all for $240. The frame does have a crack in it that i repaired with epoxy so that's why mine was extra cheap.

Got a Yoga 530 with ryzen and stylus.
> wifi needs a custom kernel module
> touchpad and screen need another custom i2c driver
Aside from that, it's breddy gud with gentoo. Especially for 700 Eurobux.

Thinkpad X2xx / T4xx / T5xx

Pick between the 3
Then find something that meets your reqs / budget.

X250/T450 = good balance of modern + cheap used

XPS is consumer shit. I've been using Latitudes for about a decade and they're tanks. Too bad they ditched the 6000 series, the 7000 series are ultrabook shit, and the 5000 series has worse build quality and design. The 6000s are fucking tanks, and only loses to Thinkpads in aftermarket support.

not on my machine™

I don't want to be a cunt but what did you expect when you bought a DELL machine?

laptops in general are a mistake - why? fan noise among other things

This but unironically.
Laptops should be cheap low power, passively cooled portable devices.
For everything else there's a desktop.

so desktop computers have no fan noise?

depend how you set it
i member the bentium 4 i had with shitty case and incel's cooler and cheap psu, that was in 2003 when the dollar was kang and for us parts WERE expensive (you muricans know nothing)
nowadays you have options, plethora of retailers parts etc, if it sucks and you don't like it - you made it

Dell sells laptops with Linux pre-installed. If you're going to buy a Windows computer solely for the purpose of putting *Nix/BSD on it, do some research first.
Buy a Dell that comes with Ubuntu, or buy a System76 to avoid the headache.
Otherwise, if you need a recommendation, the Lenovo Flex 3 1570 has a beautiful 15" monitor, back-lit keys, and everything works out of the box.

>X250/T450
Why would you recommend slow shit with Intel Ultra Low Power processors?
Anything after T440p was a mistake

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This, or track down an older model to save money. Don't be too pressured to get the latest and "greatest". My T460 was great when it was brand new, and still is today. I'm sure one of those can't be too much money now, maybe still in-box.

God-tier battery life. I get easily over 20 hours with the bridged battery. Not gaming or anything, but I can work from home all day with it on at least 2 different days before needing to plug in the charger.

Can somebody explain the dichotomy here? Official reviews of the XPS never fail to rate it as one of the best laptops in existence. Meanwhile actual user reviews go on about constant hardware problems, overheating, trackpad issues, et cetera. Does Dell have the greatest PR firm in history or what?

I returned my XPS 13" .

Random lags, horrible camera and slow fingerprint reader.

Keyboard was okay, trackpad just completely sucks in general on PCs.

Also bad speakers and the screen is just too horizontal. Its really werid, you dont get shit from websites other then snipets of the page.

Youre literally forced to go fullscreen browser.

Customer tech reviews tend to be biased, because people with bad experiences are eager to shit on the product, while those satisfied don't bother reviewing

>buy used xps
>"save" a few hundred $
>still gets constant problems, but now you have no warranty
>most components can't even be swapped out

Buying used laptops is almost always a horrible idea. There's a reason why /tpg/ has those infographics specifying which versions of which models you should consider buying at what price.

I still love my XPS 15 9560. The camera placement isn't an issue for me since I cover it and never use it anyways.

My suggestion was mostly to find an older model still in-box. Lenovo releases new ones every year, and there's no way the older models all leave their boxes.

>Working from home
>not plugging in
Shiggy

you should not use your laptop unplugged of electricity if it is not necessary. You are just fucking up your battery.

Everytime I buy new headphones I have to return it a week later because of buyer's remorse, pic related my last JUST moment

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>Using laptop as a desktop

????

>using the battery fucks it up
Leaving the charger in all the time is even worse, especially since I can't remove the internal battery and leave it on the plug only. I can just order a new battery when it wears out idgaf.

>>Awful Linux/Unix support
Werks on my machine with Gentoo and Fedora.
>>Trackpad is unusable in Linux, randomly stops and starts
This appeared to only be a problem if I make extensive use of 4-finger gestures on X11, werks with Wayland for some reason.
>>Shit gets wedged between the matte screen and borders
Don't live like a pig.
>>Egregious backlight bleeding
Varies it seems, mine is fine
>>Blown pixels after a year
see above
>>Plastic on keyboard is so thin and cheap you can see the rubber dome through the backlight
What are you even talking about?
>>WiFi card needed to be replaced day one
Did you have a Broadcom one?
>>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
Knees weak, arms are heavy
>>Stupid webcam placement
>using the webcam at all
I agree it could've been placed differently, that being nowhere.
>>$1000 STARTING price
It's high-end thinshit with processing power no cheap chinkpad can match, of course it's crazy expensive.
Dell seems to be kinda hit or miss. I guess I never miss, huh?
Absolutely this. Best laptop I ever had.

>Leaving the charger on is even worse
If on Linux: Set battery threshold to 80% with tlp
If on Windows: Set battery threshold to 80% with Lenovo Vantage and set it to recharge on around 60-70%

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>Awful Linux/Unix support
Depends. I run Arch on my 9570 and it works fine. The biggest hassle with it is battery life. Every other kernel update tanks my battery life from 16 hours down to 5 and I have no idea why. The nvidia card is also a massive pain in the ass to work with because my specific model doesn’t work with bumblebee.
>Trackpad is unusable in Linux, randomly stops and starts
Never had this problem.
>Shit gets wedged between the matte screen and borders
This happens regularly, I have to carefully wedge it out with a pin.
>Egregious backlight bleeding
Never happened to me.
>Blown pixels after a year
See above.
>Plastic on keyboard is so thin and cheap you can see the rubber dome through the backlight
See above.
>WiFi card needed to be replaced day one
The killer WiFi card is shit, I’ll give you that.
>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
Maybe don’t rest your palms on the side of the keyboard.
>Stupid webcam placement
Agree.
>$1000 STARTING price
Given the power:size ratio, I’d say it’s worth the money.

I'm about to buy a Lenovo legion y530.
With a 1060 and a 6 core i7.

I'm sure I'm going to regret it later.

POO

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>>Awful Linux/Unix support
same ubuntu suspend and lock screen issues with every update
>>Trackpad is unusable in Linux, randomly stops and starts
yes gets stuck all the time, just isn't smooth. I think this is a linux issue
>>Shit gets wedged between the matte screen and borders
yes, its gross
>>Egregious backlight bleeding
don't know what that is, after googling it don't recall such a problem
>>Blown pixels after a year
not for me
>>Plastic on keyboard is so thin and cheap you can see the rubber dome through the backlight
>What are you even talking about?
don't know either, but then again i don't use backlight. Bottomlight is, the keyboard is ok
>>WiFi card needed to be replaced day one
no worked fine
>>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
yes disgusting and annoying, really hate this
>>Stupid webcam placement
yes, but I don't really use it
>>$1000 STARTING price
it has good specs, and it looks and feels nice

For me, the next investment will be a thinkpad, but mainly because I trust it more even though my trust stems from the ibm era

was meant for op

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>>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
Lose some weight, fatty

Have had the least of issues (if any) with an entry-level dell laptop, it even came with Ubuntu preinstalled, but replaced with gentoo.

You're just spoiled and shouldn't be around computers.

>ubuntu
I feel like this could be your problem.

well yes, but it was preinstalled, that's the saddest part

Downgrade your kernel or patch libinput. Anything 4.15 or lower should fix the trackpad bullshit. I submitted a patch but they refuse to merge it. Probably because of the swearing.

Reminder to report and not bump paid shill threads.

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I'm actually posting from one you cunt.

>Awful Linux/Unix support
I'm running Ubongo, not a single problem. You're lying.

>Trackpad is unusable in Linux, randomly stops and starts
No it doesn't, you're lying.

>Shit gets wedged between the matte screen and borders
No it doesn't, you're lying.

>Egregious backlight bleeding
Not on my unit.

>Blown pixels after a year
Not on my unit.

>Plastic on keyboard is so thin and cheap you can see the rubber dome through the backlight
The general feel of the keyboard is shit, but what you're describing is another thing you puilled out of your ass.

>WiFi card needed to be replaced day one
No it didn't, you're lying.

>Shitty rubber surface gets disgusting and ugly imprints from sweaty palms
Yes, you got one thing right.

>Stupid webcam placement
Who the fuck uses a webcam?

>$1000 STARTING price
Wow, things cost money. It's the same price as comparable ultrabooks.

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Fuck off moron.
Retards like you are why bait threads like these exist.

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I guess we should just let Appleshills run free. Kill yourself.

No, we should bump it from page 10 back to page 1 like you just did to keep it from dying so more people can see it and reply to it and bump it. Kill yourself moron.

Like this matters at all when everyone browses through the catalog, retard.

>it's better to keep an apple shill thread on the verge of being purged from page 10 alive than let it die cuz i need to release my autism rage on OP!
Kill yourself moron.

After you, faggot.

Thanks for letting Appleshills run free. Kill yourself.

>I get easily over 20 hours with the bridged battery
bull shit, unless you mean swapping in battery after battery after battery.

Thanks for letting Appleshills run free. Kill yourself.

Thanks for letting Appleshills run free. Kill yourself.

Thanks for letting Appleshills run free. Kill yourself.